13 minutes ago, BobyBrno said:

We’ve now reached a point where people who are voting for ‘b’ because they can’t be worse than ‘a’ are calling people who are voting for ‘c’ thickos. 🤷‍♂️
 

Look out for those reform voters wearing a ‘d’ on their caps

12 minutes ago, only1swanny said:

Seeing the nature of the issue that drives people towards these "right leaning" parties.

There's a culture of anything that goes against the left being gaslit and being told they are "thick", "Racist" or "bigots". People have had enough. 

It's happening with the media, politics, sport etc. Take Doctor who or Star wars for example, which have been critisised heavily recently for a lack of quality. The producers have simply tried to blame everyone else. If you don't like it, it's because your (insert slur here). 

Most aren't like the guy in the video, he's clearly an extreme example, but does typify some people in the party, but when level headed people are turning to them, people have to wonder why. 

People are voting for Reform because the latest episodes of Doctor Who and Star Wars are lacking in quality?! Hahahahahahaha 😂

12 minutes ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

There will be many who, as polling day draws closer, realise Reform will win a large number of votes but not seats, and that only a vote for the Tories will reduce/mitigate the size of the Labour Party majority 

The Daily Mail is leading that just that sentiment on their front page tomorrow, and we can probably expect the publishing of more polls to help push that narrative

Maybe. I think there is probably 10% of the electorate voting for reform and won’t vote for anyone else. That leaves the Tories 4 or 5% to try and squeeze back.

8 minutes ago, Cheese said:

People are voting for Reform because the latest episodes of Doctor Who and Star Wars are lacking in quality?! Hahahahahahaha 😂

clearly not what I said, and proving my point exactly, 

28 minutes ago, only1swanny said:

Seeing the nature of the issue that drives people towards these "right leaning" parties.

There's a culture of anything that goes against the left being gaslit and being told they are "thick", "Racist" or "bigots". People have had enough. 

It's happening with the media, politics, sport etc. Take Doctor who or Star wars for example, which have been critisised heavily recently for a lack of quality. The producers have simply tried to blame everyone else. If you don't like it, it's because your (insert slur here). 

Most aren't like the guy in the video, he's clearly an extreme example, but does typify some people in the party, but when level headed people are turning to them, people have to wonder why. 

Level headed?

Debatable 

8 minutes ago, bwfcfan5 said:

Maybe. I think there is probably 10% of the electorate voting for reform and won’t vote for anyone else. That leaves the Tories 4 or 5% to try and squeeze back.

One interesting thing about the polls currently is that they tend to vary - from one polling company to another - quite significantly (either by the size of the winning majority, the number of seats Reform might win, the main opposition party, etc.)

Beyond the Labour Party winning a majority, everything else seems to quite fluid

Most of us will know polls can be manipulating and are often used to influence a particular political aim, rather than paint an accurate picture of the reality on the ground, but I don't recall things being as up in the air previously and I wonder if on polling day the electorate might return a result that is really quite weird

1 hour ago, royal white said:

You could afford one in 12 months if you put your monthly remaining pennies aside. Let me know what size you want and I’ll put one aside for you. 

I'm very happy without overpriced, not very nice outerwear thank you very much.

3 minutes ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

One interesting thing about the polls currently is that they tend to vary - from one polling company to another - quite significantly (either by the size of the winning majority, the number of seats Reform might win, the main opposition party, etc.)

Beyond the Labour Party winning a majority, everything else seems to quite fluid

Most of us will know polls can be manipulating and are often used to influence a particular political aim, rather than paint an accurate picture of the reality on the ground, but I don't recall things being as up in the air previously and I wonder if on polling day the electorate might return a result that is really quite weird

I'm not at all convinced Labour are going to get a straight-forward majority.

40 minutes ago, only1swanny said:

Seeing the nature of the issue that drives people towards these "right leaning" parties.

There's a culture of anything that goes against the left being gaslit and being told they are "thick", "Racist" or "bigots". People have had enough. 

It's happening with the media, politics, sport etc. Take Doctor who or Star wars for example, which have been critisised heavily recently for a lack of quality. The producers have simply tried to blame everyone else. If you don't like it, it's because your (insert slur here). 

Most aren't like the guy in the video, he's clearly an extreme example, but does typify some people in the party, but when level headed people are turning to them, people have to wonder why. 

Like ThickBrown, I'm a bit amazed you were ever a teacher.

1 hour ago, royal white said:

You could afford one in 12 months if you put your monthly remaining pennies aside. Let me know what size you want and I’ll put one aside for you. 

I could buy one now, but I'd really rather not look like a cat fetishist. I've heard it might be a bit of a marker. 

