Meanwhile In England

[kent_white]

7 hours ago, bolty58 said:

On your soapbox at a tongue in cheeker?

Elon is correct. The route to hell in a handcart with Labour at the helm.

We did tell you before the GE.

I can't see what Labour have supposedly done that's made the situation any better or worse since the GE, sadly. 

Happened on blue watch! 😉

[bolty58]

5 hours ago, L/H White said:

TOMMEH looked like he had his fair share of powder on saturday

I thought his clothing seemed very well laundered and clean too.

[bolty58]

1 hour ago, kent_white said:

I can't see what Labour have supposedly done that's made the situation any better or worse since the GE, sadly. 

Happened on blue watch! 😉

Of course you can't. Just remove the tinted spectacles.

Edited September 15, 2025 by bolty58

[DazBob]

1 hour ago, London Wanderer said:

😂😂

Bolty can’t seem to decipher between advocating for free speech & liking a musician. 

You're talking about a man who thinks it's okay to tell racist jokes to a black barman. I wouldn't bother trying to understand what he's thinking.

[Sweep]

4 hours ago, Not in Crawley said:

He's not an MP, so he can't currently.

Good point 😃

I do think he's got his eyes on the prize though

[paulhanley]

Paul Embery. A man of the left who very much has the number of the wokery. Hitting the nail on the head yet once more. 

[Tonge moor green jacket]

The very essence of what has gone wrong. 

Just like Brexit, it isn't a left-right issue.

Just had to look at voting patterns, and listen to people to understand that.

Thrust too many, too quickly, into "red wall" areas and they will inevitably react. 

But they're all far right, racist thugs as we know.

Chickens are coming home to roost now.

[Cheese]

25 minutes ago, paulhanley said:

Paul Embery. A man of the left who very much has the number of the wokery. Hitting the nail on the head yet once more. 

And yet you all spent the last decade cheering on Boris and Co. and getting exactly what you wanted. How odd that you're now suddenly upset about what they were doing?

[Winchester White]

5 minutes ago, Cheese said:

And yet you all spent the last decade cheering on Boris and Co. and getting exactly what you wanted. How odd that you're now suddenly upset about what they were doing?

Quite. Boris was fucking God on here, he was wanked over by the likes of Bolty and others.

He was a disaster for the conservative party, he destroyed it from within.

A good small c conservative party has been my political leaning most of my life but Brexit, Austerity and the Boris clusterfuck proved their real motives.

 

[Dimron]

I've always been right of centre most of the time... like you I would prefer small c conservatism.

I used to think Cameron was the worst PM ever but then came the rest, a true race to the bottom.

[royal white]

26 minutes ago, Winchester White said:

Quite. Boris was fucking God on here, he was wanked over by the likes of Bolty and others.

He was a disaster for the conservative party, he destroyed it from within.

A good small c conservative party has been my political leaning most of my life but Brexit, Austerity and the Boris clusterfuck proved their real motives.

 

Sound pretty much like what’s happening now with Starmer 

[Dimron]

1 minute ago, royal white said:

Sound pretty much like what’s happening now with Starmer 

Austerity 

[paulhanley]

1 hour ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

The very essence of what has gone wrong. 

Just like Brexit, it isn't a left-right issue.

Just had to look at voting patterns, and listen to people to understand that.

Thrust too many, too quickly, into "red wall" areas and they will inevitably react. 

But they're all far right, racist thugs as we know.

Chickens are coming home to roost now.

Everyone who disagrees with them is a far-right fascist. It is the same old three card trick. The Soviets used it just the same. If you disagree with someone, don't debate them, declare their views unacceptable by whatever means suits you that day, make them persona non grata, shut them down before anyone else gets big ideas.

Thing is its been seen through now. People are no longer scared of it and they will call it out.

[Winchester White]

Just now, royal white said:

Sound pretty much like what’s happening now with Starmer 

He's having a right mare I will agree with you on that. But he seems to be coming from it the right place, good intentions, trying to get things working but it just isn't happening. The vitriol he gets online is absurd though but we have free speech despite what that idiot Musk would say.

[Dimron]

2 minutes ago, Winchester White said:

He's having a right mare I will agree with you on that. But he seems to be coming from it the right place, good intentions, trying to get things working but it just isn't happening. The vitriol he gets online is absurd though but we have free speech despite what that idiot Musk would say.

