Wanderers V Villa

[M G WHITES]

If for example i am a customer,and a regular one at that,and all of a sudden the whole criteria changes and new staff are brought in,suddenly i get bad customer service from the new staff,I no longer wish to give my cash to that business because it did not meet my expectations of previous staff members.not that i would suddenly run off and use the sevices of another business,just would not need to have this business in my life until customer friendly personnel were brought in.

 

FFS,chiil the fcuk out,Jesus,it Bolton Wanderers not bastard Real Madrid,

 

as a Bolton fan you take the rough with the smooth if you dont like it tough shit.

[ph31]

Overall this season has been better than last season, in terms of results and performances therefore I dont think it can be questioned that we are moving forward under Megson. However much you disagreed with his appointment its time to accept he's doing alright.

[tyldesley_white]

FFS,chiil the fcuk out,Jesus,it Bolton Wanderers not bastard Real Madrid,

 

as a Bolton fan you take the rough with the smooth if you dont like it tough shit.

 

And over the years I watched them its been more rough then smooth I can tell you

[Casino]

To be fair i do respect the opinions,and thoughts of other people,however to be slagged off for having a differing opinion to the majority on here is mindless at best.In my opinon the football served up by Megson is dire,and I for one cannot see how he has the ability to become a good premiership manager,the qualities that are required at this level are just not there,and you can all shout from the rooftops about stability,yes but at the cost of entertainment.So sorry for having differing views but i will pay not a penny to watch this anymore.

 

 

go on then

 

i'm all ears

 

what are these qualities that he doesn't have

[MickyD]

Let's start off with a list of qualities he needs for the job.

 

 

UEFA Pro coaches badge or whatever the fck it's called. CHECK

 

An ability to pick a side CHECK

 

That's all the boxes checked as far as I can see. Any others?

[DeanoH]

Overall this season has been better than last season, in terms of results and performances therefore I dont think it can be questioned that we are moving forward under Megson. However much you disagreed with his appointment its time to accept he's doing alright.

 

I suggest that if you look at the points we've accumulated under Megson this season compared to the 28 matches he managed last year, it's a lower amount of points to games ratio. Very disappointing when you consider he's spent ?8m on a striker, had a pre-season to get his methods across to the players, and not had the mess he inherited from Sammy Lee to contend with. I don't see any improvement whatsoever , just a marginal decline .

Edited April 26, 2009 by DeanoH

[alibob]

1. You don't know me so I don't get how you can decide on my family values from looking at a picture of a laughing pig.

 

 

I'm not saying my laptop is crap but I didn't even know the pig moved until I borrowed Rich's laptop and saw it laughing away.

Just so you know!

[Traf]

I'm not saying my laptop is crap but I didn't even know the pig moved until I borrowed Rich's laptop and saw it laughing away.

Just so you know!

 

And does your pussy move?

[Carlos]

Very disappointing when you consider he's spent ?8m on a striker

 

?8m is nob all for a striker these days.

[THunter]

I'm not saying my laptop is crap but I didn't even know the pig moved until I borrowed Rich's laptop and saw it laughing away.

Just so you know!

It's laughing? I thought it was having a fit.

[martinbwfc]

Let's start off with a list of qualities he needs for the job.

 

 

UEFA Pro coaches badge or whatever the fck it's called. CHECK

 

An ability to pick a side CHECK

 

That's all the boxes checked as far as I can see. Any others?

Lets not forget having the ability to change a game i.e sensible subs when required cannot CHECK that 1

Picking form players and not out of form players to justify their fees cannot CHECK that 1

The knowledge to realise 11 men back for set pieces does not work cannot CHECK that1

And as for the ability to pick a team refer to line 2

 

 

 

So in my opinion he has not got the qualities to be a premiership manager and never will have.The only hope we have is that W.B.A come sniffing PLEASE DO WEST BROM.

[Carlos]

Lets not forget having the ability to change a game i.e sensible subs when required cannot CHECK that 1

Picking form players and not out of form players to justify their fees cannot CHECK that 1

The knowledge to realise 11 men back for set pieces does not work cannot CHECK that1

And as for the ability to pick a team refer to line 2

 

 

 

So in my opinion he has not got the qualities to be a premiership manager and never will have.The only hope we have is that W.B.A come sniffing PLEASE DO WEST BROM.

 

I think it's only fair you list your achievements in the world of football, specifically management.

