Tsk tsk, such logical thinking won't go down well at all sir

 

Logical thinking usually only applies when there's truth.

 

"Spunking fortunes" on Baptiste and Tierney? Really?

 

The cost-cutting has been in place for a long time, which is why I never even believed for one second last summer that we were in for Jordan Rhodes...

because, even if he he felt he should've done better, doesn't for one minute mean davies/gartside expected him to

 

 

 

if you think anybody at the club is going to say 'reet lads, lets have all your season ticket money but we're not aiming to get promoted as  we're gonn a keep on cutting costs and if we end up in division 4, so be it'

 

expecting football managers to tell the truth when theres tickets to sell!!!!!!!!!

 

you'll be telling me you believe the sunday sport next

 

fwiw, i'd be happy with top 6 and see what happens

 

if we finish 10th and we're getting better, it wont be the end of the world

 

not for me, anyway

 

nor, i imagine, the powers that be

So if they actually say that the target is promotion, their real target will be top 10, just because you "imagine"?

 

Aye alreet Mrs F

 

Introducing reasons to back him if he fails again and we're still in May!

 

Menkul

So if they actually say that the target is promotion, their real target will be top 10, just because you "imagine"?

 

Aye alreet Mrs F

 

Introducing reasons to back him if he fails again and we're still in May!

 

Menkul

What would failure be in your eyes Jules? Missing promotion? Missing playoffs?

 

I think for me, finishing 14th again and only a handful appearances from players sub 22/23 would be failure. Improve league position and show that he can coach and improve the youngsters (even if we miss the playoffs) and I'd be more than happy for him to get a new contract

What would failure be in your eyes Jules? Missing promotion? Missing playoffs?

I think for me, finishing 14th again and only a handful appearances from players sub 22/23 would be failure. Improve league position and show that he can coach and improve the youngsters (even if we miss the playoffs) and I'd be more than happy for him to get a new contract

Primary target - promotion

 

Minimum target - top 6

Primary target - promotion

 

Minimum target - top 6

Fair enough. The position I don't want us to end up in is us changing a manager every couple of years because we haven't got promoted but appreciate everyone has different views

What would failure be in your eyes Jules? Missing promotion? Missing playoffs?

 

I think for me, finishing 14th again and only a handful appearances from players sub 22/23 would be failure. Improve league position and show that he can coach and improve the youngsters (even if we miss the playoffs) and I'd be more than happy for him to get a new contract

 

 

what i would say is that if he is doing a job the folk who matter are happy with, we should be talking contracts with him pretty soon

 

that would be an indication of the clubs ambitions/expectations

Fair enough. The position I don't want us to end up in is us changing a manager every couple of years because we haven't got promoted but appreciate everyone has different views

 

 

rodgers is the third longest serving manager in the prem at 3 years

 

no doubt freedman is top half dozen in this one

rodgers is the third longest serving manager in the prem at 3 years

 

no doubt freedman is top half dozen in this one

Maybe third longest, fourth if Orient or Rotherham come up

Fair enough. The position I don't want us to end up in is us changing a manager every couple of years because we haven't got promoted but appreciate everyone has different views

Neither do I but that's not a good reason to keep someone either if indications are that he won't improve us and turn us into a successful team at some point

 

Otherwise we are just keeping someone to buck the trend as we don't like it; that doesn't necessarily make it best for the club

Logical thinking usually only applies when there's truth.

 

"Spunking fortunes" on Baptiste and Tierney? Really?

 

The cost-cutting has been in place for a long time, which is why I never even believed for one second last summer that we were in for Jordan Rhodes...

But you believe you have a more cutting insight into a football match you haven't seen than someone who has? And for what it's worth only the most wildly optimistic thought Rhodes would be signing for us.

Rhodes was a made up internet rumour and people still use it against the club. Madness.

Rhodes was a made up internet rumour and people still use it against the club. Madness.

