Away Form

[gonzo]

34 minutes ago, Wanderlust said:

Re bookies odds: Bookies always shorten the odds on the best supported teams as statistically they are likely to get more fan bets on them which equals risk. That’s why you see massively different odds in different countries for international games especially England who get bigged up massively in the UK but much longer odds elsewhere. We are well supported as this league goes so naturally we get shorter odds.

Re Away form table: I struggle to understand how basic sports psychology fails to deal with any perceived disadvantage, especially in our case where our team is very well supported away from home anyway. Different pitches and travel may have some impact but ultimately it’s about churning out good performances 11 v 11 and professionals should be able to focus on that. I think our away problems have stemmed from lapses in concentration and the fact that this league, this year is very tight indeed and any team can beat any other on their day. Ultimately it’s our performances.

Word Salad.

[bwfc2003]

On 07/12/2025 at 14:55, Ani said:

I feel sorry for lads who do away games with me. Every game ‘the fucking 2 in midfield does not work.’

 

We have played well in some away games but equally 4 of those points have come from injury time goals, 1 at Orient and 3 at Huddersfield 

You get the same number of points for injury time goals though!! and one hell of a buzz

[Zico]

1 hour ago, L/H White said:

Only one table worth looking at

Looking better today with that gap beneath but shows why we need to get more points on the road if we want that second spot 

Cardiff look like they're going to grind out their way to the title 

We can blow teams away at home on day 

We need to find our way on the road

Because we won't win every home game 

[Ani]

34 minutes ago, bwfc2003 said:

You get the same number of points for injury time goals though!! and one hell of a buzz

The buzz makes them miles better, the second half and support at Huddersfield was brilliant. 
My point really is that ‘we are where we are ‘ and blaming it on luck , good or bad is irrelevant. We need to improve our away form and grinding out 3 points on a wet windy December night is Mansfield is what teams wanting to win promotion need to do. 

[gonzo]

Anyone remember how we played v Southend under Parky?

Or any single game the season we went up under Evatt

[Wanderlust]

4 hours ago, gonzo said:

Word Salad.

Sad raw old 

[gonzo]

...Yeah but we didn't score enough goals v Mansfield 

[L/H White]

[gonzo]

3 points of autos in December and top of the form table.

2nd best goal difference. 2nd most goals scored and 2nd least conceded.

Unbeaten at home and smashed Wigan along the way.

We'd have all taken that in August. 

 

[Eddie]

4 minutes ago, gonzo said:

3 points of autos in December and top of the form table.

2nd best goal difference. 2nd most goals scored and 2nd least conceded.

Unbeaten at home and smashed Wigan along the way.

We'd have all taken that in August. 

 

And a run of 6 games now where we really should be picking up 13-15 points

 

(I know it’s not as simple as that but it’s as favourable a run of fixtures as you’re going to get)

[Zico]

34 minutes ago, Eddie said:

And a run of 6 games now where we really should be picking up 13-15 points

 

(I know it’s not as simple as that but it’s as favourable a run of fixtures as you’re going to get)

I'd be happy with a point at Wycombe but really should be looking to win the rest

[Eddie]

45 minutes ago, Zico said:

I'd be happy with a point at Wycombe but really should be looking to win the rest

To be fair, that’s how I saw it and I think we will - I just thought there might be a fuck up somewhere (Donny away?) and so putting 16 points was a bit punchy.

Saying that, we then go into a run of 3 tough away games at Posh, Wigan and Stevenage so we could really do with getting a good amount in the next 6.

[desperado]

Can we say this isn’t an issue now?

Last 6 games.

Won 3

Drawn 3 

[jmjhb]

5th best in the league

[Tonge moor green jacket]

19 minutes ago, desperado said:

Can we say this isn’t an issue now?

Last 6 games.

Won 3

Drawn 3 

Lincoln won 5, drawn 1.

Bummer.

 

[desperado]

1 minute ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Lincoln won 5, drawn 1.

Bummer.

 

Oh aye, I don’t dispute there’s better and fair play to Lincoln, they look untouchable at the moment, home and away.

But the point I’m making is that it’s a good turnaround from last year. It was looking like a real issue.

Do you think it is now?

[Tonge moor green jacket]

6 minutes ago, desperado said:

Oh aye, I don’t dispute there’s better and fair play to Lincoln, they look untouchable at the moment, home and away.

But the point I’m making is that it’s a good turnaround from last year. It was looking like a real issue.

Do you think it is now?

Aye, I know what your point is.

Just being somewhat facetious.

Unfortunately, is doesn't appear likely to be enough for direct promotion, so just have to keep at it home and away to be there just in case.

Results at Bradford and Cardiff would give them a massive boost going into the playoffs.

Play offs are always a bit of a lottery too, irrespective of form.

[Rival Son]

[Tonge moor green jacket]

Crikey- 5 of those 18 goals came today!

[boltonboris]

34 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Crikey- 5 of those 18 goals came today!

Yep. Goals have been our problem. But it’s the defence everyone wants to pick apart. The defence has generally secured the points that our attackers were failing to secure 

[desperado]

4 minutes ago, boltonboris said:

Yep. Goals have been our problem. But it’s the defence everyone wants to pick apart. The defence has generally secured the points that our attackers were failing to secure 

We are so hard to read aren’t we.

Our attack have looked pretty good all season but (until today) just can’t click and put our chances away.

Our defence, to watch at every week, doesn’t look great and we can be highly critical week on week, yet have one of the best records in the league 😂

[boltonboris]

5 minutes ago, desperado said:

We are so hard to read aren’t we.

Our attack have looked pretty good all season but (until today) just can’t click and put our chances away.

Our defence, to watch at every week, doesn’t look great and we can be highly critical week on week, yet have one of the best records in the league 😂

You’re absolutely right. 
 

I come away from games thinking we teams score against us with almost every chance they have, but we take a million chances to score. As ever with extremes, the answer is somewhere in the middle. 
 

We limit good chances because we generally defend well. Not just the back 4.  But as a team. 
 

However I do think we have a few issues resulting in our team that sees us concede more goal than the xG against us suggests (and less goals for that our xG suggests at the other end). What that is, I’m not sure. There’ll be additional data to deep dive into, but I can’t be arsed doing that. I trust my eyes and my eyes tell me the defence is ‘alright’ 😉

[Tonge moor green jacket]

Second fewest goals conceded.

[L/H White]

5th best in the league now, so yeah definitely turned it around. 

Fairplay to them. 

[Tonge moor green jacket]

24 minutes ago, L/H White said:

5th best in the league now, so yeah definitely turned it around. 

Fairplay to them. 

Huge ask, but wins at Bradford and Cardiff would be fantastic and we'd all be confident come the playoffs. 

As a previous post, Cardiff could be up by then, although unlikely, which could see them on the beach.