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1 minute ago, paulhanley said:

I thought they got surrounded at the Bradford Arms and came off worst. Remember seeing some of that from a distance. It went off under the Burnden Paddock in the home game too if memory serves, at half-time.

their arses went at the Bradford Arms, we had huge numbers. Yes, i recall it under the Paddock at half time, a lot of the Stag Head lads from Daubhill led the charge 😉 

2 minutes ago, miamiwhite said:

their arses went at the Bradford Arms, we had huge numbers. Yes, i recall it under the Paddock at half time, a lot of the Stag Head lads from Daubhill led the charge 😉 

It's noticeable when you watch that game from start to finish that there were some mouthy Burnley fans right up against the Paddock segregating fence in the first half and the coins were flying. Second half ... nowhere to be seen. 

I lived in Burnley for about four years in the second half of the 90s. Salt of the earth folk on the whole. 

1 minute ago, paulhanley said:

It's noticeable when you watch that game from start to finish that there were some mouthy Burnley fans right up against the Paddock segregating fence in the first half and the coins were flying. Second half ... nowhere to be seen. 

I lived in Burnley for about four years in the second half of the 90s. Salt of the earth folk on the whole. 

Yes, decent lads to be honest mate

2 minutes ago, paulhanley said:

It's noticeable when you watch that game from start to finish that there were some mouthy Burnley fans right up against the Paddock segregating fence in the first half and the coins were flying. Second half ... nowhere to be seen. 

I lived in Burnley for about four years in the second half of the 90s. Salt of the earth folk on the whole. 

The home game was lively,  I 've never seen so many cut heads it seemed the st John ambulance spent all the game escorting lads past me to be treated.

4 minutes ago, dusan nikolic said:

The home game was lively,  I 've never seen so many cut heads it seemed the st John ambulance spent all the game escorting lads past me to be treated.

It was following on from the away games. I don't recall it ever having been like that before with Burnley at Burnden and we played them three or four times at home in the 80s before that Fourth Division year. It was the first time they came and at least had a go.

 

5 minutes ago, paulhanley said:

It was following on from the away games. I don't recall it ever having been like that before with Burnley at Burnden and we played them three or four times at home in the 80s before that Fourth Division year. It was the first time they came and at least had a go.

 

Red hot day too , I think bank holiday weekend.

49 minutes ago, Duck Egg said:

I didn't go to the league game, no idea why.  After the cup game there were battles going on everywhere and it was a pretty intimidating journey back to the car.  The return match at Burnden was when they mobbed up at the Bradford Arms so perhaps they were encouraged from the earlier rucks?

Went to both. League crowd was smaller, 7000ish iirc.

Still a bit moody, but nowt like the previous week. That was a war zone afterwards. 

26 minutes ago, dusan nikolic said:

Red hot day too , I think bank holiday weekend.

It was Bank Holiday Monday. 

7 minutes ago, RONNIE PHILLIPS said:

It was Bank Holiday Monday. 

Cheers , I had an inkling it was one of them days.

8 minutes ago, RONNIE PHILLIPS said:

It was Bank Holiday Monday. 

Easter Monday mate, the loyal whites went to Orient 0n the Saturday 😉 

Am I right in thinking there were shenanigans in Burnley on the Friday night with Bolton before the cup tie?

19 minutes ago, miamiwhite said:

Easter Monday mate, the loyal whites went to Orient 0n the Saturday 😉 

I know it was Easter mate, its part of Bolton folklore 😁

1 hour ago, RONNIE PHILLIPS said:

I know it was Easter mate, its part of Bolton folklore 😁

Aye mate, we were at Orient, whilst you were preparing to play roly poly up Rivvy 😄 

1 hour ago, miamiwhite said:

Aye mate, we were at Orient, whilst you were preparing to play roly poly up Rivvy 😄 

Is that what they used to call dogging? 😁

More from our last Div 4 season in the next day or so. In the meantime here are highlights of a 2-1 defeat in the 1980/81 season at West Ham.

