Sounds a bit grim, 11 killed.

Anyone watch the White loud and proud on 4 the other night?

 

I advise you to watch it

 

Ignore the far right idiots that were on...but forward to the bit were you have choudry and his chums on outside the Finsbury park mosque....

 

And then come back to me and tell me we don't have a problem in this country....

 

And the police seem to be hell bent on protecting their human rights...

 

When all across Europe they are foiling or we are watching police being murdered at the hands of this scum...

Edited January 16, 201511 yr by Bobcat

Anyone watch the White loud and proud on 4 the other night?

 

I advise you to watch it

 

Ignore the far right idiots that were on...but forward to the bit were you have choudry and his chums on outside the Finsbury park mosque....

 

And then come back to me and tell me we don't have a problem in this country....

 

And the police seem to be hell bent on protecting their human rights...

 

When all across Europe they are foiling or we are watching police being murdered at the hands of this scum...

 

 

 

You and I see things similarly.

 

What, do you think, is the solution?

Solution....

 

I think the police and government need to start treating people like choudry and his ilk for what they are...arrest them for inciting acts of terrorism....don't give them any media coverage similar to what they did with the ira...

 

Deal with them as thatcher dealt with the ira

 

Deal with immigration...deport back to country of origin within 30 days all illegals...

 

Stop benefits and housing...to illegals

 

Put the onus back on the muslim community to tackle extremism from the inside...

 

Ban the burka...why can you walk in a bank with a burka on but not a motor cycle helmet...

 

Speak English

 

Abolish other languages in schools...

 

But this is a europen epidemic they want to take over Europe....

 

I can only see it ending in bloodshed unless the European community stand as one and deal with it head on as one.

 

The politicians need to stop running from the pc brigade who make a fortune from the racist card... This is Britain a Christian country...yes we are tolerant ...but it is Christian abide by our laws our rules , learn to do that then fine....

 

We need to start making their lives hard...monitor, police outside their house, follow them

 

If you want to kill us, impose sharia law, turn this country into a Islamic country then this isn't the place for you...

 

deport to a country of choice outside the western world who wants these people.

Edited January 16, 201511 yr by Bobcat

Anyone watch the White loud and proud on 4 the other night?

 

 

I saw the bit where they were more interested in rucking with the other right wing groups. Proper plantpots.

Not denying that...

 

But you've not answered my question

Which is?

Whatch the bit of the documentary with choudry and his chums outside Finsbury park mosque and tell me that we haven't got a problem

I thought they did a good job of winding them up, and acting up for the camera.

And then come back to me and tell me we don't have a problem in this country....

 

It'd be naive to think we don't

 

And I agree with some of your solutions as to dealing with the problem

 

But part of the solution for me is not to tar them all with the same brush as it'll cause more harm than good in the long run

 

An open mind is required as there is a big picture

 

Yet some will say thats living in fear with head in the sand, I think it's the opposite and quite ironic they'd say that as its how im viewing their stance

Whatch the bit of the documentary with choudry and his chums outside Finsbury park mosque and tell me that we haven't got a problem

You're right. We have got a problem. Outside Finsbury Park Mosque.

A lot of experts on what's happening in the future, 50 years/200 years etc. when we are all dead. It's the weakest of all arguments.

 

As predictable as the the call to allah on a Friday.

It'd be naive to think we don't

And I agree with some of your solutions as to dealing with the problem

But part of the solution for me is not to tar them all with the same brush as it'll cause more harm than good in the long run

An open mind is required as there is a big picture

Yet some will say thats living in fear with head in the sand, I think it's the opposite and quite ironic they'd say that as its how im viewing their stance

Why do you believe multiculturism has worked?

 

Until I see their community dealing with it....then they are all in it together

Solution....

 

I think the police and government need to start treating people like choudry and his ilk for what they are...arrest them for inciting acts of terrorism....don't give them any media coverage similar to what they did with the ira...

 

Deal with them as thatcher dealt with the ira

 

Deal with immigration...deport back to country of origin within 30 days all illegals...

 

Stop benefits and housing...to illegals

 

Put the onus back on the muslim community to tackle extremism from the inside...

 

Ban the burka...why can you walk in a bank with a burka on but not a motor cycle helmet...

 

Speak English

 

Abolish other languages in schools...

 

But this is a europen epidemic they want to take over Europe....

