March 31, 201511 yr How did blackpool get promoted? Did the oystons ever back the club? Did they just drop lucky with holloway and his thrown together team then back him a bit once they smelt glory?? Genuinely I've no idea but thought they had successive promotions so can't have been all take take take? See the whole non-backing thing goes backs over 20 years mate. I remember demonstrations when I was a kid. They had marches down the prom and a couple of games they all legged it to the centre circle and staged a sit down protest. The Oystons have only ever spent money when they had to. The pressue was on to sort the ground out after the Taylor report to sort the ground out etc,and after the stands was condemned and deemed unsafe anyway they tore down the scratching sheds in 1999 and then the south stand in 2000. The scratching sheds have still never been rebuilt! They only put a roof on the temporary stand when they got in the prem. It was scaffold stand for a season before that! They built the south stand using Belekons money. On the pitch you could say they dropped lucky,but holloway built a team perfect for this division. A bit like Coyle did at Burnley. The last bit of the season was a like a cup run. Going at teams from the off with loads of pace and teams shit their pants. I couldn't believe my eyes when they twatted forest away in play offs to get to final. Then they beat a tired a Cardiff team who didnt turn up. Everything just clicked into place. Holloway found gems in Charlie Adam and Matt Phillips etc and the very same approach nearly kept em up. The Oystons spent the bare minimum they could to mount a challenge. The rest was done by Holloway and his ability in the transfer market. The stories of cost cutting and penny pinching go back decades. I witnessed it first hand when I worked there 15 years ago! Something's properly changed over the last 3 seasons though. This has gone from being tight to full on sabotage. Take a look on tangerine knights Facebook for some facts and figures. Truth is,without Belekons 10% there's been little/no investment from the owners whatsoever.
March 31, 201511 yr Charlie Adams was on Goals on Sunday and said something like you've just said Gonzo about the football side of it, basically "we shouldn't have gone up that season because the club just weren't ready for it but everything went our way and the clubs facilities haven't changed from when i was there and it's a real shame" Fuck um anyway Edited March 31, 201511 yr by mannyroad58
March 31, 201511 yr Did he not take them to court over some payment or went close too? As you say though fuck em
March 31, 201511 yr Aye he promised all players a bonus if the they got promoted then renaged on it when they did. He tried saying the agreement stipulated automatic promotion only! Haha Edited March 31, 201511 yr by gonzo
March 31, 201511 yr Fair comment I suppose but he's never done "better" since really Sometimes it just matches / clicks and for BFC and Holloway and BWFC and Allardyce this is how it appeared much to the surprise of the rest of the world FWIW I reckon Allardyce is a miles better Managwr than Holloway Don't think Holloway and Allardyce should be mentioned in the same breath in managerial ability terms.
March 31, 201511 yr Grayson got em out of league 1 right? I guess the oystons will just say we've proved you can go up the leagues without spending money - if u can get the right manager it's possible they could even take credit for it, there'll be plenty club owners think like that but who don't have the shite PR they do but as gonch says last 3 seasons it's gone to sabotage I ain't defending them
March 31, 201511 yr one problem is the football fans belief that owners are only allowed to lose money
March 31, 201511 yr one problem is the football fans belief that owners are only allowed to lose money Hmmm i'd say making some money would be more than allowed, i'd love it if we were profitable for ED. Making money whilst the business goes to shit in any industry is wrong surely?
March 31, 201511 yr well aye, its not black and white but theres plenty businesses been run for the benefit of the shareholders with no thought for the customers its just that football is very much in the public eye i dunno if its already been touched on, but were the oystons milking it before promotion?
March 31, 201511 yr well aye, its not black and white but theres plenty businesses been run for the benefit of the shareholders with no thought for the customers its just that football is very much in the public eye i dunno if its already been touched on, but were the oystons milking it before promotion? They've always been more inclined to take money out rather than put it in from what I can gather. Like I said previously,stories of their penny pinching ways have been bounded about for 20 years. From second hand footballs to the lucozade saga...it's always been hugely comical. When the Oystons bought the club they promised a new all seater stadium on Windyke farm near the motorway. Plans were passed and it was all going ahead till the Oystons backed out blaming increased costs. Like I said previously,if it wasnt for Belekons investment they would still be playing in Division 3 with a two sided ground. That's another bugbear of their fans. Belekon wanted more. He wanted to buy the club but the Oystons would only give 10%. It's where I generally do sympathise with Blackpool fans on this. They just want a normal club run normally. With getting to the big time they had a chance to catch a generation of fans just like we did in the 90's. Much to my annoyance the whole town was buzzing. But the Oystons have systematically destroyed that. They have been a laughing stock for as long as I can remember.
March 31, 201511 yr Don't think Holloway and Allardyce should be mentioned in the same breath in managerial ability terms.They weren't "in ability terms" They were in the fact that they both overdelivered against the expected and against the odds for Lancashire based, unfashionable, former giants of the game I'm sure you can see that reflects the notion mentioned of "right time, right place for the right Man" And I'm sure you also see that wasn't me stating they are of similar capability
March 31, 201511 yr They want to be grateful that Rodney Marsh isn't their chairman, he said today he would spend £100m on Harry Kane if he was the chairman of a football club. ???? Now that is pissing money away! He is decent but fuck me that's abit steep! Edited March 31, 201511 yr by dpr halliwell
March 31, 201511 yr They want to be grateful that Rodney Marsh isn't their chairman, he said today he would spend £100m on Harry Kane if he was the chairman of a football club. ???? Now that is pissing money away! He is decent but fuck me that's abit steep! I heard that We all know marsh is a cock though
March 31, 201511 yr They weren't "in ability terms" They were in the fact that they both overdelivered against the expected and against the odds for Lancashire based, unfashionable, former giants of the game I'm sure you can see that reflects the notion mentioned of "right time, right place for the right Man" And I'm sure you also see that wasn't me stating they are of similar capability Blackpool are as far away from Bolton as a club as holloway and Allardyce and are as managers.
March 31, 201511 yr Blackpool are as far away from Bolton as a club as holloway and Allardyce and are as managers.So you disagree with the qualities I've used that describe them both?
March 31, 201511 yr So you disagree with the qualities I've used that describe them both? Different levels of unfashionable they'd shown no sign of life for nearly 50 years in fact there was no pulse in the Blackpool corpse, we were already a bit of a yo yo team when Sam took over. It's a poor comparison you made.
March 31, 201511 yr Different levels of unfashionable they'd shown no sign of life for nearly 50 years in fact there was no pulse in the Blackpool corpse, we were already a bit of a yo yo team when Sam took over. It's a poor comparison you made.It's not, you are just very precious
March 31, 201511 yr It's not, you are just very precious Am I? Just thought it was a pretty shit comparison TBH.
March 31, 201511 yr Imagine if Vicky Oyston hadn't had fired Big Sam off for having the audacity to lose in the play off semi final?! How our paths could have changed. Edited March 31, 201511 yr by gonzo
March 31, 201511 yr Vicky Oyston? Why did Vicky Oyston do the hiring and firing? Where was the big cheese?
March 31, 201511 yr Vicky Oyston? Why did Vicky Oyston do the hiring and firing? Where was the big cheese? She was the Chairwoman whilst Owen was in the big house!
March 31, 201511 yr https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sam_Allardyce "Allardyce's spell at Bloomfield Road included his leading the club, in 1995–96, to their most successful season in years. Chairman Owen Oyston, while he was in a prison cell, sacked Allardyce"
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