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Trying to dilute comedy

I’m fuckin sick of it now. 
Got people absolutely frothing at the mouth over Jimmy Carrs gypsy/holocaust joke 

I am of the opinion that comedians have the free right to say absolutely anything they like in order to get a laugh
 

It wasn’t on the bbc, it’s on a paid subscription 

Such outrage over a joke. I don’t get it, if you turn a comedian on and he’s not funny or you’re offended then turn it off what is with this cancel culture bollocks 

If you haven’t seen it this is the joke 

Too many soft cunts in this country

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    You could continue that joke. It might offend. But not for the reasons you've outlined about underepresentation. I think the real issue here isn't about the joke, it's about the fact it

  • Shit in her cunt.

  • Rudy is bang on. How far will we let this sanitisation (read 'removal of free speech as a basic tenet of democracy') go. Far too many cunts out there frantically searching for something to be offended

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5 minutes ago, frank_spencer said:

Wasnt going to comment on this but.

Lived amongst a Roma/English Gypsy family for the past 20yrs of my life. Wife lived in a caravan (on her grandparents land) in her early years. None of her close family travel anymore but work in the stereotypical jobs building game, selling caravans etc.

Many of them have lauged at some of Jimmy Carr's jokes about Gypsies (What's the difference between a riot and a Gypsy wedding? You can't buy a gate at a riot) this one has crossed the line. If he wouldn't say jokes about Jewish/slavic/disabled people being slaughtered being a good thing then he shouldn't say them about Gypsies.

If he'd come out and said "I know I sail close to the wind with my jokes and this time I've overstepped the mark and I'm sorry" I could see it all going away rather quickly.

Surely your gate joke sort of makes the point though?

Can't speak for your family, but personally we've been affected in various ways by our local lot, and so have the wider community- in ways they won't know about.

 

Just now, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Surely your gate joke sort of makes the point though?

Can't speak for your family, but personally we've been affected in various ways by our local lot, and so have the wider community- in ways they won't know about.

 

Our white British sides of the family have been in more bother with the law than any of her Gypsy family.

Hitler would have rounded up and killed my son just because of his ancestry fucking hilarious 😂

I got gypped by some gypsies once, after I gave them the benefit of the doubt, my old man did similar and they did a reet cowboy job, my gypsies didn't even do my job they just fucked off with the money I'd gave them for materials, stupid twats, I'd have paid them in full for even half-arsed work.

Tax dodger Carr should be tied to a post on Hall Lane and all the gyppos should be allowed to horsewhip him - then carry him over to Crommy Lodges and hurl him in, and goad the resident swans (the birds not the band) into pecking him to near-death.

Then forcibly inject him with heroin every four hours for a month or so, until he's addicted.

5 minutes ago, frank_spencer said:

Our white British sides of the family have been in more bother with the law than any of her Gypsy family.

Hitler would have rounded up and killed my son just because of his ancestry fucking hilarious 😂

My granddad wasn't arsed about gyppos, jews, gays etc. He was mainly into killing British and Americans - mainly Americans.

He was very embittered about having to surrender in The Ardennes.

21 minutes ago, frank_spencer said:

Our white British sides of the family have been in more bother with the law than any of her Gypsy family.

Hitler would have rounded up and killed my son just because of his ancestry fucking hilarious 😂

No one is advocating killing them though. 

10 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

No one is advocating killing them though. 

Had we been alive at that time my wife and son would have been rounded up and killed in the concentration camps but that's 'a positive'

7 minutes ago, frank_spencer said:

Had we been alive at that time my wife and son would have been rounded up and killed in the concentration camps but that's 'a positive'

But that's ahistorical. You probably make a decent amount selling pegs and lucky heather.

You're lucky to be six feet above. They normally murder house-dwelling 'worjas' who corrupt their daughters.

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12 minutes ago, frank_spencer said:

Had we been alive at that time my wife and son would have been rounded up and killed in the concentration camps but that's 'a positive'

Thats one big massive If mate, Jesus Christ 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

…these days…

Is Carr a homer-sexual? If not does he have a bird/wife? Well let the dog see the rabbit.

She might be a Babestation style golddigga due to Carr making a mint doing corporate gigs for Colonel Gadaffi's ghost and Richard 'beardy beast' Branston (his pickle is too sweet an' all).

Out of interest did anyone see the documentary on channel 4? 60 days with the Gypsy's? 

Started off well.. ended badly.. 

Might slam on some Dave Chappele or a few others later so I can get offended on behalf of my demographic.

 

24 minutes ago, gonzo said:

Might slam on some Dave Chappele or a few others later so I can get offended on behalf of my demographic.

