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Trying to dilute comedy

I’m fuckin sick of it now. 
Got people absolutely frothing at the mouth over Jimmy Carrs gypsy/holocaust joke 

I am of the opinion that comedians have the free right to say absolutely anything they like in order to get a laugh
 

It wasn’t on the bbc, it’s on a paid subscription 

Such outrage over a joke. I don’t get it, if you turn a comedian on and he’s not funny or you’re offended then turn it off what is with this cancel culture bollocks 

If you haven’t seen it this is the joke 

Too many soft cunts in this country

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  • Not in Crawley
    Not in Crawley

    You could continue that joke. It might offend. But not for the reasons you've outlined about underepresentation. I think the real issue here isn't about the joke, it's about the fact it

  • Shit in her cunt.

  • Rudy is bang on. How far will we let this sanitisation (read 'removal of free speech as a basic tenet of democracy') go. Far too many cunts out there frantically searching for something to be offended

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2 minutes ago, only1swanny said:

I quite like him, wife doesn't.. we put on his show and the wife was really .. not enjoying it so turned it off and watched it later on. Its that straight forward..

She didn't get offended or whinge 

Unfortunately, it's not quite that straight forward.

And in many ways it shouldn't be, because if it was the joke itself probably wouldn't work.

These days…

These days you can't do corporate gigs for lethal injection firm's annual do and stuff the cash in your mattress without having your wrists half-heartedly slapped and being invited on Question Time, these days...

34 minutes ago, Not in Crawley said:

You could continue that joke.

It might offend.

But not for the reasons you've outlined about underepresentation.

I think the real issue here isn't about the joke, it's about the fact it's been available for three months, it's only when people's attention is drawn to it under the title of this is offensive over social media that there is an issue. Such as being told what we should feel and think. It also takes it out of context of what he was doing as people have said.

Does anyone really think Jimmy Carr is anti Gypsy's? Or pro killing them all? Of course not.

There is a world away from this and the likes of Jim Davidson and Chalky.

I can understand the idea behind the Holocaust joke and I wasn't offended by it.

He has previously joked about Gypsy women in a way that suggests his attitude towards them might be less than favourable:

‘The male gypsy moth can smell the female gyspy moth up to seven miles away – and that fact also works if you remove the word “moth”.’

There doesn't seem to be any "educational quality" to that particular joke.

Shit in her cunt.

5 minutes ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

I can understand the idea behind the Holocaust joke and I wasn't offended by it.

He has previously joked about Gypsy women in a way that suggests his attitude towards them might be less than favourable:

‘The male gypsy moth can smell the female gyspy moth up to seven miles away – and that fact also works if you remove the word “moth”.’

There doesn't seem to be any "educational quality" to that particular joke.

I don't think anyone is saying there is educational quality.

Its about why people get shocked and then laugh.

13 minutes ago, Traf said:

Shit in her cunt.

:D

There is no way Snatch is getting a sequel that's for sure.

2 minutes ago, Not in Crawley said:

I don't think anyone is saying there is educational quality.

Its about why people get shocked and then laugh.

It was one of the defences for the joke offered by Carr. That he was highlighting how society doesn't recognise that other groups were killed during the Holocaust because it doesn't care as much about them. But it was only one of the defences.

I'm just pointing out that he's happy to make jokes about them when he's not trying to "educate". It was just in response to you being certain he's not anti-Gypsy. 

I can think of about ten other jokes JC has done or talked about doing worse than that.

 

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i put Joe Rogans stand up on the other day, 5 mins I didn’t laugh. Turned it off. 
 

Why can’t people just turn it off and shut the fuck up

You tell a joke that is 'edgy' you run the risk offending your audience. Ask Chubby Brown. 
 

It is strange with most comics being lefties that this debate will twist some of them in circles. 
 

If you laugh at a racist joke is it ironic to then get outraged at people using racist language at the football ? 

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3 minutes ago, Ani said:

You tell a joke that is 'edgy' you run the risk offending your audience. Ask Chubby Brown. 
 

It is strange with most comics being lefties that this debate will twist some of them in circles. 
 

If you laugh at a racist joke is it ironic to then get outraged at people using racist language at the football ? 

It’s about context 

7 minutes ago, Ani said:

You tell a joke that is 'edgy' you run the risk offending your audience. Ask Chubby Brown. 
 

It is strange with most comics being lefties that this debate will twist some of them in circles. 
 

If you laugh at a racist joke is it ironic to then get outraged at people using racist language at the football ? 

Doesn't really twist anyone in circles though, does it? Its pretty simple all told.

Sounds like the typical trying to be edgy dog shite he usually does.

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Bloody hell it wasn’t about the joke it was about people being outraged over a comedian over a joke 

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16 minutes ago, Ani said:

If you laugh at a racist joke is it ironic to then get outraged at people using racist language at the football ? 

'Racist' jokes can be funny, its about the context.

Bill Burr has some jokes/stories that make me absolutely piss that play on stereotypes.

 

 

7 minutes ago, Rudy said:

Bloody bell it wasn’t about the joke it was about people being outraged over a comedian over a joke 

Im not sure why this is hard to grasp :D

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7 minutes ago, barryk32 said:

'Racist' jokes can be funny, its about the context.

Bill Burr has some jokes/stories that make me absolutely piss that play on stereotypes.

 

He’s the best example of it. He also takes the Piss out of himself and his own race, Richard Pryor was the best at doing that. 

….if you say you’re English….

31 minutes ago, Rudy said:

It’s about context 

It's not though, it is about personal values and believes 

There are some jokes that will be offensive to some people no matter the context. 

37 minutes ago, Not in Crawley said:

Doesn't really twist anyone in circles though, does it? Its pretty simple all told.

Yeah the whole subject of free speech and what is and is not acceptable is pretty simple. 

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2 minutes ago, Ani said:

It's not though, it is about personal values and believes 

There are some jokes that will be offensive to some people no matter the context. 

Because they don’t understand context 

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3 minutes ago, Rudy said:

Because they don’t understand context 

So a comedian can say anything and it is always ok ? 

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