Ignored domestic issues too much flitting around doing the foreign secs job.

Left it to his minnions and they collectively fucked up... needs to get in there and micro-manage them for the next 12 months, or at least until next May

[Spider]

18 minutes ago, paulhanley said:

Everyone who disagrees with them is a far-right fascist. It is the same old three card trick. The Soviets used it just the same. If you disagree with someone, don't debate them, declare their views unacceptable by whatever means suits you that day, make them persona non grata, shut them down before anyone else gets big ideas.

Thing is its been seen through now. People are no longer scared of it and they will call it out.

Why are Labour being blamed for it all, when this, as you quite rightly point out, has been happening for many years?

Is it really fair to expect any government to turn years of dogshit around inside 12 months?

 

[kent_white]

26 minutes ago, paulhanley said:

Everyone who disagrees with them is a far-right fascist. It is the same old three card trick. The Soviets used it just the same. If you disagree with someone, don't debate them, declare their views unacceptable by whatever means suits you that day, make them persona non grata, shut them down before anyone else gets big ideas.

Thing is its been seen through now. People are no longer scared of it and they will call it out.

To be fair Paul. That argument works both ways. 

It's a poor do when we can't even speak to each other any more. 

[royal white]

24 minutes ago, Winchester White said:

He's having a right mare I will agree with you on that. But he seems to be coming from it the right place, good intentions, trying to get things working but it just isn't happening. The vitriol he gets online is absurd though but we have free speech despite what that idiot Musk would say.

Tories blamed Labour as soon as they got in for the state the country was in, no doubt the next lot who get in will be blaming Labour. Rinse and repeat. A sitting goverment losing an election is usually an indication they have done shit. 

[kent_white]

2 hours ago, bolty58 said:

Of course you can't. Just remove the tinted spectacles.

My spectacles are well and truly removed. I just can't fathom what Labour are supposed to have done which is drastically different than what the Tories did during their time in office when it comes to immigration. 

Happy for you to educate me of course.........

[gonzo]

24 minutes ago, royal white said:

Tories blamed Labour as soon as they got in for the state the country was in, no doubt the next lot who get in will be blaming Labour. Rinse and repeat. A sitting goverment losing an election is usually an indication they have done shit. 

Labour got the blame for a global recession instigated by the banking collapse in the US.

I wouldn't trust our electorate.

We voted to throw ourselves off a cliff not long after as well.

[Sweep]

1 hour ago, Dimron said:

I've always been right of centre most of the time... like you I would prefer small c conservatism.

I used to think Cameron was the worst PM ever but then came the rest, a true race to the bottom.

Agree with all that, like you, I'm naturally centre of right, and I'm sometimes accused of being too far right by some because of some of my views. However, Cameron looks a proper statesman these days, compared to what followed. Even old school tory types were taken in by that cunt Johnson, who has managed to destroy the Conservative Party, they'll struggle to ever return as things stand. 

To think, he was referred to as "Churchillian" at one point 🤣

[frank_spencer]

1 minute ago, Sweep said:

Agree with all that, like you, I'm naturally centre of right, and I'm sometimes accused of being too far right by some because of some of my views. However, Cameron looks a proper statesman these days, compared to what followed. Even old school tory types were taken in by that cunt Johnson, who has managed to destroy the Conservative Party, they'll struggle to ever return as things stand. 

To think, he was referred to as "Churchillian" at one point 🤣

Theresa May was the 2nd coming of Maggie Thatcher as well.

[Winchester White]

4 minutes ago, frank_spencer said:

Theresa May was the 2nd coming of Maggie Thatcher as well.

Haha yes, Bolty is the eternal prophet of Doom! 😂

[Sweep]

1 hour ago, royal white said:

Sound pretty much like what’s happening now with Starmer 

Agree to a point. I think Johnson was massively self serving, I worry Starmer is just weak/incompetent. Either way, I don't t think Starmer will be running Labour at the next GE

[Sweep]

34 minutes ago, gonzo said:

Labour got the blame for a global recession instigated by the banking collapse in the US.

I wouldn't trust our electorate.

We voted to throw ourselves off a cliff not long after as well.

There's the issue, for many of our ills. The fact everybody is allowed a vote, even fucking gormless mouth breathing no marks. A large portion of the electorate are thick as fuck, and have no idea what they're actually voting for. There really should be some sort of test.