14 minutes ago, Dr. Feelgood said:

Not going to kill you though, tbf, is it.

What isn't?

35 minutes ago, Dr. Feelgood said:

Not going to kill you though, tbf, is it.

It's not, but if we are customers it's prob reasonable to behave like customers

Would sale of goods act not come in to play

We bwfc sell you entry to this event at said time and place

As soon as they can't, I'd argue the contract was frustrated

22 minutes ago, Traf said:

What isn't?

Eaiting a couple of months ... assuming you didn't fully realise already.

It might even be reasonable to charge em an admin fee for chasing the refund and returning the ticket

If it’s off regardless of how long it takes to rearrange you should be able to get money back at the earliest

It will be midweek some can’t do them so just refund 

The immediate offer of a full refund is good practice but there's a legal difference between an event cancelled and one postponed & to be rearranged in good faith. In the latter the purchaser can't equivocally say they can't make the rearranged date until they know what it is.

That's the contract law in this case.

It remains, as said, good practice to offer a refund immediately but the business can look to limit the administration costs if this.

Either way, for the vast bulk, waiting a couple of months for the amount outstanding is "not going to kill you". It's more a case of having a grumble for the sake of it.

Now, we're British, Boltonians at that, & like a good grumble, but recognise it for what it is.

Meanwhile, if anyone can show, irrefutably, that it IS going to kill them to wait a couple of months for their £30 or so I offer to pay it you myself.

I'll need doctor's and bank statements as proof.

6 minutes ago, Dr. Feelgood said:

The immediate offer of a full refund is good practice but there's a legal difference between an event cancelled and one postponed & to be rearranged in good faith. In the latter the purchaser can't equivocally say they can't make the rearranged date until they know what it is.

That's the contract law in this case.

It remains, as said, good practice to offer a refund immediately but the business can look to limit the administration costs if this.

Well, I'm not arguing with you

 

But my counter would be its not whether I can go, it's whether it want to go. I know now I dont

 

I'll go with your explanation of the law, unless @Jol_BWFChas another view

24 minutes ago, Dr. Feelgood said:

Either way, for the vast bulk, waiting a couple of months for the amount outstanding is "not going to kill you". It's more a case of having a grumble for the sake of it.

Now, we're British, Boltonians at that, & like a good grumble, but recognise it for what it is.

Meanwhile, if anyone can show, irrefutably, that it IS going to kill them to wait a couple of months for their £30 or so I offer to pay it you myself.

I'll need doctor's and bank statements as proof.

It’s not a grumble

lets say Rotherham is off the £30 becomes £60 and more if you bought Wycombe or Morecambe tickets

so if you know you can’t attend midweek why should someone hold your money longer than needed

like you said good practice is needed until covid fucks off folk won’t be buying in advance so let’s have some balance 

1 hour ago, Dr. Feelgood said:

Either way, for the vast bulk, waiting a couple of months for the amount outstanding is "not going to kill you". It's more a case of having a grumble for the sake of it.

I was going to explain, but can't be arsed. The "not going to kill you" approach/attitude is poor, it could have been written by Mr Hart himself.

1 hour ago, Dr. Feelgood said:

The immediate offer of a full refund is good practice but there's a legal difference between an event cancelled and one postponed & to be rearranged in good faith. In the latter the purchaser can't equivocally say they can't make the rearranged date until they know what it is.

That's the contract law in this case.

It remains, as said, good practice to offer a refund immediately but the business can look to limit the administration costs if this.

Thing is, he wants things his way. We’re customers when it suits and we’re supporters when that suits.

 

Blessing in disguise.

Hopefully we will be in better form and it won’t be as bloody cold.

Nice spring evening in April please.

2 hours ago, Casino said:

Well, I'm not arguing with you

 

But my counter would be its not whether I can go, it's whether it want to go. I know now I dont

 

I'll go with your explanation of the law, unless @Jol_BWFChas another view

Don’t expect me to be coherent between 24 December and 2 January… It should all be in the bookings Ts & Cs though, for those who weren’t given one of Crawley’s top book recommendations for Xmas and need some bedtime reading.