48 minutes ago, only1swanny said:

Seeing the nature of the issue that drives people towards these "right leaning" parties.

There's a culture of anything that goes against the left being gaslit and being told they are "thick", "Racist" or "bigots". People have had enough. 

It's happening with the media, politics, sport etc. Take Doctor who or Star wars for example, which have been critisised heavily recently for a lack of quality. The producers have simply tried to blame everyone else. If you don't like it, it's because your (insert slur here). 

Most aren't like the guy in the video, he's clearly an extreme example, but does typify some people in the party, but when level headed people are turning to them, people have to wonder why. 

Anything that is said against the right is dismissed as 'woke' , or they are called 'remoaners' etc etc 

No idea what the Stars Wars reference is. 
 

Level headed people have every right to look outside the main two parties, and other level headed people have every right to question their choice, the name calling is in no way restricted to one side. 

12 minutes ago, Cheese said:

I'm not at all convinced Labour are going to get a straight-forward majority.

I'm certainly sceptical of some of the polls predicting enormous majorities

42 minutes ago, BobyBrno said:

We’ve now reached a point where people who are voting for ‘b’ because they can’t be worse than ‘a’ are calling people who are voting for ‘c’ thickos. 🤷‍♂️
 

I’ve been boundary changed to Central Manc now. I would have voted ‘b’ because I knew them. I’ll vote ‘c’ now because that’s my natural inclination and I know fuck all about ‘b’. I’ll happily wear the thick cunt badge in the worst election in my time on this earth 

Note: My a,b and c may differ from yours

37 minutes ago, only1swanny said:

clearly not what I said, and proving my point exactly, 

Just a weird/humorous/random thing to bring up. "The people who make Star Wars and Doctor Who have gone woke, so I'm voting for the racists!"

Edited June 27, 20242 yr by Cheese

9 minutes ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

I'm certainly sceptical of some of the polls predicting enormous majorities

They won't, it's another marketing job from central office. Let's look at it, the only people talking about a 'super majority' are the Conservatives. And I agree, it's a great line, it means 'we'll lose, but we won because it wasn't a super majority'

It's clever and good but it's still a survival line, and lord knows the Conservatives know how to survive.

 

I've always imagined that if you got close to Nigel Farage that he'd smell like a busted old pub sofa from before the smoking ban. 

Not unpleasant in it's own unique way but I wouldn't want it in the house. 

I'm not sure if this adds anything to the debate but I thought it was important enough to point it out. 

Just now, kent_white said:

I've always imagined that if you got close to Nigel Farage that he'd smell like a busted old pub sofa from before the smoking ban. 

Not unpleasant in it's own unique way but I wouldn't want it in the house. 

I'm not sure if this adds anything to the debate but I thought it was important enough to point it out. 

Saw him a couple of times in his local in Down Village.

He pretends like a country lord when he is a full on Londoner - couldn't give a shit outside zone 4

12 minutes ago, Not in Crawley said:

They won't, it's another marketing job from central office. Let's look at it, the only people talking about a 'super majority' are the Conservatives. And I agree, it's a great line, it means 'we'll lose, but we won because it wasn't a super majority'

It's clever and good but it's still a survival line, and lord knows the Conservatives know how to survive.

 

Indeed

Only one more week of this nonsense 

10 minutes ago, jmjhb said:

Only one more week of this nonsense 

I hate break it to you, but the nonsense will never end.

3 hours ago, Duck Egg said:

Love a bit of gammon for Sunday lunch.

Careful now. Using the G word upsets a few on here.

5 hours ago, jmjhb said:

Only one more week of this nonsense 

It won’t stop

all piss in the same pot end of the day, promises they can’t keep, bit of scandal repeat. Politics is bent but folk get so wound up on it 

8 hours ago, Casino said:

A master politician who has failed 7 times to get elected

Truly Churchillian

Getting boring batting this back and forwards over the net with you. Let's wait until the 5th July eh and discuss it then. What was it you were predicting for Reform? One seat and 3m votes if I remember rightly?

8 hours ago, royal white said:

Thing is, as you well know, there will be folk cleverer than you will ever be voting for these and conservative, but according to you they’re “thickos” you really do outdo yourself at times. 

He's just a bitter remoaner using the 'owd, thick racists' jibe again. It's all they've got.

8 hours ago, Casino said:

Dear me

Once again, he didnt say eveybody who votes Reform is a thicko, or even a racist. But racist thickos do love Reform

Another old fucking chestnut. Just replace the word 'Reform' with 'Brexit' (yawn) and it's just more recycled dogshit spouted by the same disgruntled EU lickspittles.