Politics

[gonzo]

2 hours ago, Mounts Kipper said:

More jobs available for UK workers is a Brexit positive. 

....theres a reason those jobs were vacant in the first place

 

[Spider]

Hunt did ok.

We should be grateful that we’ve at least moved on from Billy fucking Bumblecunt and his waffle

[BobyBrno]

11 minutes ago, Not in Crawley said:

The public won't stand for deeper cuts - which is why you are hearing the phrase 'compassionate conservatism' being dusted off from the back of the wardrobe.

Auterity wasn't right first time round, its been a proven failure which has lead to a lot of the position we are in now. It won't work now.

If you are impressed with a man who can stand up and talk without burbling or being more wooden than a coffin, again it shows how far we have fallen.

I know I bring some personal feelings towards why Hunt isn't the man to save this country or his own party even with the BSkyB scandal aside, but then I'm sure many Drs and Nurses do as well.

I said he gave a good performance. I never said he was the messiah!

[Not in Crawley]

Just now, RoadRunnerFan said:

Crawley what's your/your wife's beef with Hunt at DCMS? 

I thought he was okay in health, obviously funding was an issue but that's primarily at the door of Osborne. 

Its my ex wife's and he was just utterly useless and also had no interest in the brief at all apart from trying to claim all the glory for the Olympics which had fuck all to do with him. And the scandal around BSkyB pissed eveyone off. 

You also had a raft of very decent people in post before him who in different ways did a very good job - Chris Smith (who really was excellent) Tessa Jowell, James Purnell, Andy Burnham, Ben Bradshaw

He was one of the key movers in austerity - and he's aiming to go down this path again - he's even using the same language all over today's annoucements. It's like the ghost of the Cameron government has been reanimated to give the party some cover.

[Not in Crawley]

3 minutes ago, BobyBrno said:

I said he gave a good performance. I never said he was the messiah!

I would just hope forming basic sentences is a baseline for our elected representatives.

Although, given the last 12 months, you're right - it's not a given.

[Nowack]

1 minute ago, Not in Crawley said:

Cameron government has been reanimated to give the party some cover.

To be fair he did "win" them two elections so you can see the appreal.

[RoadRunnerFan]

Fair enough, but all the names you mentioned as better were Labour.  Hunt having influence is one of the less worse options with the current shade of government. 

DCMS ended up with Dorries ffs. 

[leigh white]

[Not in Crawley]

4 minutes ago, RoadRunnerFan said:

Fair enough, but all the names you mentioned as better were Labour.  Hunt having influence is one of the less worse options with the current shade of government. 

DCMS ended up with Dorries ffs. 

That's because generally they were better, all party bias aside - one of the main reasons is that Conservatives have in the past use it to attack the BBC or some other made up demon, use it to help their mates (see Hunt) or don't want the post in the first place as they have to do things that generally conservatives don't like - ie spending money on arts, under funded sports that aren't rugby and the like so it's only seen as a stepping stone to elsewhere rather than a brief they really want.

[Not in Crawley]

10 minutes ago, Nowack said:

To be fair he did "win" them two elections so you can see the appreal.

Yeah totaly, but running backwards isn't the sign of a functioning government. On top of the fact those leavers who have taken over the party can't stand the (please forgive me) Cameroons.

[Nowack]

On 16/10/2022 at 10:49, Cheese said:

Ouch.

 

Wonder what Peter has to say about the coterie of Hedge Fund Managers brought in to help Hunt out.

[kent_white]

9 hours ago, Not in Crawley said:

And if you can be bothered to look at the caveats to the data; https://www.ons.gov.uk/economy/nationalaccounts/balanceofpayments/articles/impactoftradeingoodsdatacollectionchangesonuktradestatistics/2021to2022

Caution should be taken when interpreting these data as HM Revenue and Customs changed the collection methods for EU trade from January 2022.

It's also largely down to gas exports to EU partners because of the Ukraine crisis. 

[bolty58]

14 hours ago, Sweep said:

Just for @bolty58 🙂

..bugger, just checked, it was actually last Thursday

Your timing was out but the sentiment appreciated. What a woman.

[bolty58]

13 hours ago, Sweep said:

I wonder if even @bolty58is a bit embarrassed by what's happening to the Tory Party at the minute. 

I think the best thing they can do now, is call a GE, and take their medicine. My worry is that the longer they hold on, the worse it gets, and I want them to get back to being the Party that they're supposed to be.

Embarrassed? Nay lad - way too long in the tooth not to have witnessed similar machinations before. It will all blow over soon - my guess being that Truss will go (it should have been Mordaunt and Sunak in the run off in the first place and everyone knows it) and the blues will claw back enough credibility over the remainder of their term to minimise their inevitable loss to Mr. Beige and his cronies and then return to government to properly right the ship.

Hopefully Mordaunt gets the call. 

[bolty58]

12 hours ago, Mounts Kipper said:

You do know our current trade with EU is at its highest levels ever.

There you go again with facts. Tsk!

[bolty58]

12 hours ago, jmjhb said:

 

 

 

Ho hum. Not interested matey. Bojo got in with a record and look what happened to him. Plenty of time to adjust and regain credibility before the inevitable election loss. It just needs to be as small as possible then the UK is not blighted with red politics for more than the absolute minimum.

[MickyD]

How do they calculate how many points Labour are ahead? If it’s by asking folk who they’d currently vote for in a GE then it’s a little bit flawed in that the GE isn’t currently upon us. Besides, if asked, I’d probably not even tell them the truth.

I wonder if the current levels of disdain in both camps may mean a surge in popularity for the minor parties.

[Mounts Kipper]

2 minutes ago, MickyD said:

How do they calculate how many points Labour are ahead? If it’s by asking folk who they’d currently vote for in a GE then it’s a little bit flawed in that the GE isn’t currently upon us. Besides, if asked, I’d probably not even tell them the truth.

I wonder if the current levels of disdain in both camps may mean a surge in popularity for the minor parties.

The raving monster loony party look a good bet after Truss & KK. 🤣

[royal white]

16 minutes ago, MickyD said:

How do they calculate how many points Labour are ahead? If it’s by asking folk who they’d currently vote for in a GE then it’s a little bit flawed in that the GE isn’t currently upon us. Besides, if asked, I’d probably not even tell them the truth.

I wonder if the current levels of disdain in both camps may mean a surge in popularity for the minor parties.

Fingers crossed Nigel Farage will have another go.

 

[Spider]

27 minutes ago, royal white said:

Fingers crossed Nigel Farage will have another go.

 

Hope so

He'll split the Tory vote nicely and then neither of them will have a sniff.

 

[Morizio]

The Reform Party are already attracting some of the very right Tory supporters. 
 

https://www.reformparty.uk/

[BobyBrno]

Farage  has been very critical of the Tories recently. Apart from this. 😊

 

[Mounts Kipper]

56 minutes ago, BobyBrno said:

Farage  has been very critical of the Tories recently. Apart from this. 😊

 

I think Nigel needs to retire and enjoy the rest of his life… his life work is done. 

[Sweep]

1 hour ago, royal white said:

Fingers crossed Nigel Farage will have another go.

 

Without a doubt he will, and no doubt it will be another unsuccessful attempt to become an MP  - he's done what he wanted/needed to do, I don't think there's much of a platform for him these days (unless the Brexit he's got, isn't the Brexit that he wants)

[Sweep]

1 hour ago, Morizio said:

The Reform Party are already attracting some of the very right Tory supporters. 
 

https://www.reformparty.uk/

That's a cracking website, especially the "latest news" section...