Still ?36 for a category A+ game in the away upper tier! Can't see the away end being any fuller than it was last season which is what boosted our attendance.

 

Hopefully, our season ticket sales better last season's final figure but I doubt it.

 

Having said that, sooner have genuine fans in the ground to create a better atmosphere!

 

 

"Wanderers have frozen matchday ticket prices for the new season.

 

The club has announced that all four of their matchday pricing categories will stay the same as last season.

 

Supporters will be able to watch the Wanderers, who were the first Premier League outfit to reduce season ticket prices for the new campaign, at the Reebok from ?21 next season, while children will pay from only ?10.

 

Bolton have also revamped their club membership scheme to offer great savings on home match tickets. For further information please call the ticket and membership office on 0871 871 2932"

it is like shopping in sainsburys and complaing the heinz beans are more expensive than asda.

They're actually the same price according to www.mysupermarket.co.uk

 

And they're called Beanz nowadays.

If a club charges ?15 per game and attracts 30,000 the gate receipts are ?450,000. If a club charges ?25 per game and attracts a crowd of 18,000, gate receipts are still ?450,000. The difference is that an extra 12,000 on the gate will spend more money on food, drink, programmes, merchandise, etc, so the total income is greater.

 

not sure it's as black and white as that

 

however

 

on current prices we averaged what last season, let's say for arguments sake around 22/23000, from a quick glance at last year's attendances that would appear to be about right

 

now

 

your logic suggests that if we reduce the tickets by a certain amount the gates will rise - so to get the extra 5/6000 in to fill the ground, tickets should be reduced by lets say ?10 on average

 

again, am plucking figures out the air here but the general consensus is cheaper tickets = bigger crowds

 

that'll do it then

 

however, as mentioned already, the ticket price is one of many excuses/reasons why people choose not to go

 

can the club really risk losing money on gate receipts to satisfy one or two disgruntled fans

 

the fact that we got 22,357 for Charlton at home and 24,919 for Fulham at home, when tickets were ?5 would suggest otherwise

 

Charlton was midweek and it was raining

 

Fulham was early kick off on a Sunday and on TV

Not neccessarily, that's why i used the word 'IF'. It's an example see? How the fcuk should i know how many will turn up!

 

 

Exactly!!! Then why do people (not just yourself) assume that by tweaking prices that full house would occur. Its much more complexed than people seem to think. As previously stated why should we expect crowds in excess of 20k-23k, when history shows us thats our around our level.

It was just an example. I know it's not quite that simple but i was just trying to illustrate the point that lower ticket prices doesn't necessarily mean lower income.

 

 

i get the point you are making, like my example without real figures it is hard to work out what is best.

 

but if we have a capacity of 27,500 like traf says. Our average attendance must be nearer 22 than 21 .

 

so we are at 80% of capacity on average,, so if you cut prices by more than 25% you are losing money.

 

if you cut prices by less than 25% will people come flooding back ?

 

given a lot of away teams do nt sell out the case is even more difficult to make.

Edited July 18, 200719 yr by Ani

the fact that we got 22,357 for Charlton at home and 24,919 for Fulham at home, when tickets were ?5 would suggest otherwise

 

Charlton was midweek and it was raining

 

Fulham was early kick off on a Sunday and on TV

 

Obtaining these tickets was easier said than done, they had to be purchased by an existing season ticket holder, they weren't on general sale.

Obtaining these tickets was easier said than done, they had to be purchased by an existing season ticket holder, they weren't on general sale.

 

fair dos, forgot about that

 

still

 

2500 more turned out for a sunday match on tv than a midweek match not on tv - the away followings were prob about the same if i remember right, neither brought more than 3/400)

 

which would suggest that aside from ticket prices there are always other reasons as to why people will not / cannot attend

 

so reducing ticket prices by a significant amount is probably not in the best interests of BWFC with respects income and filling the ground as it guarantees nothing

And with the prices staying the same - away followings will be p?ss poor again - which in turn affects that legendary Rebook noise ::::::::::

I sit in the Upper Tier and I agree entirely

I sit on Row EE (quite low down) and the view is very good. I do sit about the edge of the penalty area though - some clubs like Blackburn charge less for views closer to the corners.

 

As a comparison the equivalent ticket (cyan) at Blackburn is ?349 but central it's ?399. They don't differentiate between upper/lower tiers.

 

Exactly!!! Then why do people (not just yourself) assume that by tweaking prices that full house would occur. Its much more complexed than people seem to think. As previously stated why should we expect crowds in excess of 20k-23k, when history shows us thats our around our level.

 

O.K. I'll try to explain again. There are additional forms of income for the club on match days. If ticket prices are reduced and more people turn up then the club will probably take more money on food, drink, etc, etc. So reducing ticket prices doesn't neccessarily mean a loss of income. As for how much you can reduce the prices by to attract more supporters before the money lost on gate receipts outweighs the extra income gained on food, drink etc, your guess is as good as mine! Like i said the figures i gave are just an example.

And with the prices staying the same - away followings will be p?ss poor again - which in turn affects that legendary Rebook noise ::::::::::::

 

Can't say i'm too concerned about the away support really. Someone else said it before, those who wanted to follow their team away would do, whether prices were cheaper or not.

