3 minutes ago, mickbrown said:

She's already misled parliament.

all the qualifications necessary

3 minutes ago, mickbrown said:

She's already misled parliament.

Every single candidate is in some way besmirched by Johnson's incumbency, or their own questionable behaviour during it. Not that it matters to Conservatives and their core voters, but you'd think they'd try to distance themselves before going for the top job.

I notice Zahawi has said this morning that he's happy to publish all future tax returns if he becomes Prime Minister, but "I don't think being retrospective is right". Wonder why?

1 hour ago, Mounts Kipper said:

Starmer just made decent speech up North, Tories look like they are turning on each other, perhaps there is a glimmer of hope for Labour. 

"The arms race of fantasy economics is well under way... On taxes, the vast majority of them served in Boris Johnson's government. They went out every day for months and years to defend his behaviour, they backed everyone one of his 15 tax rises. But they're behaving as if they just arrived from the moon."

Can't argue with that...

Edited July 11, 20224 yr by Cheese
Was originally a double post, but I recycled it.

I think Tugendhat and Hunt can probably distance themselves from Johnson.

But I doubt either of them have a chance of winning.

3 minutes ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

I think Tugendhat and Hunt can probably distance themselves from Johnson.

But I doubt either of them have a chance of winning.

Tugendhat in 3rd place at the moment based on declared support. Chris Green is one of his supporters.

It's not a very exciting line up

I'm firmly in the anyone but Truss camp

The Johnson cabal needed removing. Chopping off the head is a start, but a lot of the body is still twitching.

Mourdant seems the best of the bunch. 

Yes, they've all suddenly started acting like the last few years never happened, but that's politics and you'd get that from all corners of the House.

It won't be Johnson. That's a good start.

Being anti-Tory for the sake of it and claiming they're all shit is actually a bit hack.

14 hours ago, Cheese said:

Penny Mordaunt's Leadership Campaign video is basically this:

 

 

We know that conflict will always perish in the brotherhood of flags

Got to laugh

Whoever it is, they MUST get rid of Rees Mogg to be taken seriously. The bloke is just a class fucking clown whose jokes and novelty value are well past their sell by date.

13 minutes ago, Spider said:

Being anti-Tory for the sake of it and claiming they're all shit is actually a bit hack.

What about if youre not anti-tory and claim theyre all shit

Like i say, ive an issue with rwanda and also with mcveigh

Who do i support?

17 minutes ago, BobyBrno said:

Tugendhat in 3rd place at the moment based on declared support. Chris Green is one of his supporters.

I just can't see the Tory membership voting for him.

Mordaunt is the one I think is most likely.

14 minutes ago, Spider said:

Whoever it is, they MUST get rid of Rees Mogg to be taken seriously. The bloke is just a class fucking clown whose jokes and novelty value are well past their sell by date.

Telegrap suggesting he might run. the utter cock

3 minutes ago, Casino said:

What about if youre not anti-tory and claim theyre all shit

Like i say, ive an issue with rwanda and also with mcveigh

Who do i support?

Like I say, it's a "pick your favourite fiery death" situation.

Fortunately, or unfortunately, the public get to sit this one out.

They'll all have their faults, we know that. But there won't be a sea change. 

I've just seen the Telegraph tweet that Mogg is considering a bash at it now, on a "Continuity Boris" platform.

Impossible though it seems, he would be a backward step. Imagine it, fuckinghell.

A step in the right direction, no matter how small, is better than alternatives such as that lanky fucking dementor.

1 hour ago, Cheese said:

"The arms race of fantasy economics is well under way... On taxes, the vast majority of them served in Boris Johnson's government. They went out every day for months and years to defend his behaviour, they backed everyone one of his 15 tax rises. But they're behaving as if they just arrived from the moon."

Can't argue with that...

I suppose they could all say they’ve changed their minds. Like Starmer on Brexit.

5 minutes ago, BobyBrno said:

I suppose they could all say they’ve changed their minds. Like Truss on Brexit.

?

seriously, to get the thick old racist vote, he has to say that  

Changing your mind on Brexit isn't for the faint-hearted, let me tell you.

Takes real guts.

It's not for everyone.

2 minutes ago, Casino said:

seriously, to say anything to get a vote, he has to say that  

?

Levelling up in terms of transport and infrastructure seems to stop at Kings Cross. 
 

last few days been so easy to get round on albeit limited sample, getting north just seems hard work. 

2 minutes ago, BobyBrno said:

?

hes saying we need to make it work, same as you

or have you changed your mind

Am I missing something on all these pledges from the contenders, surely they’ve got to run on the manifesto from the last election. 

3 minutes ago, BobyBrno said:

I suppose they could all say they’ve changed their minds. Like Starmer on Brexit.

Starmer hasn't "changed his mind" on Brexit. He freely admits that he'd vote Remain if there was another Referendum tomorrow. He's just accepted that we've left, and we aren't rejoining any time soon. I disagree with certain aspects of his stance massively, but I understand why he has to take that route. That's politics.

2 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

Am I missing something on all these pledges from the contenders, surely they’ve got to run on the manifesto from the last election. 

the manifesto from before covid?

that manifesto?

2 minutes ago, Cheese said:

Starmer hasn't "changed his mind" on Brexit. He freely admits that he'd vote Remain if there was another Referendum tomorrow. He's just accepted that we've left, and we aren't rejoining any time soon. I disagree with certain aspects of his stance massively, but I understand why he has to take that route. That's politics.

has he been specifically challenged on customs union

ie has he left it open that we can start being sensible

1 minute ago, Casino said:

the manifesto from before covid?

that manifesto?

Yes that manifesto…. If they want to make major deviations and I understand it if they do then call an election and put it in front of the electorate.