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Plymouth Argyle FA Cup 1st Round

4 wins on the bounce!

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17 minutes ago, Escobarp said:

Thanks for the answer. I can see what you mean but as casino points out and biggish and you as well it doesn’t seem to me you be, outside of family’s due to costs, a valid reason and is an excuse basically. 
 

I got my first season ticket in 88 for the Burnden terrace and my mates who I went with also. First seated season ticket for me was at the Reebok when we moved 

My first season ticket was late sixties as a teenager - main reason me and my mates got them was you got quite a few games free in Enbankment/MRN paddock

1 minute ago, Escobarp said:

Cheers 

every year apart from the first year I started going I had one. It was the done thing and cheaper. 

never stopped me attending a cup game or used it as an excuse for not going. 

for me the fa cup is the fa cup always was and always will be special. Season ticket culture or not 

I have chosen to miss early round cup games, but it was mainly down to money or simply cant be arsed watching us play low league shite

I genuinely looked forward to last Saturday's game

Just now, Casino said:

And initially it was to secure our own seat

Then when I was getting older, cos it saved me a fair bit

season we started with Wimbledon, I had one that was 48 quid

It was 3 quid a match on the day

For perspective it was a fiver on the coach to Bristol rovers

I drove to that Wimbledon game  passed my test on the Thursday bought my car Friday drove to selhurst park on the Saturday. Not relevant I know!

incant remember the costs of season tickets  I know that as a kid it wasn’t much and even in latter years a burden it wasn’t that much I don’t think  used to use my paper round money to pay for my season ticket 

 

Just now, Escobarp said:

Cheers 

every year apart from the first year I started going I had one. It was the done thing and cheaper. 

never stopped me attending a cup game or used it as an excuse for not going. 

for me the fa cup is the fa cup always was and always will be special. Season ticket culture or not 

Aye, but the crowds say it’s definitely not the same for everyone. We were getting 8-10k for Cup games and league gates of 25-27k when we had a squad capable of winning it. 

1 minute ago, Casino said:

I have chosen to miss early round cup games, but it was mainly down to money or simply cant be arsed watching us play low league shite

I genuinely looked forward to last Saturday's game

The money aspect is a valid reason 

watching football isn’t cheap especially with kids to feed and entertain. 
 

having a season ticket so you then miss cup games just doesn’t sit right with me but maybe it’s just me getting old and cantankerous 

I don't need an excuse to not go to any game!

2 minutes ago, Escobarp said:

The money aspect is a valid reason 

watching football isn’t cheap especially with kids to feed and entertain. 
 

having a season ticket so you then miss cup games just doesn’t sit right with me but maybe it’s just me getting old and cantankerous 

Is it a free world?

1 minute ago, boltondiver said:

Is it a free world?

Absolutely. And nobody needs a reason to do or not do anything. That isn’t my point. 

in fact your comment helps my point.  If you don’t want to go? Don’t go. No reason needed. No season ticket culture or anything required. 

1 minute ago, Escobarp said:

Absolutely. And nobody needs a reason to do or not do anything. That isn’t my point. 

in fact your comment helps my point.  If you don’t want to go? Don’t go. No reason needed. No season ticket culture or anything required. 

Cool!

Got my first season ticket in the late eighties prior to that it was pay on the day because a ST was too much up front given mortgage three kids etc .In early eighties if we had two consecutive home games I had to miss one as my budget was so shite.Usually I dropped the wrong game as well.

Point is it was'nt a desire not to go just basic economics.

1 hour ago, Leyther_Matt said:

Fastest finger first 😀

Great minds!  And us.

1 hour ago, Casino said:

And initially it was to secure our own seat

Then when I was getting older, cos it saved me a fair bit

season we started with Wimbledon, I had one that was 48 quid

It was 3 quid a match on the day

For perspective it was a fiver on the coach to Bristol rovers

I remember paying a fiver to go to Oxford on the coach on Good Friday that season.  Going off topic but it was memorable because we had 2 games in 2 days, I'm fairly sure that's not happened since.  Imagine going to Oxford, losing 5-0 and then getting up the next day to go to a home game, full of enthusiasm.  We beat Wigan 1-0 (Chandler).

To clarify, the 83-84 season we started with Wimbledon, less than 4k on.  The other time we played Wimbledon was our first in Prem at Selhurst Park; we took more there than we had for the 83 home game.

