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Anyone taken the plunge?

Theyve been onto me with an offer that seems to good to refuse. New tellybox, £50 off monthly fees, improved broadband speeds.

Assume they’re struggling to shift the stock?

Is it worth it?

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13 hours ago, BobyBrno said:

We are a dying breed. For all its faults, the BBC is the best tv and radio station in the world. The fee will eventually disappear due to reducing numbers of licence payers and the BBC as we know it will follow. The ones not paying will be the biggest Moaners. 

Even though the BBC is a wokey, left leaning, biased cabal with some sort of sinister agenda?* 🙂

 

*as some dicks would try and have us believe 

54 minutes ago, MancWanderer said:

Totally agree. BBC should become a paid for channel. If you want it, pay for it. If you don’t, then don’t. Why should you have to pay for owning a telly to subsidise a channel you may not watch

i do pay for a  licence and do watch BBC btw

Nah

It's right that we have a national broadcaster we all contribute to - I genuinely think it's one of the things that keeps us connected as a society

It'd be shit if we went the way of the US and had only commercial media

2 minutes ago, Sweep said:

Even though the BBC is a wokey, left leaning, biased cabal with some sort of sinister agenda?* 🙂

 

*as some dicks would try and have us believe 

Yep. Those are its faults. 😉

31 minutes ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

Nah

It's right that we have a national broadcaster we all contribute to - I genuinely think it's one of the things that keeps us connected as a society

It'd be shit if we went the way of the US and had only commercial media

I agree 

But the times they are a changing 

It'll be a tough sell for future generations brought up in on demand world 

I hope they find a way to continue what they're doing 

Do people still need to hide behind the sofa when licence inspectors knock on the door? Did that loads at uni in the 90s 

Had some mates who let them in to demonstrate they didn't have a signal and only ever watched things on VHS 

Most of the younger generation don't have TVs, all laptops.

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2 hours ago, Zico said:

I agree 

But the times they are a changing 

It'll be a tough sell for future generations brought up in on demand world 

I hope they find a way to continue what they're doing 

Do people still need to hide behind the sofa when licence inspectors knock on the door? Did that loads at uni in the 90s 

Had some mates who let them in to demonstrate they didn't have a signal and only ever watched things on VHS 

I remember when my mum used to get suspicious of a van parked on our street. Said it might be the tv detector can and they could tell if you were watching telly and even whether it was colour or black and white.

Thats cos my mum always bought a black and white license and said that if they ever came round she’d just turn the colour down on the telly.

Great days

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1 hour ago, Not in Crawley said:

Most of the younger generation don't have TVs, all laptops.

Most?

8 minutes ago, Casino said:

Most?

Well in my limited experience in this there London, not met anyone under 30 who ever bothers with a TV. Reasons being flat shares, they didn't at uni and haven't been brought up with engaging with linear TV in the way boomers, Gen X and older Mileninals did.

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6 hours ago, Not in Crawley said:

Well in my limited experience in this there London, not met anyone under 30 who ever bothers with a TV. Reasons being flat shares, they didn't at uni and haven't been brought up with engaging with linear TV in the way boomers, Gen X and older Mileninals did.

I se these phrases but have never really know who’s who.

whats Gen X?

1967 - 1982 roughly - there are are few years crossover on each one. So whilst i waa born in 78, and am Gen X, it also diverges with early Millenials who start in 82.

So those from 77 - 82 are described as Xenianls. As as crossover. So grew up in a non digital world, but their formative work experiences was at the start of digital, which developed as thier career developed. It's a decent age, means you straddle both eras. But your not a digital native like those born post 2000 who have never know anything other.

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1 hour ago, Not in Crawley said:

1967 - 1982 roughly - there are are few years crossover on each one. So whilst i waa born in 78, and am Gen X, it also diverges with early Millenials who start in 82.

So those from 77 - 82 are described as Xenianls. As as crossover. So grew up in a non digital world, but their formative work experiences was at the start of digital, which developed as thier career developed. It's a decent age, means you straddle both eras. But your not a digital native like those born post 2000 who have never know anything other.

