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2 minutes ago, paulhanley said:

THey had a real quality central defender called Dean Yates too. Just a better side. We weren't ready for the second tier. I reckon if we'd gone up with that team, or even the year after, we'd have struggled like hell to survive.

Anyway Notts had a bad day yesterday! Although I wanted them to win it.

I think they also had Craig Short alongside him at centre back . regardless of it being a local game for me  it's a real shame one of the League's founders is still a non League team.

13 minutes ago, dusan nikolic said:

I think they also had Craig Short alongside him at centre back . regardless of it being a local game for me  it's a real shame one of the League's founders is still a non League team.

Yep. Agreed. Suspect it won't be long before they are back.

1 hour ago, paulhanley said:

THat was the season after in 90/91. This is 89/90. I can remember this stuff. Ask me about fixtures from the last four or five years and I'm clueless.

89/90 was when we had a poor run in to the end of the season and then inexplicably beat Bristol City at home as they were heading for promotion. Greeny with a debut goal iirc.

It was us and Swansea I think, aiming for the last play off spot and their form dipped too. We drew in midweek at Burnden v Huddersfield but Swans lost.  Notts were a much better side than us though despite us having a really good go in that 2nd leg.

6 hours ago, Duck Egg said:

89/90 was when we had a poor run in to the end of the season and then inexplicably beat Bristol City at home as they were heading for promotion. Greeny with a debut goal iirc.

It was us and Swansea I think, aiming for the last play off spot and their form dipped too. We drew in midweek at Burnden v Huddersfield but Swans lost.  Notts were a much better side than us though despite us having a really good go in that 2nd leg.

That's pretty much memory of it all too....

15 hours ago, Duck Egg said:

89/90 was when we had a poor run in to the end of the season and then inexplicably beat Bristol City at home as they were heading for promotion. Greeny with a debut goal iirc.

It was us and Swansea I think, aiming for the last play off spot and their form dipped too. We drew in midweek at Burnden v Huddersfield but Swans lost.  Notts were a much better side than us though despite us having a really good go in that 2nd leg.

They were a really good side , they won promotion the following season with virtually the same side , bar a couple of players.

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Alan Kernahan.

Saw his name crop up on twitter. Honeslty have no recollection of this man playing for us but apparently he did so in 1994. 

Blow me down with a feather. 

loan signing from citie, played really well, but  cudn't afford him

Back to our Division 4 season in 1987/88. Despite the second defeat of the season at eventual promotion rivals Torquay we'd won 4 and drawn 2 of our first eight games and still looked likely promotion contenders. However the first home defeat of the season followed straight off the back of defeat at Plainmoor. Bolton 1 Hartlepool 2 was certainly a blow to the confidence of the fans. A great Mark Came set-piece header looked like setting us on the way to a routine home win but the away side replied with a free-kick goal of their own (crap Bolton wall) and then Robbie Savage lost possession and then compounded it by chasing a Hartlepool half the length of the pitch and bringing him down for a penalty that even the ever parisan Dave Higson had to admit was clear and obvious.

Won 4 Drawn 2 Lost 3 suddenly looked unconvincing after 4 wins in the first 6 games. All the doubts after the horrible 4-0 defeat at Scarborough in August came flooding back. 

 

5 minutes ago, paulhanley said:

Back to our Division 4 season in 1987/88. Despite the second defeat of the season at eventual promotion rivals Torquay we'd won 4 and drawn 2 of our first eight games and still looked likely promotion contenders. However the first home defeat of the season followed straight off the back of defeat at Plainmoor. Bolton 1 Hartlepool 2 was certainly a blow to the confidence of the fans. A great Mark Came set-piece header looked like setting us on the way to a routine home win but the away side replied with a free-kick goal of their own (crap Bolton wall) and then Robbie Savage lost possession and then compounded it by chasing a Hartlepool half the length of the pitch and bringing him down for a penalty that even the ever parisan Dave Higson had to admit was clear and obvious.

Won 4 Drawn 2 Lost 3 suddenly looked unconvincing after 4 wins in the first 6 games. All the doubts after the horrible 4-0 defeat at Scarborough in August came flooding back. 