 

I can only see it ending in bloodshed unless the European community stand as one and deal with it head on as one.

 

The politicians need to stop running from the pc brigade who make a fortune from the racist card... This is Britain a Christian country...yes we are tolerant ...but it is Christian abide by our laws our rules , learn to do that then fine....

 

We need to start making their lives hard...monitor, police outside their house, follow them

 

If you want to kill us, impose sharia law, turn this country into a Islamic country then this isn't the place for you...

 

deport to a country of choice outside the western world who wants these people.

 

The voice of reason! 

 

Bobcat for pm.

You're right. We have got a problem. Outside Finsbury Park Mosque.

 

Until it touches someone you know personally i bet.

Until it touches someone you know personally i bet.

Absolutely - if it touches someone I know personally - I reserve the right to change my mind, although I'd like to think that even in that horrifying eventuality (and thank you for suggesting it), I'd be rational enough to see the bigger picture. But who knows - maybe I wouldn't be that dignified.

 

I do know somebody who has been touched by it personally and so do most people on here. Our regular poster Crawley had to go the funeral of a friend who was killed in the 7/7 attacks. Despite that - he's got the good sense not to have labelled all Muslims as scum and filth. You could learn from him.

Deal with them as thatcher dealt with the ira

 

Hold secret negotiations with them whilst publicly condemning them?

Hold secret negotiations with them whilst publicly condemning them?

It got us to peace in the end.

 

Terrorists will only stop when they are beaten or realise that that they will never win. We will not get to that scenario pussy footing around.

Absolutely - if it touches someone I know personally - I reserve the right to change my mind, although I'd like to think that even in that horrifying eventuality (and thank you for suggesting it), I'd be rational enough to see the bigger picture. But who knows - maybe I wouldn't be that dignified.

 

I do know somebody who has been touched by it personally and so do most people on here. Our regular poster Crawley had to go the funeral of a friend who was killed in the 7/7 attacks. Despite that - he's got the good sense not to have labelled all Muslims as scum and filth. You could learn from him.

 

I too have friends touched by troubles of the 60's to 90's. Some died. Do i hate the irish ..erm no. I don't label all muslims, however, i do label their FAITH as the source of all the issues we have. The ira were not trying to turn mainland britain into a catholic state.

 

So  i can learn nowt from Crawley other than how to give away our freedoms year by year, step by step in the interest of your multicult dogma.

Edited January 16, 201511 yr by bgoefc

It got us to peace in the end.

 

Terrorists will only stop when they are beaten or realise that that they will never win. We will not get to that scenario pussy footing around.

 

We negotiated with the IRA because neither side could win. Are you seriously suggesting we should employ the same tactics with fanatics who think they've won regardless of who dies?

I don't label all muslims, however, i do label their FAITH as the source of all the issues we have.

That's a devious way of labelling all Muslims whilst giving the appearance of not labelling all Muslims.

I too have friends touched by troubles of the 60's to 90's. Some died. Do i hate the irish ..erm no. I don't label all muslims, however, i do label their FAITH as the source of all the issues we have. The ira were not trying to turn mainland britain into a catholic state.

 

So i can learn nowt from Crawley other than how to give away our freedoms year by year, step by step in the interest of your multicult dogma.

Enlighten me. What freedoms have you lost since 7/7?

Enlighten me. What freedoms have you lost since 7/7?

Folk are saying there should be limits to freedom of speech following the Paris murders.

Folk are saying there should be limits to freedom of speech following the Paris murders.

Which folk?

Enlighten me. What freedoms have you lost since 7/7?

Well my wife now feels uncomfortable wearing a short skirt in asda since she was spat and hissed upon by a burkha clad threesome  backed by one of the perpetrators husband.

 

Whilst i as a male haven't lost any because I am 6' 1" and a seasoned terrace fucker, the pakistani females in this area cannot divorce their husbands without appearing before a Sharia court made up of imported imams from Saudi and the most enlightened 60+ males.

 

But thats somat you and your leftie brethren put down as acceptable cultural differences in the name of your ethos of  multiculturalism.

 

 

Need i continue?

The folk who say that because you took the piss out of a peadophile you deserved the response...

 

So don't do it....

 

Your not stupid so don't pretend you haven't seen those things in the media of late...

 

If that happens where will it end?

 

Our forefathers fought to protect our freedom to free speech ....