This game will have been posted on here before but these are more complete highlights. It's  fairly rare to see footage of Bolton in the first half of the 80s. This era is in the aftermath of relegation to Div 1 and it's a very experienced BWFC side with Len Cantello, Brian Kidd, Paul Jones, Mick Walsh, Peter Reid and Neil Whatmore. 

This season was the first of three Division 2 relegation battles.

 

Never heard that theme tune before

Not a patch on the 70s one

Had west ham won the cup and been relegated or did they win it from div 2?

1 hour ago, Casino said:

Had west ham won the cup and been relegated or did they win it from div 2?

They won it from Div 2

The game at Burnden finished 1-1. Massive brawl in the Manny Road North terrace.

 

Back to our 1987/88 season and sharing highlights of games in sequence. Last time I posted our 0-1 FA Cup win at Turf Moor - an eventful day on and off the pitch. The following week we played them there in the league. The outcome was not the one we wanted this time. The crowd was down by 3,000 and Nat Lofthouse and Burnley championship winner Tommy Cummings sought to address the sections of the ground where the volatile element stood before the game. The aim was to encourage about better behaviour than was on display the previous week. Both were shouted down from supporters of both sides in the Longside terrace. As Nat is waiting to be given the microphone he is wearing a grim expression.
 
After a goalless first half Burnley scored two quick goals half way through the second half with future Bolton player David Reeves scoring the second during a loan spell at Turf Moor. John Thomas bagged what proved to be Bolton's consolation. Six uneaten games ended in derby defeat and we'd won 9 drawn 4 lost 5 and missed a chance to go second. 
 
As a postscript, 13 years later Nat walked the around the track at Turf Moor during half time in a 0-2 Championship win in Big Sam's era. He was greeted warmly with queues of Clarets fans going to the front of their stand to shake his hand. I'm sure that opportunity was organised by those with long memories of the disrespectful events of November 1987 and showed Burnley fans in a light that was a much more accurate reflection of the way Burnley people are.

 

 

David Reeves with Burnley’s 2nd

Reeves, Comstive, Steve Taylor, Deakin.. Are you sure we didn't win 2-1?😁

On 13/09/2020 at 16:53, paulhanley said:

I'll post that league game as soon as I can. Quite a build up in the local media given the trouble there'd been. Did Burnley really get the better of it that day as their main man claimed in his book?

It  did I was there Bolton were in the duck and furkin and went down to the Bradford arms Burnley would not come out of the pub  the windows got smashed in the pub and under the burden stand the gates got smashed down with a large plank of wood used as a battering ram to get to the away end  . They weren’t keen to come out of the away end after the game 

1 hour ago, Farnywhite said:

It  did I was there Bolton were in the duck and furkin and went down to the Bradford arms Burnley would not come out of the pub  the windows got smashed in the pub and under the burden stand the gates got smashed down with a large plank of wood used as a battering ram to get to the away end  . They weren’t keen to come out of the away end after the game 

After the first away game it was rough as fuck, they were well organised with mobs on every side streets, thought Rovers fans were involved too and they were waiting at the top of the road after the game. 

1 hour ago, nantwichwhite said:

After the first away game it was rough as fuck, they were well organised with mobs on every side streets, thought Rovers fans were involved too and they were waiting at the top of the road after the game. 

It would be very unusual for Burnley and t’Rovers to be fighting alongside each other. They hate each other much more than either of them dislike us.

1 hour ago, nantwichwhite said:

After the first away game it was rough as fuck, they were well organised with mobs on every side streets, thought Rovers fans were involved too and they were waiting at the top of the road after the game. 

I was only a kid, it looked pretty much even to be honest. When the came up against a proper Bolton firm it didn't end well for them, but they did their usual trick and made sure the outnumbered any Bolton lads they came across. It is 30 odd years ago though, but that is my recolection

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