only1swanny Posted January 5, 2012 Posted January 5, 2012 that interview is brilliant, shows her true colours.. (no pun intended) imo racism is any way that unessentially differentiates people due to race, prime example being "West Indian Mums will go to the wall for their kids",
Casino Posted January 6, 2012 Posted January 6, 2012 There's no way the lass is racist whys that? cos it wouldn't fit your lefty outlook?
Traf Posted January 6, 2012 Posted January 6, 2012 Because she's black and only white people can be racists.
bolty58 Posted January 6, 2012 Posted January 6, 2012 Because she's black and only white people can be racists.
frank_spencer Posted January 6, 2012 Posted January 6, 2012 Similar to Suarez, I doubt she's a racist but what she has said is. She should be punished accordingly. As an MP she should be bright enough to engage her brain before engaging her mouth (or in this case keyboard)
M G WHITES Posted January 6, 2012 Posted January 6, 2012 she is a despicable leftie hypocrite love this http://www.youtube.c...player_embedded Ha,fcuking dog
hillofdaub Posted January 6, 2012 Posted January 6, 2012 people are quick to condemn both her and suarez ,i can see for my own eyes what she has said , plus she has admitted it , what suarez has alledgedly said still has to be proved even tho he has been punished ,id say one of em is a racist but which ?
HomerJay Posted January 6, 2012 Posted January 6, 2012 he was found guilty in a court of law. rightly or wrongly, thats proof enough.
frank_spencer Posted January 6, 2012 Posted January 6, 2012 people are quick to condemn both her and suarez ,i can see for my own eyes what she has said , plus she has admitted it , what suarez has alledgedly said still has to be proved even tho he has been punished ,id say one of em is a racist but which ? Suarez has admitted it though. It's in the report.
hillofdaub Posted January 6, 2012 Posted January 6, 2012 he was found guilty in a court of law. rightly or wrongly, thats proof enough. i thought he was punished by the fa not a court of law ,
Ani Posted January 6, 2012 Posted January 6, 2012 Everyone No it doesn't, so everyone on here who defended Suarez should defend Abbott, what's the diference? Apart from her being black... oh.. I see.. whereas someone defending her but criticising suarez. whats the difference?
HomerJay Posted January 6, 2012 Posted January 6, 2012 Oh yea, that was terry Sorry I'm getting my racists mixed up
hillofdaub Posted January 6, 2012 Posted January 6, 2012 wrong and premature my friend. terry hasnt been found guilty either by a court of law .,,,,
chief wiggum Posted January 6, 2012 Posted January 6, 2012 whereas someone defending her but criticising suarez. whats the difference? I'm not defending either of them if that's what you mean Just pointing out that those that are defending Suarez's right to free speech should also be defending Abbotts, all I'm getting is tumbleweed...
pato Posted January 6, 2012 Posted January 6, 2012 (edited) Oh yea, that was terry Sorry I'm getting my racists mixed up I know they all look the same to me Edited January 6, 2012 by pato
Ani Posted January 6, 2012 Posted January 6, 2012 I'm not defending either of them if that's what you mean Just pointing out that those that are defending Suarez's right to free speech should also be defending Abbotts, all I'm getting is tumbleweed... No mate just saying there is a ying to your yang she is a politican posting something on a public form, he is a sportsman who said something that he would never have thought would get reported, if anything she is worse.
SatanGreavsie Posted January 6, 2012 Posted January 6, 2012 The problem is with the phrase "racist". To my mind that implies someone who has sat back, applied some thought to it and come to the decision that colour or lineage actually by definition defines a person. First off, that's quite different to "racist" language that can offend; but are we saying that mere utterance of something defines someone's true, thought through, opinion? Of course that mere utterance could be unacceptable - hence that highly paid pillock Suarez deserves all that comes to him. But that's light years away from defining his true character. Consider three people: Suarez, Mr. Muslimic Rayguns from the EDL and Diane Abbott. The first has said summat in the heat of the moment and has rightly been punished. Is he truly racist? Who knows, though as I say what he did deserves the punishment. Mr. Raygun - well the video suggests he's incapable of independent thought and so I think we can safely say he's not debated the issue with anyone, including his own brain. No consolation to some poor cunt on the wrong end of his rants mind you; but nevertheless its hard to glean the extent of his true feelings should they ever be teased out from his mangled mind. Abbott - smart woman who has every opportunity for analysis at her disposal, and yet has a career that hinges on playing a race card and who has on a number of occassions uttered statements that suggest her true feelings. If you want to label everyone who has ever uttered anything innappropriate a "racist" then so be it...that becomes our definition of the word. But if we're going to save that word for people with more carefully thought through, deeply held and researched beliefs, then out of the above 3 there's only one winner.
no balls Posted January 6, 2012 Posted January 6, 2012 Satan, have you ever thought of a career in education as that was a well worded post with great referencing and examples?
SatanGreavsie Posted January 6, 2012 Posted January 6, 2012 Satan, have you ever thought of a career in education as that was a well worded post with great referencing and examples? No, the money's shit
Sir_Francis Posted January 6, 2012 Posted January 6, 2012 The problem is with the phrase "racist". To my mind that implies someone who has sat back, applied some thought to it and come to the decision that colour or lineage actually by definition defines a person. First off, that's quite different to "racist" language that can offend; but are we saying that mere utterance of something defines someone's true, thought through, opinion? Of course that mere utterance could be unacceptable - hence that highly paid pillock Suarez deserves all that comes to him. But that's light years away from defining his true character. Consider three people: Suarez, Mr. Muslimic Rayguns from the EDL and Diane Abbott. The first has said summat in the heat of the moment and has rightly been punished. Is he truly racist? Who knows, though as I say what he did deserves the punishment. Mr. Raygun - well the video suggests he's incapable of independent thought and so I think we can safely say he's not debated the issue with anyone, including his own brain. No consolation to some poor cunt on the wrong end of his rants mind you; but nevertheless its hard to glean the extent of his true feelings should they ever be teased out from his mangled mind. Abbott - smart woman who has every opportunity for analysis at her disposal, and yet has a career that hinges on playing a race card and who has on a number of occassions uttered statements that suggest her true feelings. If you want to label everyone who has ever uttered anything innappropriate a "racist" then so be it...that becomes our definition of the word. But if we're going to save that word for people with more carefully thought through, deeply held and researched beliefs, then out of the above 3 there's only one winner. Can you put this post in picture form for the likes of people like me who struggle with long sentences ?
Sir_Francis Posted January 6, 2012 Posted January 6, 2012 One of the most pernicious trends at the moment is to take a word with strongly negative connotations Oh yeah, and can people please not use big words like this ? I sick of having to google 'em.
no balls Posted January 6, 2012 Posted January 6, 2012 Oh yeah, and can people please not use big words like this ? I sick of having to google 'em. Have you never seen Willie Wonka? It's a sort of Knid.
Sir_Francis Posted January 7, 2012 Posted January 7, 2012 Have you never seen Willie Wonka? It's a sort of Knid. Kids one or the adult one ?
bolty58 Posted January 7, 2012 Posted January 7, 2012 Have a +1 Satan. One day, common sense will win.
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