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Politics

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7 minutes ago, gonzo said:

Folk putting England flags in cars makes no difference either but it adds to a collective support.

It generates a subconscious narrative.

You not do media studies at skoo big lad?

Theyre telling you what to do. Does your St George cross in you car say “support England” 

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10 minutes ago, mickbrown said:

The ones round my way aren’t telling me to vote for anybody. 
 

They’re telling me who they are voting for. 

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None of these by you then? 

 

 

Just now, royal white said:

Have you ever seen someone wearing a top with a quote saying “support Bolton” on it. 

I thought not 

No. But I've certainly never seen a sign encouraging me to do something, then immediately thought about beastiality.

34 minutes ago, Ani said:

On the advertising discussions, there is plenty of evidence that shows repeating a messages makes it effective. Driving past the same billboard on your way to work will gradually grind you down . Does anyone remember Gouranga appearing on motorway bridges at one time , not advertising but shows how repetition works.

There were some figures knocking about earlier this week that showed Reform are miles ahead of other parties on social media impressions which although easier to manipulate might show like the Brexit referendum they might do better than folk expect. A cynic might ask how a party last week could not bet their own candidates is doing this without external help. (And a real cynic blame the Russians) 

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7 minutes ago, royal white said:

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None of these by you then? 

What do you think political campaigns are actually for? Do you think they're entirely pointless? Try to stop thinking about people shagging cats for a minute.

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1 minute ago, Cheese said:

What do you think politcal campaigns are actually for? Do you think they're entirely pointless? Try to stop thinking about people shagging cats for a minute.

So by your own admission a sign in someone’s garden is unlikely going to make a neighbour vote for said party. So what’s the point of it then? 

Just now, royal white said:

So by your own admission a sign in someone’s garden is unlikely going to make a neighbour vote for said party. So what’s the point of it then? 

It might do that, it might not. But they spend the money to do it for some reason, so I'm guessing it has some sort of effect. 🤷‍♂️

1 minute ago, Cheese said:

It might do that, it might not. But they spend the money to do it for some reason, so I'm guessing it has some sort of effect. 🤷‍♂️

Like you said you doubt it would make anyone vote for them. I’m not to sure what kind of effect a £10 sign or a 4p a4 poster will have. 

14 minutes ago, royal white said:

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None of these by you then? 

 

 

Is that a photo you took yourself today or an old one found via Google? 

None of the labour ones round here look that 

Seem to recall they had them years ago 

1 minute ago, DirtySanchez said:

Is that a photo you took yourself today or an old one found via Google? 

None of the labour ones round here look that 

Seem to recall they had them years ago 

Obviously a Google one 

I think we'd probably be surprised by how passive many voters are

There will be a lot of people out there intending to vote for a party but who aren't hugely politically engaged and probably do need a gentle nudge to actually get out and vote

But also, in my area there are numerous signs for the Labour Party but practically none at all for the Tories, and, to be fair, it does help create the impression that a) they've got their shit together, and b) actually give a fuck

There's no doubt some psychological term for it

Just now, royal white said:

Obviously a Google one 

So not relevant to the current election and posters and signs being put up 

13 minutes ago, royal white said:

So by your own admission a sign in someone’s garden is unlikely going to make a neighbour vote for said party. So what’s the point of it then? 

A sign in someone's window or garden would never influence me how to vote, but I'm pretty sure they've been around for a long, long time.

Have you only just noticed them?

There aren't that many that I've seen- fewer than there used to be.

Some for both, and for Reform.

So few overall though, it means naff all.

Just now, DirtySanchez said:

So not relevant to the current election and posters and signs being put up 

Well yes they are because the ones I’ve seen say “vote…….” Hence my post 

1 minute ago, DazBob said:

A sign in someone's window or garden would never influence me how to vote, but I'm pretty sure they've been around for a long, long time.

Have you only just noticed them?

No 

1 minute ago, DirtySanchez said:

So not relevant to the current election and posters and signs being put up 

Why not?

It's only an example.

It would be a bit odd him going round taking pictures of folks' signs!

Almost as weird as putting the sign up itself.

10 minutes ago, royal white said:

Like you said you doubt it would make anyone vote for them. I’m not to sure what kind of effect a £10 sign or a 4p a4 poster will have. 

Neither am I, but it must work, or they wouldn't do it.

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Just now, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Why not?

It's only an example.

It would be a bit odd him going round taking pictures of folks' signs!

Almost as weird as putting the sign up itself.

It's an old pic and whatever folk want to put up on their property is up to them

There's a lot of them near me and none of them look like that, has the candidate name on but doesn't say 'vote labour' 

I'll have to make sure our cat doesn't go anywhere near their properties though 

3 minutes ago, Cheese said:

Neither am I, but it must work, or they wouldn't do it.

Just passed a green sign in Bury, using this logic they will win…..or they wouldn’t do it. Get a bet on babybell

5 minutes ago, DirtySanchez said:

It's an old pic and whatever folk want to put up on their property is up to them

There's a lot of them near me and none of them look like that, has the candidate name on but doesn't say 'vote labour' 

I'll have to make sure our cat doesn't go anywhere near their properties though 

Surely it says vote and the name? Be a bit weird having a sign up saying someone’s name

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This has just reminded me

Did anyone else used to have some cat botherer with a megaphone driving round their local area on election day playing "Glory, glory, vote for Labour"?

4 minutes ago, royal white said:

Just passed a green sign in Bury, using this logic they will win…..or they wouldn’t do it. Get a bet on babybell

Not really

If it raises their presence in the area compared to the previous election then it's worked 

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