[tyldesley_white]

Lets not forget having the ability to change a game i.e sensible subs when required cannot CHECK that 1

Picking form players and not out of form players to justify their fees cannot CHECK that 1

The knowledge to realise 11 men back for set pieces does not work cannot CHECK that1

And as for the ability to pick a team refer to line 2

 

 

 

So in my opinion he has not got the qualities to be a premiership manager and never will have.The only hope we have is that W.B.A come sniffing PLEASE DO WEST BROM.

At this moment in time he better the 10 other managers (I've count 3 at the bar codes and 2 at pompy)

[martinbwfc]

I think it's only fair you list your achievements in the world of football, specifically management.

Oh dear that must rate 1 out of 10 in terms of football debate,and I give you 1 because you are obviously a moderator on here,if this forum is to be taken seriously you have to come up with better ripostes than this.For instance explain to us non believers why Megson is the best man for the job

[bolty58]

At this moment in time he better the 10 other managers (I've count 3 at the bar codes and 2 at pompy)

 

 

 

Megson or Martin?

[Traf]

Oh dear that must rate 1 out of 10 in terms of football debate,and I give you 1 because you are obviously a moderator on here,if this forum is to be taken seriously you have to come up with better ripostes than this.For instance explain to us non believers why Megson is the best man for the job

 

I can't claim to speak on behalf of Carlos, but I'm not sure that he actually claimed that Megson was the best man for the job.

[Casino]

Lets not forget having the ability to change a game i.e sensible subs when required cannot CHECK that 1

Picking form players and not out of form players to justify their fees cannot CHECK that 1

The knowledge to realise 11 men back for set pieces does not work cannot CHECK that1

And as for the ability to pick a team refer to line 2

 

contrary to what playing a couple of computer games may have you believe, chucking a sub on does not 'change games' if yon sub aint owt special

 

ffs, its not like he leaves ronaldo warming the bench

 

most folk would accept that he picks the team most of us would pick most weeks - not that it makes him right, just that theres rarely any glaring omisssions

 

we rarely concede from set puieces - therefore at best, you can't prove your point

 

at worst, youre completely wrong

 

 

and, to conclude, if you really think that those points 'are the job' its a bit longer at the pc for you

[Russell Sprout]

contrary to what playing a couple of computer games may have you believe, chucking a sub on does not 'change games' if yon sub aint owt special

 

ffs, its not like he leaves ronaldo warming the bench

 

most folk would accept that he picks the team most of us would pick most weeks - not that it makes him right, just that theres rarely any glaring omisssions

 

we rarely concede from set puieces - therefore at best, you can't prove your point

 

at worst, youre completely wrong

 

 

and, to conclude, if you really think that those points 'are the job' its a bit longer at the pc for you

Casino,I must disagree with you on the team selection. A lot of fans think Jussi hasnt been at his best this season and you could argue that Andy O'B, Elmander, Muamba and Steinsson have been lucky to get as many starts.

 

What I would agree on is that we have no world beaters on the bench but I wouldnt have had a problem in Megson playing Al Habsi, Smolarek, Basham, Puygrenier and Hunt.

 

Thats the beauty of football, we all think we can pick a better team.

[frank_spencer]

Casino,I must disagree with you on the team selection. A lot of fans think Jussi hasnt been at his best this season and you could argue that Andy O'B, Elmander, Muamba and Steinsson have been lucky to get as many starts.

 

What I would agree on is that we have no world beaters on the bench but I wouldnt have had a problem in Megson playing Al Habsi, Smolarek, Basham, Puygrenier and Hunt.

 

Thats the beauty of football, we all think we can pick a better team.

 

 

Seriously?

 

i would play peagreen instead of AOB though

[fruitbat69]

I thought we played OK against the Villa.

 

We were much more positive going forward.We conceded a goal with a fluke.I clapped the whites off at half time cos I thought the effort was there yet many wanderers booed from the ESL.

 

I would have taken a point before the game and we got a well earned point in the end.

 

AOB had a great game along Cahill and unlucky he went off with his injury.

 

We get a point against a top 6 team and GM can't get a compliment for a job well done.

 

Remember if we'd have turned half the losses into draws we would be fighting the hammers for 7th

[Ani]

Lets not forget having the ability to change a game i.e sensible subs when required cannot CHECK that 1

Picking form players and not out of form players to justify their fees cannot CHECK that 1

The knowledge to realise 11 men back for set pieces does not work cannot CHECK that1

And as for the ability to pick a team refer to line 2

 

 

 

So in my opinion he has not got the qualities to be a premiership manager and never will have.The only hope we have is that W.B.A come sniffing PLEASE DO WEST BROM.

