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Been given the full 5,000. First Saturday 3pm away game of the season

We could lose every game from now till January and still have a chance of the play offs in this shit cunting division.

49 minutes ago, 1969 said:

Wow, what a load of bollocks 

He's had 3 games with his players and you expect us to be firing on all cylinders 

4 points from 3 games is pretty average. But certainly not a case for losing the plot.

The attacking positions are the main priority. Their goal yesterday whilst the centre halves did not do well the keeper is ‘more’ at fault, should not get beat like that. 
 

The 4 points is probably the least we deserved from the games, Stockport we were the better team for most of the games, Plymouth easyish win, Barnsley a pint was the least we deserved.

Bringing in a clinical striker or Dalby coming in all guns blazing might solve that but the ‘number 10’ role is a concern no one has grabbed it yet.

At the back, I wonder if the emergence of Conway means once Taylor is fit if he could play the left centre half role ? Never really seem him play but if he is fast enough to be considered at left back then surely can pace compared to Johnston ? He was signed and described as mainly a centre half. 

I think after 3 games more reasons to be cautiously optimistic than worried as do not think we are ‘firing on all cylinders’ but it has felt like that for about 18 months, never quite reaching our potential. 

Edited August 17, 2025Aug 17 by Ani

1 hour ago, 1969 said:

Wow, what a load of bollocks 

He's had 3 games with his players and you expect us to be firing on all cylinders 

So which bit is bollocks then?

Are you saying it’s not his team, his system etc?
Or are you saying he doesn’t need to get them firing in all departments asap?

Or are you saying that somewhere in your overactive imagination I said that I expected them to be doing it already? - which I didn’t.

If was as pedantic and unnecessarily argumentative as you I’d point out that he’s had the vast majority of the team throughout preseason, plus the league, and a cup game and he’s had many of them a lot longer than that I.e. last season and given that so far he’s only managed to win one game in every three I’d say that’s a fairly compelling argument for him to start producing results.

As promising as it looks on the surface,  he’s done next to fuck all for BWFC since he arrived results wise which is why I said that I hope he does it - for the club, for the fans and for himself.

2 hours ago, Wanderlust said:

And if we fail to win either? 
At this stage of the season I’m more hoping than expecting. I don’t think I could actually expect to beat any team until Schumacher irons out the problems.

We need some wins, the players need some wins and more than anyone, Schumacher needs some wins. Especially as he’s run out of ready made excuses.

It’s his team, his system and his tactics now so he needs to get them firing in all departments and quick. Honeymoon over. I really hope he does it.

You sound like you're ready and waiting to pounce on SS at the first opportunity 

1 hour ago, gonzo said:

We could lose every game from now till January and still have a chance of the play offs in this shit cunting division.

Thats a good description of this league 

33 minutes ago, Zico said:

You sound like you're ready and waiting to pounce on SS at the first opportunity 

No mate - I desperately want him to do well and win every game. Problem is we’re just not good enough yet and his record sucks, so SS will want to turn us into serial winners asap much as anyone - just not happened yet.

What I hear in his interviews is one thing after another about why it didn’t work out and that’s usually followed by a string of folk on here justifying with lists of other factors stretching back to IE that may or may not have had an impact.

I don’t want to listen to that drivel anymore. I want to hear Schuey come out after the match and say it was great, the plan came together, everyone played well and we fully deserved our win. 
 

But it’s down to him to make that happen, starting with Reading on Wednesday. If we happen to get served up a festival of sparkling attractive dominant football along the way, that would be a bonus, but start winning games and I’ll be happy with that.

And if he’s short of ideas on how to do it, there are thousands on here 😀

Edited August 17, 2025Aug 17 by Wanderlust

I think we all want that. 

3 games in though, is too soon to judge.

If, 10-15 games in, it's a set of inconsistent results, without that requisite improvement, then fair enough. 

I'm yet to be convinced by our set up/players, flexibility etc, but it is too soon to boot off about it.

10 minutes ago, Wanderlust said:

No mate - I desperately want him to do well and win every game. Problem is we’re just not good enough yet and his record sucks, so SS will want to turn us into serial winners asap much as anyone - just not happened yet.

