paulhanley Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 1 hour ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: That challenge on Coleman remains probably the most evil challenge I've seen by a professional footballer. Pretty evil. Didn't quite stop us going up though! In came Gudni... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulhanley Posted May 27, 2019 Share Posted May 27, 2019 Back to the sizzling summer of 1976. Bolton's third game of the 76/77 season was the tail end of August as the sun still shone. It was a season that ended in disappointment as for the second year on the run we narrowly missed out on promotion back to the top flight for the first time since the early 1960s. Early on at home to Millwall, we won 3-1 in front of the BBC cameras. Two of the lesser lights of 1970s Bolton Wanderers football scored - Steve Taylor (2) and Brian Smith with a freaky goal that was really a cross. You can hear the Millwall fans on this vid but they're never seen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miamiwhite Posted May 27, 2019 Share Posted May 27, 2019 18 minutes ago, paulhanley said: Back to the sizzling summer of 1976. Bolton's third game of the 76/77 season was the tail end of August as the sun still shone. It was a season that ended in disappointment as for the second year on the run we narrowly missed out on promotion back to the top flight for the first time since the early 1960s. Early on at home to Millwall, we won 3-1 in front of the BBC cameras. Two of the lesser lights of 1970s Bolton Wanderers football scored - Steve Taylor (2) and Brian Smith with a freaky goal that was really a cross. You can hear the Millwall fans on this vid but they're never seen. Superb stuff Paul, many thanks. Not seen that since being at the game as a kid and remembering Sweet FA about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulhanley Posted May 27, 2019 Share Posted May 27, 2019 6 minutes ago, miamiwhite said: Superb stuff Paul, many thanks. Not seen that since being at the game as a kid and remembering Sweet FA about it. I guess I was there too but too small to remember. My Dad was taking me on the Lever End from about 76 onwards. Why he'd do that with a five year old I've no idea!! Different days! One of my earliest memories of life was the riot against Chelsea near the end of 76/77! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter RONNIE PHILLIPS Posted May 27, 2019 Site Supporter Share Posted May 27, 2019 I remember nothing about the game but do remember Manny Rd afterwards 😊 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulhanley Posted May 27, 2019 Share Posted May 27, 2019 4 minutes ago, RONNIE PHILLIPS said: I remember nothing about the game but do remember Manny Rd afterwards 😊 Do elaborate because I was way too young to have been taking any notice! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter RONNIE PHILLIPS Posted May 27, 2019 Site Supporter Share Posted May 27, 2019 Millwall fans walked up middle of Manny Rd ( probably about 20 of them), Bolton fans either side but going nowhere near them until they reached the tech... Then a certain GH ( a Whitecroft lad) flew across & headbutted one of them to start the brawl. ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulhanley Posted May 27, 2019 Share Posted May 27, 2019 9 minutes ago, RONNIE PHILLIPS said: Millwall fans walked up middle of Manny Rd ( probably about 20 of them), Bolton fans either side but going nowhere near them until they reached the tech... Then a certain GH ( a Whitecroft lad) flew across & headbutted one of them to start the brawl. ) Unless someone can correct me, Millwall did nothing at Burnden on their 80s visits. Interesting to hear there was trouble in the 70s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bolton va va Posted May 27, 2019 Share Posted May 27, 2019 That Millwall game was brutal on Manny Rd. I think Millwall had just been promoted & everyone knew they were coming in big numbers & there was a huge Bolton mob waiting for them outside the Trotters & at the bottom of Trinity St. When the full trainload of them arrived, there was scuffling all the way to the ground down Manny Rd but the police just about kept control. After the game though, Bolton charged into them & Millwall were scattered all over Manny Rd & all the way back to the station. Some of them were game as fuck & tried to fight back but had no chance & quite a few others regretted turning up just in t-shirts with Millwall printed on them. In one of the hoolie books ( I know ) there is an account of it all from a Millwall fan who had it down as one of the worst days Millwall fans ever had. As someone who had been to Millwall before segregation & found it very scary, I had little sympathy for them !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulhanley Posted May 27, 2019 Share Posted May 27, 2019 8 minutes ago, bolton va va said: That Millwall game was brutal on Manny Rd. I think Millwall had just been promoted & everyone knew they were coming in big numbers & there was a huge Bolton mob waiting for them outside the Trotters & at the bottom of Trinity St. When the full trainload of them arrived, there was scuffling all the way to the ground down Manny Rd but the police just about kept control. After the game though, Bolton charged into them & Millwall were scattered all over Manny Rd & all the way back to the station. Some of them were game as fuck & tried to fight back but had no chance & quite a few others regretted turning up just in t-shirts with Millwall printed on them. In one of the hoolie books ( I know ) there is an account of it all from a Millwall fan who had it down as one of the worst days Millwall fans ever had. As someone who had been to Millwall before segregation & found it very scary, I had little sympathy for them !! Comprehensive account of the day, thanks! Can