Nobody is using it against the club you dozy fucker....but people are using the rumour against the supporters that believed it

 

Because it's never DF's fault, but often ours

Lets be honest anybody who even thought signing Rhodes was a possibility was off their face 

Fair enough. The position I don't want us to end up in is us changing a manager every couple of years because we haven't got promoted but appreciate everyone has different views

We are a long way from promotion material at moment imo & I feel it's a big ask for next season, play off push & a feeling of good team spirit with a sprinkling of youth would do for me.

We are a long way from promotion material at moment imo & I feel it's a big ask for next season, play off push & a feeling of good team spirit with a sprinkling of youth would do for me.

Neither were Burnley and Derby in 2012/2013

 

This season was McClaren's first and Dyche's second....JSL

Edited May 14, 201412 yr by jules_darby

But you believe you have a more cutting insight into a football match you haven't seen than someone who has?

 

Nope.

 

Never said that.

 

Stop jumping on the "high five" bandwagon - they won't take you anyways.

Neither were Burnley and Derby in 2012/2013

 

This season was McClaren's first and Dyche's second....JSL

Fair enough & I hope that's us next season & I acknowledge the jury is still out on DF but McClaren is a proven manager & Dyche didn't inherit a squad infested with Billy big time idlers.

Nobody is using it against the club you dozy fucker....but people are using the rumour against the supporters that believed it

 

Because it's never DF's fault, but often ours

You are just an out n out DF hater though.

 

I personally would like us to finish a bit higher and have a team of good youngsters playing that we can sell for profit and begin a big part of attracting lads to the club with the hope they can go on to bigger n better things

Nope.

 

Never said that.

 

Stop jumping on the "high five" bandwagon - they won't take you anyways

The bandwagon that happens to dare to question you're wisdom?... sorry my arse is firmly ensconced on that one.

You are just an out n out DF hater though.

I personally would like us to finish a bit higher and have a team of good youngsters playing that we can sell for profit and begin a big part of attracting lads to the club with the hope they can go on to bigger n better things

That's the thing, I'm really not...I really, really wanted him to get it right

 

And I still do

 

But if he is to, he needs to learn hard and quickly from his mistakes.

 

I just get the gut feeling he's another arrogant, stubborn fucker that won't

 

He's done some good things but some of his decisions are completely inexplicable and I honestly feel without those we'd have pushed on last season; even with the nobheads in the squad etc

 

As I've said already I'm happy to see how the start of the season pans out under him, but I just get the feeling we're gonna have these ying and yang seasons all the time under him because I don't believe it's down to what people say are mitigating circumstances; I think that's just him

 

Happy to be prove wrong this season though

 

And...so far so good with pre-season and we are still in May, so it looks promising...

Burnley granted is an incredible achievement

 

McClaren is on record thanking Nigel Clough for building such a good team and blooding the youngsters, which took him a number of years

Burnley granted is an incredible achievement

McClaren is on record thanking Nigel Clough for building such a good team and blooding the youngsters, which took him a number of years

I know, it was a bit of a tongue in cheek comment

 

Do you reckon Derby would've gone up with Clough despite that work though? I don't....hence changing Manager is sometimes the right move

You are just an out n out DF hater though.

 

I personally would like us to finish a bit higher and have a team of good youngsters playing that we can sell for profit and begin a big part of attracting lads to the club with the hope they can go on to bigger n better things

From what I've read Jules is where most fans are with DF, no sane fan would want him to fail but he still has a lot to prove.

From what I've read Jules is where most fans are with DF, no sane fan would want him to fail but he still has a lot to prove.

Nah Jules is a boo boy

I know, it was a bit of a tongue in cheek comment

 

Do you reckon Derby would've gone up with Clough despite that work though? I don't....hence changing Manager is sometimes the right move

No, they might well not have done as well as they have, McClaren has probably taken them on to a new level, he is a top coach, QPR were flying early doors when he was there