Is it kicking off big time or is this just everyday stuff they deal with or a bit of both?

 

1 hour ago, London Wanderer said:

I don't think you see the Troubles as the same as the genocide in Gaza. I'm talking about your constant deflections since the start of this conflict. These things happen in wars.... Whatabout Iraq, Afghanistan.... but there's aid getting in... whatabout this hotdog cafe...

As I've said repeatedly , it all looks a bit daft in the face of the evidence we're seeing of it being genocide. Anyone deflecting from it and defending Israel now just looks daft. Seems you're doubling down further instead of just condoning it.

Your deflections have been exceptional.

Now you're saying folk have to donate £1000 or they don't care 🤣😂 The best of the lot that corker lad.

Judging by your logic you'll have to donate a grand to a victims charity every time you post a story about a crime in the UK.

You fucking loon 🤣

So I was having a chat on here with 2 others about how kids will react and you’ve decided to come on and bring up what I’ve mentioned in the past (pretty sure that’s whataboutery) whilst pulling me for the same thing. You did accuse me of comparing genocide with Northern Ireland and have spent 4 days saying you didn’t when it’s there in black and white

As for the bet and logic, you’re not quite following are you, I offered you the bet because you keep doubling down on your lies. No one as far as I’m aware is lying about UK crime?

You’ve tried to make a point to try and look smart but you’ve failed massively, you’ve doubled down on lies on a debate that you have no involvement with. It’s weird but expected.

And I know “you’ve read the report” 🙄 there’s dozens of reports out there some saying genocide others saying there’s not, I don’t give a shit what the outcome is but let the courts decide hey like they’re meant to. There’s a good lad

Carry on

Edited June 30Jun 30 by royal white

2 hours ago, royal white said:

So I was having a chat on here with 2 others about how kids will react and you’ve decided to come on and bring up what I’ve mentioned in the past (pretty sure that’s whataboutery) whilst pulling me for the same thing. You did accuse me of comparing genocide with Northern Ireland and have spent 4 days saying you didn’t when it’s there in black and white

As for the bet and logic, you’re not quite following are you, I offered you the bet because you keep doubling down on your lies. No one as far as I’m aware is lying about UK crime?

You’ve tried to make a point to try and look smart but you’ve failed massively, you’ve doubled down on lies on a debate that you have no involvement with. It’s weird but expected.

And I know “you’ve read the report” 🙄 there’s dozens of reports out there some saying genocide others saying there’s not, I don’t give a shit what the outcome is but let the courts decide hey like they’re meant to. There’s a good lad

Carry on

Fuck me that's one hell of a ramble. Always enjoy a RW classic "summary" of what happened. You're taking this place way to seriously fella 😂

Not quite whataboutery is it... you've made the deflections on this thread.

Aye right it was only about me - "Obviously you don’t want to donate to the kids, must just be a bit of faux outrage to pass time on here." Nice try 😄

Surely it's time to call it a day on yet another childish back and forth? 4 days as you say.

Edited June 30Jun 30 by London Wanderer

58 minutes ago, London Wanderer said:

Fuck me that's one hell of a ramble. Always enjoy a RW classic "summary" of what happened. You're taking this place way to seriously fella 😂

Not quite whataboutery is it... you've made the deflections on this thread.

Aye right it was only about me - "Obviously you don’t want to donate to the kids, must just be a bit of faux outrage to pass time on here." Nice try 😄

Surely it's time to call it a day on yet another childish back and forth? 4 days as you say.

Let’s go back to the beginning. You said I compared genocide to Northern Ireland, did I or didn’t I, it’s black and white, yes or no, then we can leave it.

Here’s what you said incase you forgot.

Aye comparing Israel's genocide with the troubles in Northern Ireland 🤣

What an embarrassing attempt at Whataboutery. Anything but criticise Israel eh. 

Edited June 30Jun 30 by royal white

you two need to meet up, have a game of padel, and then a good hard bum. This flirting with each other is becoming embarrassing 😉

2 minutes ago, Sweep said:

you two need to meet up, have a game of padel, and then a good hard bum. This flirting with each other is becoming embarrassing 😉

There will be a grand bet on the outcome of padel offered though

4 minutes ago, Sweep said:

you two need to meet up, have a game of padel, and then a good hard bum. This flirting with each other is becoming embarrassing 😉

And who would be the bummer and the bummee?

Edited June 30Jun 30 by DirtySanchez

1 hour ago, royal white said:

Let’s go back to the beginning.

Let’s not go back to the beginning for fucks sake 😂😂

Even I can recognise that it’s time to move on here. We’ve both had a mare 😉

41 minutes ago, Sweep said:

you two need to meet up, have a game of padel, and then a good hard bum. This flirting with each other is becoming embarrassing 😉

His lies are embarrassing and I’d bum him at Padel

38 minutes ago, DirtySanchez said:

There will be a grand bet on the outcome of padel offered though

We’d need an umpire for the padel & the bumming

I’d suggest Cheese but not sure he’d be impartial - too much history with Royal

There’s Gonzo , but he might try get in on the second part

Probably Kent would be the most reliable

3 minutes ago, London Wanderer said:

We’d need an umpire for the padel & the bumming

I’d suggest Cheese but not sure he’d be impartial - too much history with Royal

There’s Gonzo , but he might try get in on the second part

Probably Kent would be the most reliable

I'm not sure @kent_white has the adequate experience required to umpire the padel part

@L/H White is probably most versed on here with regards to both bumming and padel, he's your man to officiate.

