This was from 5 days ago, but another example of the genocidal fascists in Israel’s cabinet (this time our old friend Ben Gvir again, the ultra far-right national security minister).

I think we’re down to just one person on here who will be clapping and nodding at this.

PS - even violated X rules - that takes some doing these days 🙄

Edited June 24Jun 24 by Bertie

On 23/06/2026 at 14:42, Bertie said:

Awful, but then again confirms what the world could see was happening in full view.

Of course the IDF-supporting ostriches won’t care and will probably say it’s ok as it’s killed a whole bunch of future terrorists or something like that.

I would prefer the phrase "it's created a whole new bunch of future terrorists"

1 minute ago, Dimron said:

I would prefer the phrase "it's created a whole new bunch of future terrorists"

Yep. And given the message to any tin pot dictators that if you want to wipe out a population to achieve your strategic goals, that's fine

31 minutes ago, Dimron said:

I would prefer the phrase "it's created a whole new bunch of future terrorists"

Probably somewhere in the middle

10 minutes ago, royal white said:

Probably somewhere in the middle

That 10 year old boy who's seen his family blown to bits is never going to accept Israel

2 minutes ago, Dimron said:

That 10 year old boy who's seen his family blown to bits is never going to accept Israel

You could say that about any nationality in similar conflicts, fortunately folk move on.

Edited June 24Jun 24 by royal white

3 hours ago, royal white said:

You could say that about any nationality in similar conflicts, fortunately folk move on.

I can't recall any "similar" conflicts... other than the genocide in Rwanda

4 minutes ago, Dimron said:

I can't recall any "similar" conflicts... other than the genocide in Rwanda

Syria

Just now, Dimron said:

I can't recall any "similar" conflicts... other than the genocide in Rwanda

Syria maybe. Or the DRC some years ago?

Just been reading that 92 of the housing stick in Gaza was destroyed. So we can argue about whether it constitutes genocide - but it's certainly a crime against humanity.

Also remember when people on here were claiming that the birth rate was going up in Gaza and therefore it couldn't possibly be a genocide? There was actually a 42% decrease in birthrates during 2024.

https://www.justsecurity.org/95985/icc-gaza-warrant-charges/

7 minutes ago, Dimron said:

I can't recall any "similar" conflicts... other than the genocide in Rwanda

Pretty much every conflict in living memory is a case of one side against another, the 10 year old boy who has seen his family member killed by an Israeli will hold the same anger a young proddy would do in Northern Ireland towards Catholics, or a young kid in Afghan or Iraq towards Brits and yanks the list and comparisons are endless.

We did this to Caen to "liberate" the population.

What is the Israeli reasoning?

9 minutes ago, royal white said:

Pretty much every conflict in living memory is a case of one side against another, the 10 year old boy who has seen his family member killed by an Israeli will hold the same anger a young proddy would do in Northern Ireland towards Catholics, or a young kid in Afghan or Iraq towards Brits and yanks the list and comparisons are endless.

Take your point about the young Irish lad. But it's a question of scale too.

11 minutes ago, kent_white said:

Take your point about the young Irish lad. But it's a question of scale too.

Do you not remember when we levelled 80% of Northern Ireland and killed most of their kids?

The example Dimron gave was how he thinks a child would react to seeing their parents killed. Nothing to do with buildings. let’s all hope That not every child will become a terrorist.

Just now, royal white said:

The example Dimron gave was how he thinks a child would react to seeing their parents killed. Nothing to do with buildings. let’s all hope That not every child will become a terrorist.

Come on. You're a military man. You know the connection between buildings being destroyed and casualties.

92% of the children killed in Gaza were killed as part of incidents involving destruction of a residential building.

1 minute ago, kent_white said:

Come on. You're a military man. You know the connection between buildings being destroyed and casualties.

92% of the children killed in Gaza were killed as part of incidents involving destruction of a residential building.

So do you not think kids seeing parents being blown to bits in Iraq, Afghan etc will have the same anger? Are they likely to be terrorists or is there a threshold of buildings that need to be destroyed before they flip and become a terrorist?

49 minutes ago, Cheese said:

Do you not remember when we levelled 80% of Northern Ireland and killed most of their kids?

Aye

Whataboutery of the century award goes to .,..

10 minutes ago, royal white said:

So do you not think kids seeing parents being blown to bits in Iraq, Afghan etc will have the same anger? Are they likely to be terrorists or is there a threshold of buildings that need to be destroyed before they flip and become a terrorist?

Yes. Which is why I was against those wars too.

Just now, kent_white said:

Yes. Which is why I was against those wars too.

So we have a lot of potential child terrorists in those 3 countries. I expect you’ll be shouting the loudest to prevent them coming here when they’re looking for refuge. We will all be in agreement that we don’t want terrorists, especially those that hate Brits over here

12 minutes ago, royal white said:

Are they likely to be terrorists or is there a threshold of buildings that need to be destroyed before they flip and become a terrorist?

Do you think it's likely that the number of civilian casualties was directly proportional to the number of residential buildings destroyed?

10 minutes ago, London Wanderer said:

Aye

Whataboutery of the century award goes to .,..

It’s a comparison, I know you being a teacher and all that you think there’s only one answer and that you’re right. It’s quite clear on here that you’re not. If you think a child in Israel is going to be more pissed off and react any differently to the death of their parents then any other kid in a war zone then you’re massively wrong.

Edited June 25Jun 25 by royal white

3 minutes ago, royal white said:

So we have a lot of potential child terrorists in those 3 countries. I expect you’ll be shouting the loudest to prevent them coming here when they’re looking for refuge. We will all be in agreement that we don’t want terrorists, especially those that hate Brits over here

No - because I think we have a moral obligation to offer sanctuary to people fleeing war - particularly people who have been displaced because of wars that we have instigated. On e they're here, then I expect our security forces to keep us safe, and. Which they do remarkably well for the most part.

2 minutes ago, kent_white said:

Do you think it's likely that the number of civilian casualties was directly proportional to the number of residential buildings destroyed?

That’s a different conversation to what I was having with Dimron.

Just now, royal white said:

It’s a comparison, I know you being a teacher and all that you think there’s only one answer and that you’re right. It’s quite clear on here that you’re not. If you think a child in Israel is going to be more pissed off and ract any differently to the death of their parents then any other kid in a war zone then you’re massively wrong.

Literally nobody has said this. You've just made it up in your own head and are now arguing with yourself.

Edited June 24Jun 24 by kent_white

Just now, kent_white said:

No - because I think we have a moral obligation to offer sanctuary to people fleeing war - particularly people who have been displaced because of wars that we have instigated. On e they're here, then I expect our security forces to keep us safe, and. Which they do remarkably well for the most part.

So you’ve agreed they’re likely to be terrorists, hate Brits and Israelis and that’s you’re happy to welcome them here. Jesus wept.