 

"Oh my god almighty!"

A 1-2 Division 4 home defeat to Hartlepool in sunny late September has got "shall we just get off at half time and go pub?" written all over it.

5 minutes ago, Marc505 said:

"Oh my god almighty!"

A 1-2 Division 4 home defeat to Hartlepool in sunny late September has got "shall we just get off at half time and go pub?" written all over it.

I'm sure a few did! I can't remember how late Hartlepool's winner was though. Dave's reaction suggests pretty late on.

A lad called Brian Honour ripped us a new one that day

45 minutes ago, paulhanley said:

I'm sure a few did! I can't remember how late Hartlepool's winner was though. Dave's reaction suggests pretty late on.

It has a lazy Saturday run of the mill league game feel to it, one of them if you did leave at HT it would come as no surprise to hear we'd conceded late on!

On 08/08/2020 at 10:46, paulhanley said:

Back to our Division 4 season in 1987/88. Despite the second defeat of the season at eventual promotion rivals Torquay we'd won 4 and drawn 2 of our first eight games and still looked likely promotion contenders. However the first home defeat of the season followed straight off the back of defeat at Plainmoor. Bolton 1 Hartlepool 2 was certainly a blow to the confidence of the fans. A great Mark Came set-piece header looked like setting us on the way to a routine home win but the away side replied with a free-kick goal of their own (crap Bolton wall) and then Robbie Savage lost possession and then compounded it by chasing a Hartlepool half the length of the pitch and bringing him down for a penalty that even the ever parisan Dave Higson had to admit was clear and obvious.

Won 4 Drawn 2 Lost 3 suddenly looked unconvincing after 4 wins in the first 6 games. All the doubts after the horrible 4-0 defeat at Scarborough in August came flooding back. 

 

Thanks Paul , perhaps the Angriest I've ever heard Dave when Discussing the Bolton side , perhaps a realization it wasn't going to be a walk in the Park that season.

2 hours ago, dusan nikolic said:

Thanks Paul , perhaps the Angriest I've ever heard Dave when Discussing the Bolton side , perhaps a realization it wasn't going to be a walk in the Park that season.

There were one or two angry Dave moments in this season - the one that springs to mind is being 2-0 down at Rochdale, which he described as "degradation". Didn't stop him being like a kid at Christmas when we came back to 2-2. I've put that on You Tube already and I'll repost it on here when we get to that bit of the season. 

I'll get cracking with a post this weekend.

9 minutes ago, paulhanley said:

There were one or two angry Dave moments in this season - the one that springs to mind is being 2-0 down at Rochdale, which he described as "degradation". Didn't stop him being like a kid at Christmas when we came back to 2-2. I've put that on You Tube already and I'll repost it on here when we get to that bit of the season. 

I'll get cracking with a post this weekend.

Look forward to it , I think we have all been there slagging them off , only for them to pull it back , I remember at Stockport in Big Sam's Promotion season , me and a mate nearly coming to blows when we were 3-0 down , he started giving me right earache when we got back to 3-3 and then he stormed off when they made it 4-3 . 

2 hours ago, paulhanley said:

There were one or two angry Dave moments in this season - the one that springs to mind is being 2-0 down at Rochdale, which he described as "degradation". Didn't stop him being like a kid at Christmas when we came back to 2-2. I've put that on You Tube already and I'll repost it on here when we get to that bit of the season. 

I'll get cracking with a post this weekend.

Which year was the frt at stockport, poss scored 2 inthe last minute

A nice rendition of entry of the gladiators and send in the clowns

Think entwistle scored

1986 -   One of Paul's Previous Videos,  I think.

 

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4 minutes ago, dusan nikolic said:

1986

 

Limbs

Looks nowt like Edgeley Park though

On 12/08/2020 at 22:46, Casino said:

Which year was the frt at stockport, poss scored 2 inthe last minute

A nice rendition of entry of the gladiators and send in the clowns

Think entwistle scored

Aye Dusan posted it below. I've got that full game on video. It's a very, very difficult watch until those two very late goals!