 

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1 hour ago, Spider said:

 

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😁 spoken like a true Xenial

9 hours ago, Not in Crawley said:

Well in my limited experience in this there London, not met anyone under 30 who ever bothers with a TV. Reasons being flat shares, they didn't at uni and haven't been brought up with engaging with linear TV in the way boomers, Gen X and older Mileninals did.

As an aside I imagine everyone in London over 40 who did bother with a TV back in the day had one of these 

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2 minutes ago, Zico said:

As an aside I imagine everyone in London over 40 who did bother with a TV back in the day had one of these 

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Nah fam  - DVD playa innit

11 hours ago, Not in Crawley said:

Most of the younger generation don't have TVs, all laptops.

No they don’t 

6 hours ago, MancWanderer said:

No they don’t 

Yes they do.

 

1 hour ago, Not in Crawley said:

Yes they do.

 

My kids barely watch telly. Eldest (12) does a few films here and there but its 80% phone, tablet and his comp.

My youngest whos 9 never does. Phone, Xbox and tablet.

Neither of them know what channels 1,2&3 are.

Anything they do watch is via an app.

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My 16 year old hasn’t watch a “live” telly programme for as long as I can remember, nor my 10 year old girl.

Apart from sport.

The pair of them are fucking glued to their phones/tablets.

My lad - and his mates - all wander about everywhere with one earphone wedged in their lugholes. They seem able to listen to YouTube whilst also talking to their mates. They’re like Apache pilots or summert.

 

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1 hour ago, gonzo said:

My kids barely watch telly. Eldest (12) does a few films here and there but its 80% phone, tablet and his comp.

My youngest whos 9 never does. Phone, Xbox and tablet.

Neither of them know what channels 1,2&3 are.

Anything they do watch is via an app.

To be honest I just thought manc reply was funny.

All I know is we use TVRs (https://www.marketingiq.co.uk/what-is-a-tvr/) when booking TV ads which gives a reasonable breakdown and if you want any younger audiences you might as well throw your money into the sea, whereas 45 plus (especially those from B2/C) you are golden if you have the money.

My mates 8 year old lad, never watches TV, everything is in his tablet, I think he and the tablet have "become one" as its permanently attached to him. He watches some real shit as well, like watching other people playing Mario kart, or I think I caught him once watching kids opening their Christmas presents. It's all very odd

1 hour ago, Spider said:

My 16 year old hasn’t watch a “live” telly programme for as long as I can remember, nor my 10 year old girl.

Apart from sport.

The pair of them are fucking glued to their phones/tablets.

My lad - and his mates - all wander about everywhere with one earphone wedged in their lugholes. They seem able to listen to YouTube whilst also talking to their mates. They’re like Apache pilots or summert.

 

To be honest I wish they did watch more linear TV, it'd make my job a lot easier. 10 years ago, book an out of home campaign, national print ads, TV ad, radio slots, thanks very much off to the pub.

Now with digital being so reactive and granular you spend days with half the spend. Not to mention its not just image and trailer now, you have to have so many other assets as the drop off if you don't refresh the content after a certain amount of impressions you are again wasting money.

I tell you, working my poor old fingers to the bone 😁

Daughter watches TV but it's all netflix, YouTube and Disney plus

Used to watch cbeebies "live" occasionally but then most of the time was on demand via iPlayer 

Can't remember the last time anyone in our house watched a scheduled program on a channel 

We record most stuff and play it back when it suits. Can also fast track the adverts that way.

For linear TV we watch Saturday Kitchen, Newsnight and Question Time, oh and I'll be tuning in for the Kussenburg doc tomorrow.

And we also put BBC news channel on in the background if one of us is working downstairs.

 

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24 minutes ago, Not in Crawley said:

To be honest I wish they did watch more linear TV, it'd make my job a lot easier. 10 years ago, book an out of home campaign, national print ads, TV ad, radio slots, thanks very much off to the pub.

Now with digital being so reactive and granular you spend days with half the spend. Not to mention its not just image and trailer now, you have to have so many other assets as the drop off if you don't refresh the content after a certain amount of impressions you are again wasting money.

I tell you, working my poor old fingers to the bone 😁

Good

My kids are annoying you and this makes me happy.

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