 

Are you transitioning? 

His last special was basically a Ted Talk about trannies

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He's a self-loathing tranny shagger (Chappelle) just like Eddie Murphy who gave 'a lift' to two hundred trannies - not all at once, on separate occasions.

 

56 minutes ago, deane koontz said:

Are you transitioning? 

His last special was basically a Ted Talk about trannies

Well I know plenty of them. Im officially offended and want everything cancelled.

My son could have been a tranny 45 years ago.

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2 hours ago, gonzo said:

Thats one big massive If mate, Jesus Christ 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

If a frog had wings it wouldn’t bump its arse when it hopped 

And now the thread descends into a debate over whether the majority of gypsies are scumbags or not 😆

Good thread this, fair play Rudy. I'd agree with a lot of your points, but still think if you're going to make jokes that push the boundaries then you'll be expecting some people to be offended. The way to combat that is to not give a flying fuck.

Also don't think it's as simple as you're a soft arse wet wipe if there's a joke you find offensive. Everyone has their own context and experiences as to why they might think something crossed a line.

The problem is when folk lose their jobs or gigs because someone was offended by their material.

The Dion Charles situation, whilst different, was handled well. He was criticised, apologised and given the chance to move on. How it should be. 

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11 minutes ago, London Wanderer said:

 

Good thread this, fair play Rudy. I'd agree with a lot of your points, but still think if you're going to make jokes that push the boundaries then you'll be expecting some people to be offended. The way to combat that is to not give a flying fuck.

Also don't think it's as simple as you're a soft arse wet wipe if there's a joke you find offensive. Everyone has their own context and experiences as to why they might think something crossed a line.

The problem is when folk lose their jobs or gigs because someone was offended by their material.

Bang on.

I remember watching Bernard Manning at Lancashire CC around 1997, we had a black lad on our table who as you can imagine got a right load of shit, he took it well and Bernard bought him a pint after. There was a woman on the next table who was offended at the jokes and stormed out (whilst getting a load of shit off BM). There’s to many cockwombles getting offended for others. 

2 hours ago, royal white said:

I remember watching Bernard Manning at Lancashire CC around 1997, we had a black lad on our table who as you can imagine got a right load of shit, he took it well and Bernard bought him a pint after. There was a woman on the next table who was offended at the jokes and stormed out (whilst getting a load of shit off BM). There’s to many cockwombles getting offended for others. 

They were laughing and drinking whisky at the end listening to 'Afro-American' music.

Why the fuck would anyone go and watch Manning (Bernard not Chelsea)?

'She' is a dog but why doesn't she do porn? She could probably make a few quid getting bummed in a military uniform. He probably got bummed in the nick. So get bummed for money?

Edited by Youri McAnespie

8 hours ago, frank_spencer said:

Wasnt going to comment on this but.

Lived amongst a Roma/English Gypsy family for the past 20yrs of my life. Wife lived in a caravan (on her grandparents land) in her early years. None of her close family travel anymore but work in the stereotypical jobs building game, selling caravans etc.

Many of them have lauged at some of Jimmy Carr's jokes about Gypsies (What's the difference between a riot and a Gypsy wedding? You can't buy a gate at a riot) this one has crossed the line. If he wouldn't say jokes about Jewish/slavic/disabled people being slaughtered being a good thing then he shouldn't say them about Gypsies.

If he'd come out and said "I know I sail close to the wind with my jokes and this time I've overstepped the mark and I'm sorry" I could see it all going away rather quickly.

 

I think there's probably a sense that if he apologises for this, why not apologise for everything else in his act. If it's not all fair game, then the whole thing falls apart.

But I think he'd have been much better off if the joke hadn't been so monumentally basic and shit. At least there's some level of observational comedy in the gate joke you mentioned.

1 hour ago, Youri McAnespie said:

They were laughing and drinking whisky at the end listening to 'Afro-American' music.

Why the fuck would anyone go and watch Manning (Bernard not Chelsea)?

'She' is a dog but why doesn't she do porn? She could probably make a few quid getting bummed in a military uniform. He probably got bummed in the nick. So get bummed for money?

Each to their own which is what we are trying to highlight on here. If you don’t think you’re going like Someone’s routine then don’t go. 

So the "gate" joke about Gypsies is OK, but the hoolcaust one isn't?

You've lost me.

12 hours ago, royal white said:

I remember watching Bernard Manning at Lancashire CC around 1997, we had a black lad on our table who as you can imagine got a right load of shit, he took it well and Bernard bought him a pint after. 

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The Bernard Manning Bisto gravy clip is extremely funny :)

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