After only one defeat in the first seven league games of Bolton 87/88 promotion winning campaign things were looking good. But two defeats at Torquay and then at home to Hartlepool brought us back down to earth. 

October started with games at home to eventual champions Wolves and away to Darlington who had been relegated with Bolton the previous season and where Bolton had won three league and cup games on the bounce in an era when away wins anywhere were rare. Both games are posted below.

Wins were required to get the promotion push back on course. Wolves came to Burnden with their supporters banned from travelling after several bouts of trouble - most memorably at Scarborough on the opening day of the season. With the match entering it's last 10 minutes and the score at 0-0 Derek Scott burst in to the box and drew a foul. John Thomas tucked away the penalty and a much-needed three points had been secured.

A solid performance was required the following Saturday at Feethams to back up that important win over Wolves. With the game entering its last minute at 0-0 a solid away point beckoned. However Darlington opened up the Bolton defence with a great move that even Dave Higson was purring about. It was one of the grim moments of the season. That Saturday night Bolton fans had three defeats from four to reflect upon and a record of Won 5 Drawn 2 Lost 4. Hardly promotion winning form. The season hung in the balance.

 

15 minutes ago, paulhanley said:

After only one defeat in the first seven league games of Bolton 87/88 promotion winning campaign things were looking good. But two defeats at Torquay and then at home to Hartlepool brought us back down to earth. 

October started with games at home to eventual champions Wolves and away to Darlington who had been relegated with Bolton the previous season and where Bolton had won three league and cup games on the bounce in an era when away wins anywhere were rare. Both games are posted below.

Wins were required to get the promotion push back on course. Wolves came to Burnden with their supporters banned from travelling after several bouts of trouble - most memorably at Scarborough on the opening day of the season. With the match entering it's last 10 minutes and the score at 0-0 Derek Scott burst in to the box and drew a foul. John Thomas tucked away the penalty and a much-needed three points had been secured.

A solid performance was required the following Saturday at Feethams to back up that important win over Wolves. With the game entering its last minute at 0-0 a solid away point beckoned. However Darlington opened up the Bolton defence with a great move that even Dave Higson was purring about. It was one of the grim moments of the season. That Saturday night Bolton fans had three defeats from four to reflect upon and a record of Won 5 Drawn 2 Lost 4. Hardly promotion winning form. The season hung in the balance.

 

Thanks Paul , always a welcome win over the other Wanderers , mind you 10 years before that who would have dreamt both these teams would have been in the basement division. 

The Darlington game looks to be another narrow defeat that seemed to stop us getting a head of steam up , I love the red away 80's shirts though.

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2 minutes ago, dusan nikolic said:

Thanks Paul , always a welcome win over the other Wanderers , mind you 10 years before that who would have dreamt both these teams would have been in the basement division. 

The Darlington game looks to be another narrow defeat that seemed to stop us getting a head of steam up , I love the red away 80's shirts though.

I wasn't at that Darlington game but remember the disappointment of hearing we'd lost in the last minute. We needed to stop the rot after that defeat and a good run did follow. However there were further phases of the season when we had similar dodgy spells. I guess that's the difference between finishing top like Wolves or scraping in to third on the last day like we did!

1 minute ago, paulhanley said:

I wasn't at that Darlington game but remember the disappointment of hearing we'd lost in the last minute. We needed to stop the rot after that defeat and a good run did follow. However there were further phases of the season when we had similar dodgy spells. I guess that's the difference between finishing top like Wolves or scraping in to third on the last day like we did!

I think Wolves lost in the Play offs the season before , so they had already had a season of doing reasonably well , also 2 goal machines up front helped.

 

3 minutes ago, dusan nikolic said:

I think Wolves lost in the Play offs the season before , so they had already had a season of doing reasonably well , also 2 goal machines up front helped.

 

Wolves went on and won Div 3 the following season - they were streets ahead of us in the late 1980s. Not just because of Bull and Mutch, they had one or two other good players too.

The goal celebrations back then are like consolation goals now. Players just get on with it

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