What I hear in his interviews is one thing after another about why it didn’t work out and that’s usually followed by a string of folk on here justifying with lists of other factors stretching back to IE that may or may not have had an impact.

I don’t want to listen to that drivel anymore. I want to hear Schuey come out after the match and say it was great, the plan came together, everyone played well and we fully deserved our win. 
 

But it’s down to him to make that happen, starting with Reading on Wednesday. If we happen to get served up a festival of sparkling attractive dominant football along the way, that would be a bonus, but start winning games and I’ll be happy with that.

And if he’s short of ideas on how to do it, there are thousands on here 😀

I genuinely think he watches the same match I watched after his pressers. I don’t think he sugar coats anything. 

We've seen enough to be excited and enough to be concerned.

The center back pairing trouble me.

The number 10 role troubles me.

The rest is fine imo.

I'm certain there's enough goals in the wingers and Bairstow/Dalby to make an assault.

 

 

3 minutes ago, gonzo said:

We've seen enough to be excited and enough to be concerned.

The center back pairing trouble me.

The number 10 role troubles me.

The rest is fine imo.

I'm certain there's enough goals in the wingers and Bairstow/Dalby to make an assault.

 

 

I'd like to see our wingers going both ways to keep the defenders guessing.

Burstow summed it up perfectly when set up by CD going on the outside.

Seems that they like to come in (or are told to) more often than go wide. Will see them scoring a few no doubt, but may also slow down attacks and waste opportunities to get strikers in on goal.

Debutant yesterday may do that a bit more.

Loads of time for it all to develop though. 

50 minutes ago, Wanderlust said:

No mate - I desperately want him to do well and win every game. Problem is we’re just not good enough yet and his record sucks, so SS will want to turn us into serial winners asap much as anyone - just not happened yet.

What I hear in his interviews is one thing after another about why it didn’t work out and that’s usually followed by a string of folk on here justifying with lists of other factors stretching back to IE that may or may not have had an impact.

I don’t want to listen to that drivel anymore. I want to hear Schuey come out after the match and say it was great, the plan came together, everyone played well and we fully deserved our win. 
 

But it’s down to him to make that happen, starting with Reading on Wednesday. If we happen to get served up a festival of sparkling attractive dominant football along the way, that would be a bonus, but start winning games and I’ll be happy with that.

And if he’s short of ideas on how to do it, there are thousands on here 😀

I just think it's far too early to be concerned 

I'm very enthused so far with two new signings yet to play and potentially more in before the end of the month 

Once we got into our stride we'll be fine 

27 minutes ago, tomski said:

I genuinely think he watches the same match I watched after his pressers. I don’t think he sugar coats anything. 

I agree by and large, although whilst he is quick to say “we didn’t do this or that well enough” or point out individual errors, he never questions his own tactics or player selection. And yet these pages are full of criticisms of his team choices and system so the armchair managers amongst us feel there are things he could do better. And if we didn’t do this or that well, surely he should be saying that “these are some of the things that we need to work harder on in training” rather than making statements that by implication lay the blame at the door of the players for underperforming.
My own view on this is that I like what he’s trying to do, and when it clicks it will be brilliant but…Evatt’s downfall was trying to play like Barca with League 1 standard players and to quote his critics “well he signed them to play his system so putting it down to the players is no excuse”. Fair criticism IMO. But surely the same criteria have to be applied to Schumacher? 
I’m glad he has confidence in his methods and tactics but ultimately he will live or die by results - and they have to improve. And he knows it.

23 minutes ago, gonzo said:

We've seen enough to be excited and enough to be concerned.

The center back pairing trouble me.

The number 10 role troubles me.

The rest is fine imo.

I'm certain there's enough goals in the wingers and Bairstow/Dalby to make an assault.

 

 

I must add right back to that list.

57 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

I think we all want that. 

3 games in though, is too soon to judge.

If, 10-15 games in, it's a set of inconsistent results, without that requisite improvement, then fair enough. 

