SpiritofBurnden Posted February 12, 2012 Posted February 12, 2012 no you plant pot, i was asking whether a game months ago was more relevant than a game only a week or so ago. Why? Have Wigan signed a whole new team since we last played them? Quote
frank_spencer Posted February 12, 2012 Posted February 12, 2012 Why? Have Wigan signed a whole new team since we last played them? no but a whole 5 months have passed and both us and wiggin have found new formations . ours was working for us but coyle decided to change it for a formation that had failed many times over. Quote
SpiritofBurnden Posted February 12, 2012 Posted February 12, 2012 It was working against teams who are going to take the game to us. I don't think it's unreasonable to expect us to take the game to Wigan. At home. It's about time the players took some responsibility for their performances instead of hiding behind the, 'I can only play if the team is set-up the way i like it', bullshit. The system shouldn't affect the way we defend a corner. Quote
no balls Posted February 12, 2012 Posted February 12, 2012 It was working against teams who are going to take the game to us. I don't think it's unreasonable to expect us to take the game to Wigan. At home. It's about time the players took some responsibility for their performances instead of hiding behind the, 'I can only play if the team is set-up the way i like it', bullshit. The system shouldn't affect the way we defend a corner. So why do we even have a manager then? Quote
Ani Posted February 12, 2012 Posted February 12, 2012 It was working against teams who are going to take the game to us. I don't think it's unreasonable to expect us to take the game to Wigan. At home. It's about time the players took some responsibility for their performances instead of hiding behind the, 'I can only play if the team is set-up the way i like it', bullshit. The system shouldn't affect the way we defend a corner. if we had played 4 5 1 yesterday we might not have lost. we did play 4 4 2 and not only got beat we were woeful, so 451 would have been no worse. This is with hindsight but I sent a text to chielf wiggum before kick off saying 'no muambe ffs' with the players we have 4 5 1 means we have ngog, petrov,eagles and Mavis going forward then NRC breaking to support. a few weeks ago we looked screwed, then played 451 for a few games and we were improving, to revert to 442 was a massive mistake. mavis has looked a threat in most of those games, yesterday he was a liability, NRC was a shadow of the player he was against arsenal, eagles and petrov got subbed, SKD was poor, ngog isolated. I am struggling for a player we have who is more suited to 442 than 451. understand if Fabrice was late OC might want to do something about it but given we do not have anyone at the club that can come in and do the same job dropping him is a joke. i would not be surprised if gartside was having a very serious chat with eddie this week, we are a long way from being down and with a manager using the players to their max we would not be in the mess we are now. i actually do not want coyle sacked i just him to be a better manager. Quote
birch-chorley Posted February 12, 2012 Posted February 12, 2012 It was working against teams who are going to take the game to us. I don't think it's unreasonable to expect us to take the game to Wigan. At home. It's about time the players took some responsibility for their performances instead of hiding behind the, 'I can only play if the team is set-up the way i like it', bullshit. The system shouldn't affect the way we defend a corner. I think you are being unreasonable now, everyone I was surrounded by could see that we where getting overun in the middle. Most where praying that we could limp to half time at nil a piece but the Wigan goal was coming. He went with 442 and it did not work, he could have changed it at any point but didnt and it cost us. Coyle bangs the "playing football the right way" drum to death but when we go 442 we just hump it long and get nothing out of it and OC looked like this was Plan A. He needs to hold his hands up for yesterday but Im sure he wont. Quote
SpiritofBurnden Posted February 12, 2012 Posted February 12, 2012 We were outplayed not overun. There's a big difference. Quote
frank_spencer Posted February 12, 2012 Posted February 12, 2012 We were outplayed not overun. There's a big difference. we were massively over run in midfield by their 5. the gap between our midfield and forwards had a wiggin player in it. the gap between our defence and midfield had a wiggin player in it. Quote
birch-chorley Posted February 12, 2012 Posted February 12, 2012 (edited) We were outplayed not overun. There's a big difference. OK we where outplayed in the middle of the park, its happened time and time again this season. Recently we have not been outplayed against much stronger teams / players when we play one striker and 3 in central midfield. Coyle decided to go back to 442 and it wasnt working, he should have swallowed his pride and changed the team after 20-30 minutes. He didnt and we lost. IMO he is either stubborn or stupid. Edited February 12, 2012 by birch-chorley Quote
mick Posted February 12, 2012 Posted February 12, 2012 anybody think gartside had an idea this was going to happen,and that was the reason in bringing sammy lee back to hold the reigns for a couple of games till we find the appropriate man for the job????????????? Quote
Butterfly Posted February 12, 2012 Posted February 12, 2012 anybody think gartside had an idea this was going to happen,and that was the reason in bringing sammy lee back to hold the reigns for a couple of games till we find the appropriate man for the job????????????? No, i don't think Phil Gartside would bring back a manager he sacked for being useless to be a manager again. Quote
mick Posted February 12, 2012 Posted February 12, 2012 ok.......who would be caretaker if coyle goes then?? Quote
anewman Posted February 12, 2012 Posted February 12, 2012 not too bad, theres only 14 knobheads up to now Quote
Butterfly Posted February 12, 2012 Posted February 12, 2012 ok.......who would be caretaker if coyle goes then?? Tony Kelly or David Lee for me if Owen was sacked but he won't be.The pressure will only start to mount next season if we aren't challenging for promotion Quote
frank_spencer Posted February 12, 2012 Posted February 12, 2012 ok.......who would be caretaker if coyle goes then?? Sandy or Jiminho? Davies? Quote
gonzo Posted February 12, 2012 Posted February 12, 2012 just had a text saying hes gone.... not sure who like.... Quote
mick Posted February 12, 2012 Posted February 12, 2012 reckon our next manager will be peter reid with sammy lee or phil brown as assistant Quote
DomRepWanderer Posted February 12, 2012 Posted February 12, 2012 reckon our next manager will be peter reid with sammy lee or phil brown as assistant Stop it, stop it now. Quote
superkev Posted February 12, 2012 Posted February 12, 2012 I think he's lost the players respect. No way back. He's definitely lost my respect after yesterday. I had a feeling he would go 442, but then to not do anything when it's was going tits up is criminal. Quote
no balls Posted February 12, 2012 Posted February 12, 2012 just had a text saying hes gone.... not sure who like.... Mc carthy apologised. In fact, every fucker's apologised today Quote
athywhite Posted February 12, 2012 Posted February 12, 2012 We were outplayed not overun. There's a big difference. outplayed and overun i thought Quote
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