4 hours ago, radcliffe white said:

Good for evatt takes the pressure off him 

To an extent, yes. Fewer games to play with injury ridden squad.

Hopefully he gets his new faces in quickly, and they hit the ground running.

The comment in statement saying efl will investigate I presume is a standard procedure. They would want, rightly, evidence of number of cases I'd presume. 

If people are defending the club and quoting contract law and small print it shows you the club has got it wrong.

It is not about what they 'can' do but what they 'should' do, thought that was the message Sharon put over in her recent messages. 

3 hours ago, Ani said:

If people are defending the club and quoting contract law and small print it shows you the club has got it wrong.

It is not about what they 'can' do but what they 'should' do, thought that was the message Sharon put over in her recent messages. 

 

7 hours ago, Traf said:

Supporters should retain their tickets until a new date has been agreed. Tickets will then be valid for the new date but anyone unable to attend can obtain a refund at that point.

This must be an EFL-wide thing now. It's still wrong, though.

I could go this week (Jnr isn't in school), but won't be able to go next time, so refunds really should be immediate.

As Traf was referring to earlier it looks more like an EFL thing not just a BWFC    ruling.

I’ve stated before, personally I don’t have a problem with it. I’ll see if the rearranged date works for me and if it doesn’t I’ll get my money back. 

But I can see the issue others have especially if you know you aren’t doing a mid-week. 

Seems to be an EFL-wide terminology, but it will very much up to each club whether or not to implement it.

Personally I’d be fighting it internally if it happened at my place. Not worth the hassle for the staff when, in reality, it isn’t BWFC’s money anyway  when it comes to the away games.

Such attitudes will soon come to roost when, after years of trying to train folk to pre-buy, no fucker will buy in advance and the clubs drop their arses because they can’t plan anything. 

If Rotherham happens to be called off, it will then be FIVE weeks without us having a league game.

Thats unless we can re-arrange a league game for FA3 weekend? 

Even if the Rotherham is on, it’s still three weeks without.

JSL.

 

Send an email asking for your money plus a £1 admin fee and tell them each subsequent email will also attract a £1 admin fee. Send a further email every day each time adding a pound to the claim. See who blinks first.

2 minutes ago, captainmed said:

If Rotherham happens to be called off, it will then be FIVE weeks without us having a league game.

Thats unless we can re-arrange a league game for FA3 weekend? 

Even if the Rotherham is on, it’s still three weeks without.

JSL.

 

Wycombe, morcambe & Burton all have fixtures fa cup weekend 

3 minutes ago, radcliffe white said:

Wycombe, morcambe & Burton all have fixtures fa cup weekend 

Maybe bring forward a Tuesday night game already planned for later in the season if our opponents are out of the FA Cup too?

Havent looked, it may not be possible.

1 minute ago, captainmed said:

Maybe bring forward a Tuesday night game already planned for later in the season if our opponents are out of the FA Cup too?

Havent looked, it may not be possible.

We both know that won't happen

It probably should, but it wont

1 minute ago, captainmed said:

Maybe bring forward a Tuesday night game already planned for later in the season if our opponents are out of the FA Cup too?

Havent looked, it may not be possible.

Possibly pal

i read yesterday that the EFL will start to worry when they start to get to 5 games called off so be plenty of sat/tues fixtures to go at 2022

4 minutes ago, captainmed said:

Maybe bring forward a Tuesday night game already planned for later in the season if our opponents are out of the FA Cup too?

Havent looked, it may not be possible.

 

1 minute ago, Casino said:

We both know that won't happen

It probably should, but it wont

Believe it or not there’s only three scheduled league midweeks so far, and one of those is the rescheduled Cambridge game. Other two are Lincoln (already got a league game that weekend) and Charlton (still in FA Cup)

3 minutes ago, Leyther_Matt said:

 

Believe it or not there’s only three scheduled league midweeks so far, and one of those is the rescheduled Cambridge game. Other two are Lincoln (already got a league game that weekend) and Charlton (still in FA Cup)

Like med, I've not checked but if both teams are healthy, we should be looking to get games played

Free Saturdays are criminal

Both in terms of completing the season and financially