2 hours ago, Winchester White said:

Are you saying that the MET deployed the same amount of coppers for a protest of 150k and another of just 1500? That can't be right, surely Jeff?

1600 for Trump demo

1600 for Tommy 

1100 for Palestine 

so almost 3000 cops for 6500 protestors. 

Edited September 18, 2025Sep 18 by royal white

2 hours ago, London Wanderer said:

So far since your lovely day out…

 you’ve claimed that the msm lied & actually 1 million people were there.

 You’ve claimed the media have ‘shat on it’. When actually I’ve seen a lot of balanced & honest articles about the event. 

 You’ve also criticised people for calling a blatantly obvious right wing event ( with right wing speakers ) right wing.

 It all comes across as a bit screechy & defensive - When you’re being asked some perfectly valid questions about the organisers & who they invited to speak. Alongside what you want the March to achieve.

Thats not a criticism of you attending, just genuinely curious about these things, but you don’t seem up for discussing them.

Stop making shit up mate

2 hours ago, Spider said:

I wasnt

in fact, I could have told you that beforehand.

Seems a bit of a waste of effort really doesn’t it? Xxx

Yep ... wish I hadn't bothered 🙂

7 minutes ago, wanderer1984 said:

Stop making shit up mate

What did I make up mate? Which of those things have you not said since you went on the protest ? 
 

You’ve been asked some really simple questions about your reasons for going & the people the organisers invited speak. And all you’re doing is deflecting from discussing it. 

Edited September 18, 2025Sep 18 by London Wanderer

Trump taking the credit for stopping the Azerbaijan-Albania conflict 

1 hour ago, royal white said:

1600 for Trump demo

1600 for Tommy 

1100 for Palestine 

so almost 3000 cops for 6500 protestors. 

Seems like overkill but I assume the visit of the US president results in a lot of overtime as they can't allow for something to go wrong and it be beamed around the world that the UK fucked up.

I assume MI5/6 have been working round the clock of late too.

1 hour ago, royal white said:

Yes let’s compare planned organised demos with a riot. 🤦🏻
 

17 out of 1500 were arrested for violence the other weekend  

 

20 odd out of 150k 

 

the police send more to police left wing demonstrating per demonstrator by a long shot. There’s a reason for that. I’ll let you try and figure it out 

Two-Tier Kier is heavy handed on the left now, instead of the right? Is that the reason?

2 minutes ago, boltonboris said:

Two-Tier Kier is heavy handed on the left now, instead of the right? Is that the reason?

No, it’s because the police work on intelligence 

1 hour ago, royal white said:

Yes let’s compare planned organised demos with a riot. 🤦🏻
 

17 out of 1500 were arrested for violence the other weekend  

 

20 odd out of 150k 

 

the police send more to police left wing demonstrating per demonstrator by a long shot. There’s a reason for that. I’ll let you try and figure it out 

There is absolutely nothing in there that shows the left have been more violent.

Fairly equal numbers for arrests for violence. 
 

The police admitted they underestimated the numbers on Saturday & there was a shit load of local footy games to police. Of course they’re going to heavily police a visit from Trump. The Palestine Action protesters require about 4 officers per protester to carry them into the van, they were always going to need lots of police when they knew they’d be arresting most of those attending for holding a banner. What an odd argument. 

The Southport riots were heavily connected with anti immigration protests. Far right groups were organising things at the time. Some BLM protests turned into riots as well for balance. Protests & riots go hand in hand.

 You’re going to have to do much better with the numbers if you’re to show that one side is clearly more violent. 
 

All you’ve shown me so far is 20 vs 17 😂

 Both as bad as each other from where I’m sitting 

Edited September 18, 2025Sep 18 by London Wanderer

3 minutes ago, royal white said:

No, it’s because the police work on intelligence 

But I thought the police only arrested right wing demonstrators. Was that not the argument, or has that moved on now?

6 minutes ago, London Wanderer said:

There is absolutely nothing in there that shows the left have been more violent.

Fairly equal numbers for arrests for violence. 
 

The police admitted they underestimated the numbers on Saturday & there was a shit load of local footy games to police. Of course they’re going to heavily police a visit from Trump. The Palestine Action protesters require about 4 officers per protester to carry them into the van, they were always going to need lots of police when they knew they’d be arresting most of those attending for holding a banner. What an odd argument. 