 

Its only the local games that this affects really, City, Wigan, Jackburn & Everton. The Munichs and Murderers usually sell out.

Can't say i'm too concerned about the away support really. Someone else said it before, those who wanted to follow their team away would do, whether prices were cheaper or not.

 

Its only the local games that this affects really, City, Wigan, Jackburn & Everton. The Munichs and Murderers usually sell out.

 

Still think that we should reduce prices for teams that have reduced prices for our supporters. Should be ?15 each for Blackburn and Wigan supporters at the Reebok next season if they do the same for us again.

O.K. I'll try to explain again. There are additional forms of income for the club on match days. If ticket prices are reduced and more people turn up then the club will probably take more money on food, drink, etc, etc. So reducing ticket prices doesn't neccessarily mean a loss of income. As for how much you can reduce the prices by to attract more supporters before the money lost on gate receipts outweighs the extra income gained on food, drink etc, your guess is as good as mine! Like i said the figures i gave are just an example.

 

 

The difference we are talking about is about 2000-5000 fans depending on opponents. We've already established that dropping prices isn't a sure fire way of getting those supporters back. So why should the club risk losing revenue? Your assumption is that more fans means more cash at the kiosks etc, but what are you basing this on. The gain in Kiosk & Programme cash might be only a fraction of that of the loss of actual ticket revenue. I honestly don't think slashing prices would lead to much bigger crowds and certainly not booming business at the kiosks.

Edited July 18, 200719 yr by jimmyjoojar

Still think that we should reduce prices for teams that have reduced prices for our supporters. Should be ?15 each for Blackburn and Wigan supporters at the Reebok next season if they do the same for us again.

 

 

I agree!

O.K. I'll try to explain again. There are additional forms of income for the club on match days. If ticket prices are reduced and more people turn up then the club will probably take more money on food, drink, etc, etc. So reducing ticket prices doesn't neccessarily mean a loss of income. As for how much you can reduce the prices by to attract more supporters before the money lost on gate receipts outweighs the extra income gained on food, drink etc, your guess is as good as mine! Like i said the figures i gave are just an example.

 

bigger crowds = bigger queues = more people inclined not to bother = kiosk sales down (on top of reduced revenue from gates)

And with the prices staying the same - away followings will be p?ss poor again - which in turn affects that legendary Rebook noise ::::::::::::

 

cop out that, i'm afraid

 

as those that went to turkey could tell us

You're right, it will be a season without a sell-out, and do you know why? Because many so-called Bolton fans are moaning coonts!

 

Like Ani, I have a Dad and lad season ticket which works out at ?22 a game. Like Ani, I trail over from Leeds. So you miserable twots from Bromley X, Breightmet or Farnworth who 'can't' go because the Reebok is in Horwich can feck off. Satan and others travel much further than me. If fans wanted to go, they would go. Because many would rather spend the afternoon in the pub watching the game on dodgy and moaning about the lack of atmosphere, they use ticket pricing, location etc as their excuse not to go. If you don't want to go, just say so and spare us the bullshit. Bolton are one of the cheapest Prem clubs to watch by a mile, so don't use ticket prices as an excuse for being an armchair so-called supporter. You'll all find the money when we play Bayern Munich away in the UEFA, FACT!

 

I swear to god, we could sign Riquelme tomorrow and some on here would be moaning because they wanted Thierry Henry!

 

Rant over!

spot on

cop out that, i'm afraid

 

as those that went to turkey could tell us

 

i went to turkey........no leeds fans though !!!!!!!!!!

spot on

 

It isn't spot on at all, BWFC Plc is a business, if all their customers are moaning coonts then they need to address that. Failing to do so will cause the business to continue to struggle.

 

There are some great deals out there for kids and under 21's even, but for the average man in the street or casual supporter, tickets are both too expensive and sometimes ridiculously hard to obtain. BWFC Plc continues to fail to address these issues and attendances continue to fall.

 

There's a reason people will find the money for European games, that's because it's great value for money. The whole experience will be memorable, even if we fail to win. I can't even remember that Fulham game at end end of last season.

Edited July 18, 200719 yr by Carlos

tickets are both too expensive and sometimes ridiculously hard to obtain.

 

I'd agree with that. Fulham have a 'neutral' end where punters can pay ?20 on the day for the less attractive fixtures. You just turn up and get in, simple. None of this booking over the phone a week in advance bollocks.

Edited July 18, 200719 yr by trotter58

Still think that we should reduce prices for teams that have reduced prices for our supporters. Should be ?15 each for Blackburn and Wigan supporters at the Reebok next season if they do the same for us again.

You can't do this because Home fans/neutrals would want to go in the Away end instead of with the Home fans. I think it is against the fa rules anyway, I believe they would have to offer the same price for the Home fans.

Maybe I dreamt this, but aren't Chelsea starting to do summat to get the Shed back to being a bit more atmospheric??

Mind you, first time I saw the Shed in action was 1981 against Liverpool (mate who was a Liverpool came down when I was living in London at the time) and I'm not sure that day was the kind of action they now have in mind