you remember where the Millwall fans were in the ground? I think this is the time when the Embankment and Lever End were both split in two by a fence. Those highlights are only a minute long. You never see the away fans, but you do hear them briefly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter RONNIE PHILLIPS Posted May 27, 2019 Site Supporter Share Posted May 27, 2019 17 minutes ago, bolton va va said: That Millwall game was brutal on Manny Rd. I think Millwall had just been promoted & everyone knew they were coming in big numbers & there was a huge Bolton mob waiting for them outside the Trotters & at the bottom of Trinity St. When the full trainload of them arrived, there was scuffling all the way to the ground down Manny Rd but the police just about kept control. After the game though, Bolton charged into them & Millwall were scattered all over Manny Rd & all the way back to the station. Some of them were game as fuck & tried to fight back but had no chance & quite a few others regretted turning up just in t-shirts with Millwall printed on them. In one of the hoolie books ( I know ) there is an account of it all from a Millwall fan who had it down as one of the worst days Millwall fans ever had. As someone who had been to Millwall before segregation & found it very scary, I had little sympathy for them !! Only being 14 I only really recollect the bit near the tech but do remember a few of that group of Millwall looked liked they'd already come a cropper earlier 😊 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bolton va va Posted May 27, 2019 Share Posted May 27, 2019 1 hour ago, paulhanley said: Comprehensive account of the day, thanks! Can you remember where the Millwall fans were in the ground? I think this is the time when the Embankment and Lever End were both split in two by a fence. Those highlights are only a minute long. You never see the away fans, but you do hear them briefly. I'm pretty sure Millwall were on the Embankment - I don't think they ever went on the Lever End - because I vaguely remember loads of Bolton fans loitering, waiting for the Embankment gates to open. As an away fan at dodgy grounds, I didn't like being kept in at the end. It was alright for those being escorted back to the coaches, but small groups heading back to the station or a car/van were easily picked out when most of the crowd had cleared. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulhanley Posted May 27, 2019 Share Posted May 27, 2019 17 minutes ago, bolton va va said: I'm pretty sure Millwall were on the Embankment - I don't think they ever went on the Lever End - because I vaguely remember loads of Bolton fans loitering, waiting for the Embankment gates to open. As an away fan at dodgy grounds, I didn't like being kept in at the end. It was alright for those being escorted back to the coaches, but small groups heading back to the station or a car/van were easily picked out when most of the crowd had cleared. One of the 80s vids I've done in the last fortnight had a very Burnden Park moment. When the nasally sounding copper came on to to the public address system and said: "This is a message for the visiting supporters. The visiting supporters. Will you please remain where you are. You will be escorted from the ground." Often followed by a sinister sounding cheer from the Manny Road North! We played Millwall at home pretty much exactly 12 months later in our promotion season. Did Millwall turn up again? (we won 2-1 this time). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miamiwhite Posted May 27, 2019 Share Posted May 27, 2019 1 hour ago, paulhanley said: One of the 80s vids I've done in the last fortnight had a very Burnden Park moment. When the nasally sounding copper came on to to the public address system and said: "This is a message for the visiting supporters. The visiting supporters. Will you please remain where you are. You will be escorted from the ground." Often followed by a sinister sounding cheer from the Manny Road North! We played Millwall at home pretty much exactly 12 months later in our promotion season. Did Millwall turn up again? (we won 2-1 this time). I remember Millwall coming up on the service train in the 84/85 season not long before Christmas. Got quite lively as they got off at Trinity St and the Trotters emptied. Fun and games all the way to the ground with hardly any coppers in sight. Everyone was getting stuck in whilst one of ours and one of theirs had a private running brawl up and down Manny Road aided by the Millwall fan nicking a wrench from Kwik Fit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulhanley Posted May 27, 2019 Share Posted May 27, 2019 (edited) 5 minutes ago, miamiwhite said: I remember Millwall coming up on the service train in the 84/85 season not long before Christmas. Got quite lively as they got off at Trinity St and the Trotters emptied. Fun and games all the way to the ground with hardly any coppers in sight. Everyone was getting stuck in whilst one of ours and one of theirs had a private running brawl up and down Manny Road aided by the Millwall fan nicking a wrench from Kwik Fit Remember that game quite well - pretty sure it was played in rain. Was sitting in the Manny Road North not far from the gathered "regulars". A clutch of Millwall's firm were directly across the pitch - stood right up against the fence between the Embankment and the Burnden Paddock - and the focus of the Manny Roaders was on them throughout. I remember one chant used frequently: "We thought you were soft ...and we were right" ... to the tune used these days for "We are the one and only Wanderers" We won 2-0. I remember Tony Caldwell getting both goals .... but the book tells me it was on December 15 and it was John McGovern's last win at Bolton before getting the sack on January 7! Edited May 27, 2019 by paulhanley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miamiwhite