 

change a game.............he chagned formation at half time on saturday.

form players.................would you bring makakula in because he scored 3 in the reserves?

11 men back......i would prefer us to leave someone up front, but how many goals have we conceded as a result of having 11 back?

 

you measure him on the overall package and results.....we are mid table, he is doing the job asked of him.

[Russell Sprout]

I thought we played OK against the Villa.

 

We were much more positive going forward.We conceded a goal with a fluke.I clapped the whites off at half time cos I thought the effort was there yet many wanderers booed from the ESL.

 

I would have taken a point before the game and we got a well earned point in the end.

 

AOB had a great game along Cahill and unlucky he went off with his injury.

 

We get a point against a top 6 team and GM can't get a compliment for a job well done.

 

Remember if we'd have turned half the losses into draws we would be fighting the hammers for 7th

 

There wasnt a lot of good football from either side but I clapped them off at half time too as we certainly didnt deserve to be a goal down.

 

Andy showed a lot of character to play that well, but he did owe us one. The point gained was the most important thing as 38 with our goal diff may be enough.

 

On a different note, and yes I know there is a thread somewhere, just watched the Big Match. I hadnt realised at that time the Embankment was so closed off. I was playing myself then so didnt get to Burnden that often in the 70s. What was the reason for it?

[Casino]

Casino,I must disagree with you on the team selection. A lot of fans think Jussi hasnt been at his best this season and you could argue that Andy O'B, Elmander, Muamba and Steinsson have been lucky to get as many starts.

 

What I would agree on is that we have no world beaters on the bench but I wouldnt have had a problem in Megson playing Al Habsi, Smolarek, Basham, Puygrenier and Hunt.

 

Thats the beauty of football, we all think we can pick a better team.

 

i'm not even discussing jussi - its a non starter

 

muamba is a kid who can only - and needs to - get better......if he hadn't cost so much, everybody would be much more tolerant of his failings (he's 21, which possibly sees him younger than both job and basham and neither can win the ball like him, and when you lose it as often as we do, you've got to win it back alot!)

 

aob - not a good season and not a player i like, but its either him or shittu - toss up, with shittu just winning it, for me

 

steinnson - well worth his place over the season - good for the team, plenty unfair stick for playing all the right side on his own

 

elmander - doesn't score as many as any of us would've hoped, but far better than owt else we've got to come in

 

as i say, if we had options, fair enough, be critical, but we aint....YET

[Carlos]

Oh dear that must rate 1 out of 10 in terms of football debate,and I give you 1 because you are obviously a moderator on here,if this forum is to be taken seriously you have to come up with better ripostes than this.For instance explain to us non believers why Megson is the best man for the job

 

It may come as somewhat of a surprise to you but I'm not here to be taken seriously and I couldn't give a flying fuck what you believe so have no interest in changing your opinion. I haven't really stated any opinions about the bloke, you have, I just want you to qualify what you've already stated. Do you have FIFA coaching badges or do you play FIFA 09 in your bedroom?

[Ani]

What annoys me about the anti megson brigade is that they challenge people to come up with anything positive he has done.

 

people respond and instantly become branded as 'pro-megson' the fact is he has done some decent things. as well as some stupid things

 

he will be judged by most rational people on results and at the moment he is doing ok (if people were expecting us to be top 8 this season then they will be disapointted but i was expecting a long season with not much to cheer about)

 

there are lots of things i wish he would do differently but overall he is ok.

 

elmander almost sums up megson, he has paid a lot of money for the guy but i do not see how he fits into our style of play, he is clearly lacking confidence but people getting on his back aint helping. at times he is totally isolated, start of second half with kev d alongside him he looked better, but we do not have the personnel to play 4 in midfield, we would need a genuine right sided player and a real engine in midfield, muamba looks like he could do a job in that sense, maybe with davies alongside him ( m not k).

 

if in 12 months we are having the same problems with the team i would be looking to get rid of him, but his job was 1 to keep us up, 2 to stabalise and start to build, and the next is to progress from here.

 

if along the way he shows just a slight glimmer that he is actually enjoying the job and appreciates the support he is getting from some sections of support that would be good too.