This Weather.....

[Cheese]

5 minutes ago, gonzo said:

The gut still produces all your serotonin. Surely you agree a healthy gut would aid this process?

Being healthy is good for you? No shit.

[kent_white]

1 hour ago, gonzo said:

It's been covered elsewhere but there's a massive link to your mental state and gut bacteria.

....You'll struggle to come across a GP that recommends to survey this over just giving you some Sertraline and Citalopram though.

The serotonin that your gut produces is different and can't cross the blood brain barrier. It's mainly involved in your intestinal health. Your brain produces its own serotonin. 

Love from nurse Kent! 😁

[Tonge moor green jacket]

11 minutes ago, gonzo said:

The gut still produces all your serotonin. Surely you agree a healthy gut would aid this process?

Ignore him.

It is widely accepted now that gut health is critical to all sorts of functions.

Latest one suggests reducing intake of sunflower oil, and similar ones with high omega 6 but low omega 3. Appears to be a link with bowel cancer.

Recommend olive or similar.

I reckon more and more evidence will emerge about ultra processed foods in our diets and their effect on all sorts, including mental health.

Just wish someone would sort out a rapid cure for the flu.

Creepy skin and aching joints today.

[gonzo]

13 minutes ago, Cheese said:

Being healthy is good for you? No shit.

You clearly need some good gut bacteria.

[Tonge moor green jacket]

Just now, kent_white said:

The serotonin that your gut produces is different and can't cross the blood brain barrier. It's mainly involved in your intestinal health. Your brain produces its own serotonin. 

Love from nurse Kent! 😁

Read that somewhere before.

It also helps "repair" the BBB too by the looks of things. 

Bad gut health also seems to lead to a whole host of issues, which may indirectly impair your mental health amongst other troubles. 

[Tonge moor green jacket]

3 minutes ago, gonzo said:

You clearly need some good gut bacteria.

Got plenty of "tug" ones I reckon..

 

[Tonge moor green jacket]

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6132681/

Here we go.

Most of it goes over the head, but it seems that one form of the vitamin can cross the BBB and is then converted to the active form. That's if I interpet it correctly. 

Still not eating salmon though. Its rank.

[Cheese]

3 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Got plenty of "tug" ones I reckon..

That makes no sense. Was it an attempt at humour?

[kent_white]

25 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Read that somewhere before.

It also helps "repair" the BBB too by the looks of things. 

Bad gut health also seems to lead to a whole host of issues, which may indirectly impair your mental health amongst other troubles. 

Absolutely. There does seem to be some kind of link there!

[Jol_BWFC]

35 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Ignore him.

It is widely accepted now that gut health is critical to all sorts of functions.

Latest one suggests reducing intake of sunflower oil, and similar ones with high omega 6 but low omega 3. Appears to be a link with bowel cancer.

Recommend olive or similar.

I reckon more and more evidence will emerge about ultra processed foods in our diets and their effect on all sorts, including mental health.

Just wish someone would sort out a rapid cure for the flu.

Creepy skin and aching joints today.

Went for a health screen and the doc suggested frying with rapeseed oil, as it has a higher burning point than olive oil (burning is bad it seems).

I chose one which refers to high levels of omega 3, which hopefully is good. I still use olive oil for salads and for finishing off dishes where the oil is mixed in but not fried.

[gonzo]

41 minutes ago, Cheese said:

That makes no sense. Was it an attempt at humour?

Can spot a Cheese having a bad day a mile off.

Get to bed cocker.

[Cheese]

8 minutes ago, gonzo said:

Can spot a Cheese having a bad day a mile off.

Get to bed cocker.

Can spot gonzo having a thicko moment a mile off.

Listen to medical advice that's coming from a medical professional rather that a youtuber cocker.

[gonzo]

2 minutes ago, Cheese said:

Can spot gonzo having a thicko moment a mile off.

Listen to medical advice that's coming from a medical professional rather that a youtuber cocker.