Posted May 27, 2019 Share Posted May 27, 2019 Just now, paulhanley said: Remember that game well quite well - pretty sure it was played in rain. Was sitting in the Manny Road North not far from the gathered "regulars". A clutch of Millwall's firm were directly across the pitch - stood right up against the fence between the Embankment and the Burnden Paddock - and the focus of the Manny Roaders was on them throughout. I remember one chant used frequently: "We thought you were soft ...and we were right" ... to the tune used these days for "We are the one and only Wanderers" We won 2-0. I remember Tony Caldwell getting both goals .... but the book tells me it was on December 15 and it was John McGovern's last win at Bolton before getting the sack on January 7! Seems about right, a week or two before Christmas. Most of their mob ended up in the Paddock seats, I was in the Paddock beneath them, well, at an angle to them...they were doing the tune from The Vikings. The song though which the Manny Road actually sung to the tune of the old British Airways ad. I know you’ll be singing it correctly now mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulhanley Posted May 27, 2019 Share Posted May 27, 2019 14 minutes ago, miamiwhite said: Seems about right, a week or two before Christmas. Most of their mob ended up in the Paddock seats, I was in the Paddock beneath them, well, at an angle to them...they were doing the tune from The Vikings. The song though which the Manny Road actually sung to the tune of the old British Airways ad. I know you’ll be singing it correctly now mate Ha yes! I am indeeed. "We. Thought. You were soft. We were right ........ we were right" I suppose the thing about Millwall at Bolton was they never had the numbers. Unlike when Chelsea, Leeds etc were in town. And West Ham in 1981. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miamiwhite Posted May 27, 2019 Share Posted May 27, 2019 1 minute ago, paulhanley said: Ha yes! I am indeeed. "We. Thought. You were soft. We were right ........ we were right" I suppose the thing about Millwall at Bolton was they never had the numbers. Unlike when Chelsea, Leeds etc were in town. And West Ham in 1981. The number of pure lads Chelsea and Leeds brought were frightening, particularly in the 82/83 season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulhanley Posted May 27, 2019 Share Posted May 27, 2019 4 minutes ago, miamiwhite said: The number of pure lads Chelsea and Leeds brought were frightening, particularly in the 82/83 season I can remember Leeds better in 78/9. Absolute carnage that day. In 82/3 they had thousands on the Embankment as well. Main thing I actually remember about that day was how it was men against boys on the pitch, literally. We had Simon Rudge playing, still in his teens and looking like he was about 9! Chelsea in 82/3 will have been discussed on here many times but I've vivid memories of that day and there are a good few pics on the internet. Right the way through the lower division years that followed Bolton fans sang "One man went to mow.... !" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter RONNIE PHILLIPS Posted May 27, 2019 Site Supporter Share Posted May 27, 2019 Nothing as bad as the dmbs in the 70s though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulhanley Posted May 27, 2019 Share Posted May 27, 2019 1 minute ago, RONNIE PHILLIPS said: Nothing as bad as the dmbs in the 70s though. Too young for that day. Hadn't even started Primary school in 74/5 🙂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miamiwhite Posted May 27, 2019 Share Posted May 27, 2019 10 minutes ago, paulhanley said: I can remember Leeds better in 78/9. Absolute carnage that day. In 82/3 they had thousands on the Embankment as well. Main thing I actually remember about that day was how it was men against boys on the pitch, literally. We had Simon Rudge playing, still in his teens and looking like he was about 9! Chelsea in 82/3 will have been discussed on here many times but I've vivid memories of that day and there are a good few pics on the internet. Right the way through the lower division years that followed Bolton fans sang "One man went to mow.... !" I was only at primary in 77/78 but seem to recall the League Cup game v Leeds being rather tasty indeed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulhanley Posted May 27, 2019 Share Posted May 27, 2019 1 minute ago, miamiwhite said: I was only at primary in 77/78 but seem to recall the League Cup game v Leeds being rather tasty indeed. Aye me too. Was taken to most home games in 77/78 but not that one. A Tuesday night match - dear old Gary Jones got very few goals that season but our consolation that night was his. I'm sure I've seen highlights of that game somewhere. Jimmy Armfield would have been the Leeds boss I guess? 78/9 I just remember bricks raining back and forth like confetti between the Paddock and the Embankment. Typical Leeds - absolute wreckers and vandals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter RONNIE PHILLIPS Posted May 27, 2019 Site Supporter Share Posted May 27, 2019 1 minute ago, miamiwhite said: I was only at primary in 77/78 but seem to recall the League Cup game v Leeds being rather tasty indeed. I was on the Burnden Paddock that night, all sorts flying about.... Something hit me in the balls & as I bent over in pain I got hit on the head with a coin 😁, just glad I didn't cop for a dart! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter RONNIE PHILLIPS Posted May 27, 2019 Site Supporter Share Posted May 27, 2019 5 minutes ago, miamiwhite said: I was only at primary in 77/78 but seem to recall the League Cup game v Leeds being rather tasty indeed. What subject were you teaching S? 😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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