The Southport riots were heavily connected with anti immigration protests. Far right groups were organising things at the time. Some BLM protests turned into riots as well for balance. Protests & riots go hand in hand.

 You’re going to have to do much better with the numbers if you’re to show that one side is clearly more violent. 
 

All you’ve shown so far is shown me 20 vs 17 😂

 Both as bad as each other from where I’m sitting 

Can someone explain to London how averages work please. 

4 minutes ago, boltonboris said:

But I thought the police only arrested right wing demonstrators. Was that not the argument, or has that moved on now?

I’m guessing you thought wrong. 

Just now, royal white said:

I’m guessing you thought wrong. 

Where does the Two-Tier Kier moniker come from then?

24 minutes ago, London Wanderer said:

What did I make up mate? Which of those things have you not said since you went on the protest ? 
 

You’ve been asked some really simple questions about your reasons for going & the people the organisers invited speak. And all you’re doing is deflecting from discussing it. 

I'm choosing not to discuss it.

I know you and Spider are desperate to know more about it. Maybe you should both go to the next one.

Millions of folk you can ask your questions to

 

2 minutes ago, boltonboris said:

Where does the Two-Tier Kier moniker come from then?

Not sure why you keep asking me? 

27 minutes ago, royal white said:

Can someone explain to London how averages work please. 

You’re arguing one side is clearly more violent than the other. I’m not, I’m arguing they are about the same.

 Unless you can show me that a lot more on one side are arrested for violent offences. Then you’re just going to have to accept that you’ve no evidence to back up your point.

Because the police sending similar numbers of coppers to the Trump & Palestine Action demos isn’t evidence one side is more violent. 
 

How many arrested for aggression at the Trump demo so far? 

Edited September 18, 2025Sep 18 by London Wanderer

15 minutes ago, wanderer1984 said:

I'm choosing not to discuss it.

I know you and Spider are desperate to know more about it. Maybe you should both go to the next one.

Millions of folk you can ask your questions to

 

So I didn’t make anything up then, you did say all those things 👍
 

I don’t know why you’re so defensive about discussing it, but fair enough.

 I’m not criticising you for going, fair play to you. I’m asking what you thought of those who the organisers invited to speak. I’m asking you because I don’t yet know someone else that went. 
 

Why would I go ? I share completely different views to Musk, Robinson & the likes of Katie Hopkins. Aligning ourselves with the MAGA movement & a French politicians with a conviction for racism isn’t going to help this country. IMO. 
 

What’s with the lies about how many attended ? It has been proven there wasn’t a million. Why not just celebrate how great a turnout it was? Because accusing the MSM of lying, whilst lying yourself, just makes you look like a daft hypocrite. 

 

7 minutes ago, London Wanderer said:

So I didn’t make anything up then, you did say all those things

Nope 👍🏻

9 minutes ago, wanderer1984 said:

Nope 👍🏻

Which out of the statements I made in that post did I make up? 

38 minutes ago, London Wanderer said:

You’re arguing one side is clearly more violent than the other. I’m not, I’m arguing they are about the same.

 Unless you can show me that a lot more on one side are arrested for violent offences. Then you’re just going to have to accept that you’ve no evidence to back up your point.

Because the police sending similar numbers of coppers to the Trump & Palestine Action demos isn’t evidence one side is more violent. 
 

How many arrested for aggression at the Trump demo so far? 

You really aren’t getting it are you? Do you know how averages work? 
 

Why do you think the police send the same amount for a few 1000 as they do for 150k? Just a bit of OT for the ranks? 

1 hour ago, wanderer1984 said:

Stop making shit up mate

I told you. It's the mushrooms.

1 hour ago, wanderer1984 said:

Yep ... wish I hadn't bothered 🙂

What was your favourite part of the day out?

49 minutes ago, royal white said:

Can someone explain to London how averages work please. 

If you have 16 mushrooms in one keffiyeh, 11 in another and 6 in a third, the average mushroom haul is 11.

3 minutes ago, bolty58 said:

I told you. It's the mushrooms.

You’re on fire today 

Just so sharp 👌 

48 minutes ago, royal white said:

Not sure why you keep asking me? 

https://news.sky.com/story/is-this-britain-or-soviet-union-elon-musk-hits-out-after-video-appears-to-show-man-arrested-for-facebook-comments-13191898