I take 40mg of citalopram daily

 

[Cheese]

3 minutes ago, gonzo said:

I take 40mg of citalopram daily

Surely you'd be better off drinking a yakult every morning?

[London Wanderer]

9 minutes ago, Cheese said:

Can spot gonzo having a thicko moment a mile off.

Listen to medical advice that's coming from a medical professional rather that a youtuber cocker.

Advice on the importance of having a healthy gut microbiome is coming from medical experts.

 You’re having an absolute shocker mate 🥰

 

[gonzo]

14 minutes ago, Cheese said:

Surely you'd be better off drinking a yakult every morning?

Can I not do both?

Should GPs not promote a healthy gut first then maybe offer SSRI's?

 

[Tonge moor green jacket]

24 minutes ago, Jol_BWFC said:

Went for a health screen and the doc suggested frying with rapeseed oil, as it has a higher burning point than olive oil (burning is bad it seems).

I chose one which refers to high levels of omega 3, which hopefully is good. I still use olive oil for salads and for finishing off dishes where the oil is mixed in but not fried.

Aye, the smoke point is important. Saturated fats may be better for high temp stuff.

Even some of the refined olive is better than virgin. 

Essentially, the lower the smoke point, the more readily they degrade, and can break down into compounds associated with a cancer risk.

In this new case, it just seems that its the nature of the oil itself- needs more omega 3 to be a better product for repeated cooking with/eating. Nowt wrong with sunflower oil as such, just have more olive, or rapeseed.

 

[Tonge moor green jacket]

2 minutes ago, gonzo said:

Can I not do both?

Should GPs not promote a healthy gut first then maybe offer SSRI's?

 

I think this sort of thing is slowly changing. 

To be fair to GPS, they don't necessarily have the time to get to the bottom of a patient's lifestyle etc. 

Thankfully, there are additional folk employed within surgeries to help with all this. Kent will tell you all about it!

Particularly during covid, they were hit by a tsunami of problems.

I think there is also an increased desire for prescribing talking therapies too.

Needs a holistic approach, where ssri medications are utilised not solely, but alongside etc.

Not an easy thing to achieve, and given the amount of apparently conflicting information about foodstuffs, you could understand patients getting confused, especially if suffering from low mood.

Strangely, I've seen a few articles recently about oils, gut health etc.

This one below is another one which has some useful guidance.

A bit of an eye opener in a way.

https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/optimize-omega-6-omega-3-ratio#TOC_TITLE_HDR_5

 

[Dimron]

Diet...

Start the day with Oat Flakes, banana and yoghurt. Mid  morning easy peeler, apple & Earl Grey tea (and I'm an effin' builder)

If I eat meat one day I will avoid it the next and happily eat salads, I prefer fish and seafood these days anyway.

Shit a good log at 7am prompt after a black coffee.

 

[Tonge moor green jacket]

Having a break from turkey at least!

Burger tonight.

Back on the bird tomorrow: turkey broth.

Hopefully, the weather will start to play ball again too, and we can all get a bit more Vit D made!

[Tonge moor green jacket]

https://www.oliveoilsitaly.com/blog/fry-with-olive-oil-use-extra-virgin-n1

Another useful page.

[fatolive]

28 minutes ago, Dimron said:

Diet...

Start the day with Oat Flakes, banana and yoghurt. Mid  morning easy peeler, apple & Earl Grey tea (and I'm an effin' builder)

If I eat meat one day I will avoid it the next and happily eat salads, I prefer fish and seafood these days anyway.

Shit a good log at 7am prompt after a black coffee.

 

And jump out of bed at 10 past…

[Cheese]

56 minutes ago, gonzo said:

Can I not do both?

Should GPs not promote a healthy gut first then maybe offer SSRI's?

You can do what you want mate.

[gonzo]

Looks a bit lively tomorrow...and even worse on NYD

Edited December 30, 2024 by gonzo

[Traf]

27 minutes ago, gonzo said:

Looks a bit lively tomorrow...and even worse on NYD

It'd better not affect flights.

I'm sending our Maud off to Oz for seven weeks tomorrow.