Politics

[royal white]

1 minute ago, Cheese said:

Then you'll have heard him say "If anyone says that politics can't make a difference, that all parties are the same, then look at what we have achieved together since 1997..."

On right because Gordon (seen by many as the worst ever PM) said it then it’s true. Gotcha 👍

[Spider]

3 minutes ago, royal white said:

1) Boris - Truss what’s happened? 
 

2) I’m a visionary as you know 

1) You seem to be assuming that everyone thought things would dramatically improve. I doubt very much anyone did. But if your house is on fire, it needs putting out, you do that first then assess the damage. What you won’t expect is your house to look better than it did before the fire. Unless you live in backwards world.

2) that’s going well. 😉

[BobyBrno]

The economy seemed to be in a bit of a mess when Brown and Labour left office.

[royal white]

2 minutes ago, Spider said:

1) You seem to be assuming that everyone thought things would dramatically improve. I doubt very much anyone did. But if your house is on fire, it needs putting out, you do that first then assess the damage. What you won’t expect is your house to look better than it did before the fire. Unless you live in backwards world.

2) that’s going well. 😉

Aghhh so you will agree then that Liz Truss needs more time? 

[Spider]

Just now, royal white said:

Aghhh so you will agree then that Liz Truss needs more time? 

About 3 days should be enough

[royal white]

Just now, BobyBrno said:

The economy seemed to be in a bit of a mess when Brown and Labour left office.

12 months after that rousing speech he was gone! 

[royal white]

Just now, Spider said:

About 3 days should be enough

😂👍

[Spider]

Just now, BobyBrno said:

The economy seemed to be in a bit of a mess when Brown and Labour left office.

That was because of a shitty opposition who just stood by and let it happen.

And the lefties. They'll have been involved too. And the gays. Blacks.

[BobyBrno]

Just now, royal white said:

12 months after that rousing speech he was gone! 

Blamed it on the global economy but we have to ignore the global economy now.

[Farrelli]

8 minutes ago, BobyBrno said:

The economy seemed to be in a bit of a mess when Brown and Labour left office.

Brown was ten times the chancellor of any we have had since, not a good choice for PM though. However there was a small matter of a global financial crash in 2008 which was handled considerably better than austerity, brexit and covid have been by the present shower.

Edited October 19, 2022 by Farrelli

[Cheese]

15 minutes ago, royal white said:

On right because Gordon (seen by many as the worst ever PM) said it then it’s true. Gotcha 👍

Which of those achievements he listed was he lying about?

[Farrelli]

1 minute ago, Cheese said:

Which of those achievements he listed was he lying about?

You are trying to reason with a numpty.

[Cheese]

Just now, Farrelli said:

You are trying to reason with a numpty.

I know. 🤦‍♂️

[BobyBrno]

6 minutes ago, Farrelli said:

Brown was ten times the chancellor of any we have had since, not a good choice for PM though. However there was a small matter of a global financial crash in 2008 which was handled considerably better than austerity, brexit and covid have been by the present shower.

So can we mention the current global financial crisis that has a very large affect on where we are now with our own economy?

[BobyBrno]

11 minutes ago, Farrelli said:

Brown was ten times the chancellor of any we have had since, not a good choice for PM though. However there was a small matter of a global financial crash in 2008 which was handled considerably better than austerity, brexit and covid have been by the present shower.

Yeh right.

https://amp.theguardian.com/business/2007/apr/02/politics.money

[royal white]

5 minutes ago, Farrelli said:

You are trying to reason with a numpty.

Here’s the lapdog 😂🤡

[royal white]

7 minutes ago, Cheese said:

Which of those achievements he listed was he lying about?

Can you point me to where I said there were any lies? 

[Not in Crawley]

11 minutes ago, Cheese said:

Which of those achievements he listed was he lying about?

Since when was Gordon Brown our 'worst ever PM'? Funny old world some folk live in.

 

 

[Cheese]

4 minutes ago, royal white said:

Can you point me to where I said there were any lies? 

You insinuated it when you said "Oh right because Gordon said it then it’s true. Gotcha 👍"

Never mind.

[royal white]

Just now, Cheese said:

You insinuated it when you said "Oh right because Gordon said it then it’s true. Gotcha 👍"

Never mind.

Gordon, who’s known for lying (Google is your friend). I wonder why they were out of power 12 months later after such a great term and speech 🤷🏻‍♂️

[Not in Crawley]

13 minutes ago, Farrelli said:

You are trying to reason with a numpty.

Personally I don't think RW is a numpty, he's a bit of a WUM, doesn't like the left much and enjoys anything (himself included) that winds them (whoever the 'other' that day are - protesters, actors, people in unapproved jackets) up and everything is through that prism.

He's not going to change his mind, so you are right about it being a pointless discussion to have with him however.

[Cheese]

1 minute ago, royal white said:

Gordon, who’s known for lying (Google is your friend). I wonder why they were out of power 12 months later after such a great term and speech 🤷🏻‍♂️

So which achievement in that speech (most of which happened before he was PM) was a lie?

[royal white]

5 minutes ago, Not in Crawley said:

Since when was Gordon Brown our 'worst ever PM'? Funny old world some folk live in.

 

 

“Seen by many” wasn’t it one of his own party who also said it? 

Immigration has gone up which is creating friction within communities. The country is getting bigger and messier. “The role of ministers has gone bureaucratic and the action of ministers has gone downhill – it is corrupt. “The loss of social values is the basic problem and this is not what the Labour Party is about. “I believe Gordon Brown has been the worst Prime Minister we have had in this country. “It is a disgrace and he owes an apology to the people and the Queen.”

[Not in Crawley]

Just now, royal white said:

“Seen by many” wasn’t it one of his own party who also said it? 

Immigration has gone up which is creating friction within communities. The country is getting bigger and messier. “The role of ministers has gone bureaucratic and the action of ministers has gone downhill – it is corrupt. “The loss of social values is the basic problem and this is not what the Labour Party is about. “I believe Gordon Brown has been the worst Prime Minister we have had in this country. “It is a disgrace and he owes an apology to the people and the Queen.”

Eee, that's a big font. Must be an important bit of copy and paste.

[royal white]

2 minutes ago, Cheese said:

So which achievement in that speech (most of which happened before he was PM) was a lie?

Can you tell me what waiting times he was referring too?