Site Supporter Spider Posted January 5, 2012 Site Supporter Share Posted January 5, 2012 What would the TUC know about working? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bwfc2003 Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 to those who work to the minute it would be interesting if their bosses could get hold of WW records to see when and how long they have been on-line Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hillofdaub Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 What would the TUC know about working? the tuc or unions in general ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter only1swanny Posted January 5, 2012 Site Supporter Share Posted January 5, 2012 When my van helper signed his contract, I asked him if he wanted paying by the day or by the hour, baring in mind that some days he will be working 4 hours others 8 hours, Agreed on 35 quid a day for the average of six hours.(i'm going to work out his exact hours and i'll pay him extra if need be but I haven't told him this yet) I asked him, if he though it was fair and he replied with "We'll I've got a job now so I'm happy with that". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maaarsh Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 Workers gave bosses nearly two billion hours of unpaid overtime last year, enough to create a million extra full-time jobs, according to the TUC. The 1,968 million hours of overtime is worth ?29.2bn to the UK economy. Many of you lot do any overtime unpaid? http://news.sky.com/...rticle/16142805 TUC nonces trying to apply the logic of hourly wages to people with decent jobs are always going to get themselves confused. I haven't worked less than contracted hours + 5 in my entire working life, and I don't know many people that have working in the private sector, indoors, South of Watford. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
no balls Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 There is civilised life North of it too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 Ambitious people work to get the job done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maaarsh Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 There is civilised life North of it too. Just thought I'd push a few other buttons. Joking aside, what pathetic research, trying to treat people working past 35 hours in a salaried job as unpaid overtime, as if everyone is some greedy cunt driving a tube and demanding treble time, time off in lieu and 30 minutes each on the Duchess of Cambridge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Alf Hartigan Posted January 5, 2012 Site Supporter Share Posted January 5, 2012 TUC nonces trying to apply the logic of hourly wages to people with decent jobs are always going to get themselves confused. I haven't worked less than contracted hours + 5 in my entire working life, and I don't know many people that have working in the private sector, indoors, South of Watford. What's your definition of a decent job then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maaarsh Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 What's your definition of a decent job then? That really depends on who is applying. From my own perspective, it's something sat at a desk, contributing nothing tangible, living off the blood of the workers (at a competitive rate). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Alf Hartigan Posted January 5, 2012 Site Supporter Share Posted January 5, 2012 That really depends on who is applying. From my own perspective, it's something sat at a desk, contributing nothing tangible, living off the blood of the workers (at a competitive rate). daft question really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superbobby Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 In my place I'll often start 10 minutes before I'm needed (and paid from). Although this is unpaid I'll normally get 2 fag breaks that (if my bosses were tight arses) I wouldn't get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breightmet Boy Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 I get in work half a hour early every morning, clock in and have a brew (preparation). I often work through paid brew times and into/through dinner time to get the job done more effiently and cost effective. My overtime has changed at our place and im now on time & half maximum, no double bubble for sundays anymore as of 01/01/12. My job has very busy and quiet periods during the year so i take the rough with smooth, i play fair Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walkden26 Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 Not a second over coz I wouldn't get squat all for it not even a little thank you. My company doesn't believe in pay rises and bonuses even they they openly brag about record profits and the haul of new clients they have taken on. They have cut staff like I don't know what and now I am doing the work that was expected of 3 people this time last year - pay rise? Hell no! So in hindsight if they expect me to do any overtime they can just do one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birch-chorley Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 The way I see it... if your paid by the hour then you get paid overtime as and when, if you get paid a salary then thats that. If there is constantly too much work for the salary thats being paid then sit down with the employer and discuss a pay rise or a reduction in work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Alf Hartigan Posted January 5, 2012 Site Supporter Share Posted January 5, 2012 They won't pay me overtime, but I'm definitely doing twice the amount of work since the cutbacks, trying to work as a manager whilst covering sickness/leave of staff without using agencies. Reason being? I am trying to save my job from being privatised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jules_darby Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 The more you do the less well your thought of. If the gaffer sees your a mug he'll take you for one. Work your contracted hours and any more they should reimburse you for. If you work for nowt your shitting on your workmates because then they are expected to do the same. I've read some shite on here but that takes some beating You've obviously worked in some wanky places to think like that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank_spencer Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 (edited) You've obviously worked in some wanky places to think like that the thing is these wanky places do exist. They rely on folks not saying anything for fear of losing their jobs, and knowing full well there's a line of folks out of work waiting to fill the gaps of those brave or stupid enough to challenge the status quo. I worked at Toymaster in Bury after bombing out of uni, they paid less than national minimum wage and you only got paid for store opening times. They expected you in for 7 for deliveries and often expected you to stay after wards to shift stock around. Staff morale was none existant and staff turn over was sky high. I lasted about 3 months in total a month to realise how shit it was, a month looking for other work and a months notice. There were people who worked there when i did and hated it but they stuck it out because 'at least it's a job'. Edited January 5, 2012 by frank_spencer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SHAT Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 the thing is these wanky places do exist. They rely on folks not saying anything for fear of losing their jobs, and knowing full well there's a line of folks out of work waiting to fill the gaps of those brave or stupid enough to challenge the status quo. I work at one of those places pal but wouldn't class myself as brave or stupid,just don't like being fcuked over by bum holin' pricks.Place is full of gullible "yes" men who haven't got the brains to realise that if they all stuck together things could be a lot different! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tylswhite Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 People who work to the exact minute and wont put themselves out to do a bit extra will always suffer in the long run imo. The people who go that extra mile paid or not will always reap the benefit when it comes to promotions or if the company has to fuck anybody off etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
famouswanderer Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 Is tha because you dislike your job? No it's because that's when i stop getting paid... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter superjohnmcginlay Posted January 6, 2012 Author Site Supporter Share Posted January 6, 2012 No it's because that's when i stop getting paid... fair enough, maybe the question wasnt put reet, if you had, say 20 mins to finish a task yet it was time to go wom, would you stay and finish or go wom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyldesley_white Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 i am connie scum and work if i am getting paid and thats that And me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Dancer Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 I work something similar to flexi time, but slightly different. We are paid 50 hours overtime per year spread over the twelve months at time and a half. These 50 hours are put in our bank. In addition we bank another 50 hours which is taken as leave (normally used the week before Christmas and a few days after) or if needed any other time during the year, (odd day off here and there). So we owe the company 100 hours which they can call upon should we need to work overtime. If we are asked to do overtime it's agreed that it will be no more than 7.5 hrs per week.(very rare) Now! In my 10 years with the company I have never paid all my 100 hours back, the most I have paid back is 70. last year I only paid back 45. At the end of the year the 55 hours I owed where written off. In addition if I am asked to work overtime and I complete the job during my normal working shift I go home, I don't stay and the company will not expect me to stay. Some people lost out when the system was introduced as they used to cream the overtime (needed or not) costing the company a lot of money. I for one did as little overtime as possible so it has been a huge benefit to me and the business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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