It'd certainly be a fine spectacle, and I'd love to watch (not the padel part though, I'm not a pervert)

36 minutes ago, royal white said:

His lies

😂

Stumbled across this today, I know it's two years old but it reminded me very much of what was happening on this thread (and since) at that time.

(Let's not focus on Linaker, the message is in his words not his persona).

In Lineker's case, he was literally sharing pro-Hamas and antisemitic content

Unwittingly, but pro-Hamas and antisemitic nonetheless

6 hours ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

In Lineker's case, he was literally sharing pro-Hamas and antisemitic content

Unwittingly, but pro-Hamas and antisemitic nonetheless

I see you completely ignored my only disclaimer...

7 hours ago, Sluffy said:

(Let's not focus on Linaker, the message is in his words not his persona).

4 minutes ago, Sluffy said:

I see you completely ignored my only disclaimer...

I saw your disclaimer but felt it was important to point out that he wasn't simply being accused of antisemitism for criticising Isreal like he's trying to imply, mostly because a lot of people are unaware and it grates with me that he still goes on as if he was done a great injustice

11 minutes ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

I saw your disclaimer but felt it was important to point out that he wasn't simply being accused of antisemitism for criticising Isreal like he's trying to imply, mostly because a lot of people are unaware and it grates with me that he still goes on as if he was done a great injustice

I was trying to separate the words from the person speaking them.

It is the message that counts not the messenger.

Just now, Sluffy said:

I was trying to separate the words from the person speaking them.

It is the message that counts not the messenger.

No, I'm aware

I'm still not going to pass up the opportunity to point out than in this particular instance, it's bollocks

1 hour ago, Sluffy said:

I see you completely ignored my only disclaimer...

Maybe you could have used somebody that hasn’t tweeted pro terrorist tweets in the past? There must be 1000s tweeting similar? ………or is it just GL

Just now, royal white said:

Maybe you could have used somebody that hasn’t tweeted pro terrorist tweets in the past? There must be 1000s tweeting similar? ………or is it just GL

I posted what popped up on my feed.

I knew Lineker was toxic, that's why I specifically said ignore the messenger and listen to the message.

It really isn't that difficult to do.

I've fully explained myself.

I'll not be answering anymore of your questions.

Enjoy the rest of your evening.

59 minutes ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

No, I'm aware

I'm still not going to pass up the opportunity to point out than in this particular instance, it's bollocks

So the words are bollocks just because Lineker said them?

Would they still be bollocks if the Pope had said them?

If not then the words stand whoever says them, do they not?

28 minutes ago, Sluffy said:

So the words are bollocks just because Lineker said them?

Would they still be bollocks if the Pope had said them?

If not then the words stand whoever says them, do they not?

They don't stand as applied to him

1 hour ago, Sluffy said:

I posted what popped up on my feed.

I knew Lineker was toxic, that's why I specifically said ignore the messenger and listen to the message.

It really isn't that difficult to do.

I've fully explained myself.

I'll not be answering anymore of your questions.

Enjoy the rest of your evening.

😆😆😆

6 hours ago, Sluffy said:

So the words are bollocks just because Lineker said them?

Would they still be bollocks if the Pope had said them?

If not then the words stand whoever says them, do they not?

You’re wasting your time in this debate Sluffy, as you can probably conclude.

For a few folk Israel and the IDF can do no/little wrong, despite the evidence of our own eyes.

And mentioning the Antichrist Lineker provides a perfect opportunity for deflection from the genocide that’s been committed against the Palestinians.

I’ve long given up trying on understand why some seem unable to condemn both Hamas and the IDF for what they’ve done.

1 hour ago, Bertie said:

You’re wasting your time in this debate Sluffy, as you can probably conclude.

For a few folk Israel and the IDF can do no/little wrong, despite the evidence of our own eyes.

And mentioning the Antichrist Lineker provides a perfect opportunity for deflection from the genocide that’s been committed against the Palestinians.

I’ve long given up trying on understand why some seem unable to condemn both Hamas and the IDF for what they’ve done.

Thanks Bertie.

I used to read this thread (and the one about the Ukraine War) when I was banded and saw for myself how peoples bias had more influence on them than their own morals, even Trump said recently that "you don't have to knock down an apartment house every time you're [the IDF] looking for somebody because there are a lot of people in those apartments houses and they are not all Hezbollah [in this case Hamas] that I can tell you"

I don't recall my Inglourious Basterd mate posting frequently on this thread (maybe I'm wrong about that) and if he had, I would have thought from the posts I've read of his over the years that he would have fully agreed with the words of Lineker but again his bias seems far stronger than his morals, how can anyone not agree with the sentiment expressed in those words?

Maybe though he has more issues against the person who posted up the video above than the statement expressed in it?

Christ even if Trump can see that the needless killings of many innocent people is a price to high to pay every single time, that you would think that most people would not still be holding (or defending) views even more rabid than his but clearly some still do (or can't admit to being wrong about having done so)

Anyone seem Bolty?

I'm happy to condemn the morally evil actions of the Israeli government/IDF but I'll also point out that Lineker's actions undermine the point he's making and I think it's important people know

I've got no bias against him or "any issue against the poster who posted up the video", I just don't like Lineker getting away with pretending he's been hard done to

If anyone else wants to focus just on the sentiment, they can obviously crack on doing that