2 hours ago, Escobarp said:

So it’s an excuse for some folk. Thanks for clarifying

 

season tickets really aren’t a recent occurance. I and many on here will be able to assure you of that fact   They are I agree more Prevalent for the reasons outlined though. 
 

but having a season ticket should in no way deter someone from goin to a cup game. It’s utter nonsense unless they cannot afford it which is different 

I think its fair to point out that not all season ticket holders are big fans, as daft as that sounds.  Many families and friends get S/Ts together as a sociable thing to do together, and they are relatively cheap because kids tickets are so much more affordable than they used to be.  Some people get brought along, but they just wouldn't go to the trouble without the influence of the main BW fan in their group.  I'm one of those people, out of 5 of us literally nobody else goes if I cant make it (1 also has a S/T at Athy Colls). The club has benefitted massively from the seats/season ticket culture and the pay off is that cup crowds suffer.  Same for every medium to big sized club.

14 minutes ago, Johnnyrotten said:

To clarify, the 83-84 season we started with Wimbledon, less than 4k on.  The other time we played Wimbledon was our first in Prem at Selhurst Park; we took more there than we had for the 83 home game.

Aye, it was the 83-4 one I was on about

3 quid pay on day and in effect, 7 games free with a st

9 minutes ago, Johnnyrotten said:

I think its fair to point out that not all season ticket holders are big fans, as daft as that sounds.  Many families and friends get S/Ts together as a sociable thing to do together, and they are relatively cheap because kids tickets are so much more affordable than they used to be.  Some people get brought along, but they just wouldn't go to the trouble without the influence of the main BW fan in their group.  I'm one of those people, out of 5 of us literally nobody else goes if I cant make it (1 also has a S/T at Athy Colls). The club has benefitted massively from the seats/season ticket culture and the pay off is that cup crowds suffer.  Same for every medium to big sized club.

Fair points. I used to go with my mates not family. All my family are DMB/massives so never really thought of it as a social family get together 

 

and my apologies re wrong Wimbledon game. I was only a very young lad at that point so before my time 

50 minutes ago, Johnnyrotten said:

I remember paying a fiver to go to Oxford on the coach on Good Friday that season.  Going off topic but it was memorable because we had 2 games in 2 days, I'm fairly sure that's not happened since.  Imagine going to Oxford, losing 5-0 and then getting up the next day to go to a home game, full of enthusiasm.  We beat Wigan 1-0 (Chandler).

Beating Wigan away 1-0, following day beating Oxford 1-0 at home, then losing away 0-5 to Sheff Utd four days later, 3 games in six days.:)

9 hours ago, Johnnyrotten said:

I remember paying a fiver to go to Oxford on the coach on Good Friday that season. 

That’s good value, even if it goes to Oxford City by mistake.

9 hours ago, Johnnyrotten said:

I remember paying a fiver to go to Oxford on the coach on Good Friday that season.  Going off topic but it was memorable because we had 2 games in 2 days, I'm fairly sure that's not happened since.  Imagine going to Oxford, losing 5-0 and then getting up the next day to go to a home game, full of enthusiasm.  We beat Wigan 1-0 (Chandler).

It was worse than that.  We lost to Wigan the following day. 0-1 ex Shaker Steve Johnson (?), big black lad, scored for them.  The Chandler win was the following season 

Great spot, got my seasons mixed up. Lost next game at home to Bournemouth as well in front of 3,500 ish.

16 hours ago, leigh white said:

Beating Wigan away 1-0, following day beating Oxford 1-0 at home, then losing away 0-5 to Sheff Utd four days later, 3 games in six days.:)

That was a great Christmas, definitely the only time in my lifetime i will see us win twice in the league in 24 hours. 

1 hour ago, Johnnyrotten said:

That was a great Christmas, definitely the only time in my lifetime i will see us win twice in the league in 24 hours. 

You and me both!

Our first ever game v Wigan. An 11am kick off and as would always happen at Springfield park, we pretty much took over the ground. They missed a penalty before Jeff Chandler nodded in the winner.

Chandler scored the winner again the following day in front of our biggest crowd of the season (11000 iirc) & we were up into 4th position.

I went to the new years Eve collapse at Sheff Utd. Could have been even worse if Farnworth hadn't saved two penalties 

I dont remember the pen at Wigan, but I remember leaving home at 9.30 spending ages scraping ice off the car window; the pitch looked dangerous to play on.  I had to persuade my older brother, who had given up going years earlier, to come to the game with me so that he could drive me there, my only means of travel on a boxing day morning.  All pay on the day as well in them days, huge queues to get in.

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