What is that "mate" of mine Sadiq Khan trying to achieve ?

 

You lost you demented little cretin, get over it and concentrate on your job you terrorist sympathiser.

5 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

The fact is we’ve had better growth than everyone over the 12 months, yes, we are showing a decline but it’s hardly cataclysmic to all other G7 economies, the war is a major drag for all economies especially in Europe. 

If the government decide to go with increasing taxes then you have to expect a decline in growth, getting the balance right between growth and repayment of debt is the hard job. 
 

Not to worry though General Starmer no doubt has a plan. 

I hope he does, as the current General clearly doesn't 😉

4 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

The fact is we’ve had better growth than everyone over the 12 months, yes, we are showing a decline but it’s hardly cataclysmic to all other G7 economies, the war is a major drag for all economies especially in Europe. 

If the government decide to go with increasing taxes then you have to expect a decline in growth, getting the balance right between growth and repayment of debt is the hard job. 
 

Not to worry though General Starmer no doubt has a plan. 

1. So we are showing a decline? So those projections could be accurate?

2. Whether Starmer has a plan or not is quite frankly irrelevant. He won't be PM next year.

We really have to get away from justifying the Tories fucking stuff up by saying Labour could/would not any do better.
Watford have just had a shit season, but they're not justifying it by saying they did better than Norwich.

8 minutes ago, Traf said:

1. So we are showing a decline? So those projections could be accurate?

2. Whether Starmer has a plan or not is quite frankly irrelevant. He won't be PM next year.

We really have to get away from justifying the Tories fucking stuff up by saying Labour could/would not any do better.
Watford have just had a shit season, but they're not justifying it by saying they did better than Norwich.

I wasn’t justifying anything, my view is the hysteria being whipped up by Labour and their supporters suggest that we are performing much worse than other G7 members despite there being little or no evidence in the data.

If we get through to the next election with figures in line with other comparative nations, and with Johnson replaced then get set for another 5 years. 

3 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

I wasn’t justifying anything, my view is the hysteria being whipped up by Labour and their supporters suggest that we are performing much worse than other G7 members despite there being little or no evidence in the data.

If we get through to the next election with figures in line with other comparative nations, and with Johnson replaced then get set for another 5 years. 

You're own fucking link shows the evidence in the data.

21 minutes ago, Sweep said:

I hope he does, as the current General clearly doesn't 😉

The plan is higher taxes, whether that’s right or wrong, time will tell. In terms of what has been dealt with over Johnson’s tenure I’d give him a 7 out of 10. 

6 minutes ago, Cheese said:

You're own fucking link shows the evidence in the data.

You aren’t worth debating with, the last 12 months prior we had higher growth than everyone. Ill leave you to crack on spouting shit as per normal. 

3 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

You aren’t worth debating with, the last 12 months prior we had higher growth than everyone. Ill leave you to crack on spouting shit as per normal. 

Our growth over the last year is due to the fact we had dropped more than most others so the bounce back was greater. Anyone still giving Bozo credibility needs their head examining. 

22 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

The plan is higher taxes, whether that’s right or wrong, time will tell. In terms of what has been dealt with over Johnson’s tenure I’d give him a 7 out of 10. 

Labour's plan or Conservatives' plan?

14 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

You aren’t worth debating with, the last 12 months prior we had higher growth than everyone. Ill leave you to crack on spouting shit as per normal. 

But the last quarter?

6 minutes ago, Traf said:

Labour's plan or Conservatives' plan?

But the last quarter?

The last quarter has to be taken in full context that prior to that quarter we were largest growth, the planned higher taxes and rises in interest rates are designed to dull growth and inflation, don’t think Euro zone have increased rates. But you know all this. 

Edited June 9, 20224 yr by Mounts Kipper

You provided the link, mate. it shows the decline has started.
As for taxes, Labour are derided when they plan to increase them.

Just now, Traf said:

You provided the link, mate. it shows the decline has started.
As for taxes, Labour are derided when they plan to increase them.

The reduction in growth is a direct result of increasing tax take and attempt to reduce inflation and repair the balance sheet, that’s the plan.
 

Increasing taxes is unpopular whoever raises taxes, what you spend the taxes on is more important, Labour aren’t trusted by enough of the population to spend it wisely.

That’s a massive problem for the party and a hurdle for them to overcome, unfortunately they can’t prove fiscal responsibility when they are out of government. 

There’s a lot of holes in the roads

11 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

The reduction in growth is a direct result of increasing tax take and attempt to reduce inflation and repair the balance sheet, that’s the plan.
 

Increasing taxes is unpopular whoever raises taxes, what you spend the taxes on is more important, Labour aren’t trusted by enough of the population to spend it wisely.

That’s a massive problem for the party and a hurdle for them to overcome, unfortunately they can’t prove fiscal responsibility when they are out of government. 

OK, so the last time we had a Labour government, what did you think they spent unwisely.

Just interested.

1 minute ago, Not in Crawley said:

OK, so the last time we had a Labour government, what did you think they spent unwisely.

Just interested.

15 minutes ago, Not in Crawley said:

OK, so the last time we had a Labour government, what did you think they spent unwisely.

Just interested.

Not a clue cannot remember that far back.  

Government spending under Labour - Economics Help

 

If I am bored later then I will read this. On a quick scan the GDP to debt ratio we would kill for now, but we all know we have gone through the worst pandemic in living memory.   

32 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

we all know we have gone through the worst pandemic in living memory.   

True, but they spent a hell of a lot of money they didn't need to

48 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

Not a clue cannot remember that far back.  

https://www.taxresearch.org.uk/Blog/2021/06/24/the-tories-have-always-borrowed-more-than-labour-and-always-repaid-less-they-are-the-party-of-big-deficit-spending/

You can’t triple stamp a double stamp Lloyd

6 minutes ago, Traf said:

True, but they spent a hell of a lot of money they didn't need to

Agree, the PPE was a disgrace as was the track n trace, some would argue the Furlough was to generous and the payments to fraudulent businesses was also a giant cock up. I would like to see heads roll for the PPE contract cronyism, that needs addressing for now and in the future.

1 hour ago, Not in Crawley said:

OK, so the last time we had a Labour government, what did you think they spent unwisely.

Just interested.

They didn't divert enough of it into the back pockets of their mates and donors. Obviously.

Anyroad - housing benefit to buy houses? Are they smoking crack?

23 minutes ago, Cheese said:

https://www.taxresearch.org.uk/Blog/2021/06/24/the-tories-have-always-borrowed-more-than-labour-and-always-repaid-less-they-are-the-party-of-big-deficit-spending/

In a response to a question raised in the House of Commons, Labour's Shadow Chancellor John McDonnell stated with regard to Murphy "He is not the economic adviser and never has been, because we doubted his judgment, unfortunately. He is a tax accountant, not an adviser. He is actually excellent on tax evasion and tax avoidance, but he leaves a lot to be desired on macroeconomic policy".^[41]

4 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

In a response to a question raised in the House of Commons, Labour's Shadow Chancellor John McDonnell stated with regard to Murphy "He is not the economic adviser and never has been, because we doubted his judgment, unfortunately. He is a tax accountant, not an adviser. He is actually excellent on tax evasion and tax avoidance, but he leaves a lot to be desired on macroeconomic policy".^[41]

So you'll easily be able to refute the calculations then, based on John McDonnell's personal opinion?