I'm yet to be convinced by our set up/players, flexibility etc, but it is too soon to boot off about it.

Nobody is “booting off” about it and nobody will if we start winning. It’s just that we have to start winning so Schuey has a lot of work to do.

Very surprised how low the crowd was yesterday. Under 10k from Barnsley, in previous years the 2 blocks nearest our end to the left have been their ‘crazy corner’ but empty yesterday. 

6 minutes ago, Ani said:

Very surprised how low the crowd was yesterday. Under 10k from Barnsley, in previous years the 2 blocks nearest our end to the left have been their ‘crazy corner’ but empty yesterday. 

…especially as they’d won their first two.

8 minutes ago, Wanderlust said:

I agree by and large, although whilst he is quick to say “we didn’t do this or that well enough” or point out individual errors, he never questions his own tactics or player selection. And yet these pages are full of criticisms of his team choices and system so the armchair managers amongst us feel there are things he could do better. And if we didn’t do this or that well, surely he should be saying that “these are some of the things that we need to work harder on in training” rather than making statements that by implication lay the blame at the door of the players for underperforming.
My own view on this is that I like what he’s trying to do, and when it clicks it will be brilliant but…Evatt’s downfall was trying to play like Barca with League 1 standard players and to quote his critics “well he signed them to play his system so putting it down to the players is no excuse”. Fair criticism IMO. But surely the same criteria have to be applied to Schumacher? 
I’m glad he has confidence in his methods and tactics but ultimately he will live or die by results - and they have to improve. And he knows it.

The pretty obvious difference between Evatt and SS is that the criticism came to event after multiple transfer windows. 9 of the 16 players used yesterday were not bought in by SS so you can not judge by the same criteria.

 

16 minutes ago, Wanderlust said:

Nobody is “booting off” about it and nobody will if we start winning. It’s just that we have to start winning so Schuey has a lot of work to do.

Phrase it how you want, but your comments were somewhat premature I reckon.

 

34 minutes ago, Rival Son said:

I must add right back to that list.

I think Cogley is just fine tbf.

Tutu doesn't convince me there though.

I reckon we beat Reading and Lincoln then properly turn up at Blackpool for once and we'll all dance our way back to the station after.

14 minutes ago, tshape said:

I reckon we beat Reading and Lincoln then properly turn up at Blackpool for once and we'll all dance our way back to the station after.

I’ll have a pint of what you’re drinking, please 👍

10 hours ago, paulhanley said:

When the fixtures came out in June I imagine we all looked at those first three and thought we'd been dealt a tough start. As such a return of four points is decent

Exactly where I'm at

1 hour ago, Wanderlust said:

I agree by and large, although whilst he is quick to say “we didn’t do this or that well enough” or point out individual errors, he never questions his own tactics or player selection. And yet these pages are full of criticisms of his team choices and system so the armchair managers amongst us feel there are things he could do better. And if we didn’t do this or that well, surely he should be saying that “these are some of the things that we need to work harder on in training” rather than making statements that by implication lay the blame at the door of the players for underperforming.
My own view on this is that I like what he’s trying to do, and when it clicks it will be brilliant but…Evatt’s downfall was trying to play like Barca with League 1 standard players and to quote his critics “well he signed them to play his system so putting it down to the players is no excuse”. Fair criticism IMO. But surely the same criteria have to be applied to Schumacher? 
I’m glad he has confidence in his methods and tactics but ultimately he will live or die by results - and they have to improve. And he knows it.

My take is he’s not even had one window. Agree with you it looks exciting what he’s trying to achieve. He’s also proven at this level and has shown he won’t live or die by a style of football that the players can’t achieve. Personally anyone questioning this in a few months is bonkers. 
 

Im getting a whiff of Rioch (Collins and TP in mind) of him building something better than just going up. I personally think it’s exciting times ahead. He’s making the big calls.

1 hour ago, gonzo said:

I think Cogley is just fine tbf.

Tutu doesn't convince me there though.

Was poor yesterday mate. 

2 minutes ago, W.cramp said:

Was poor yesterday mate. 

He wasn't poor at all.