People keep saying to me

 

 

 

How do they know?

 

 

West Brom have no debt, so it can be done

 

But we already have. We do not seem capable of running the club on a break even basis even with lots coming in

 

All the TV money is doing is turning average players into multi millionaires. Even worse is the money going to agents.

 

All I am saying is that people are fixated by the money next season but given nineteen other clubs get as much we are just as likely to struggle.

 

 

3 posts off Ani are bang on

 

Of all the years in the prem we've got fuck all in the bank

 

The more you have the more you spend

unless

 

the new model is to yoyo

 

you can change the business plan

 

in theory, the debt could be all but wiped out with two/three seasons of survival with younger talent

don't think any teams ever ready when they go up , but we have to grab it with both hands, if we did miss out this season then i would be confident of doing it next, but you just never know. under DF i feel although its early days we have a manager who above all else is a tacticion and someone who has a plan B, we are as ready as we will ever be.

I was in the 'not ready to go up camp'.

 

Now I'm in the 'go up, bank the money, spend little, accept relegation, start again' camp.

 

Or, as Cas said, the yo-yo business model - that I think I mentioned some months back.

Correct. If you secure enough points or win through in the playoffs, you are ready.

Can anyone say why, if promoted, we cannot achieve 8 wins and 6 draws at home, and accumulate a further 10 pts away?

Can anyone say why, if promoted, we cannot achieve 8 wins and 6 draws at home, and accumulate a further 10 pts away?

 

cos martinez and whelan are WINNERS and they won't do it?

Can anyone say why, if promoted, we cannot achieve 8 wins and 6 draws at home, and accumulate a further 10 pts away?

 

No

Can anyone say why, if promoted, we cannot achieve 8 wins and 6 draws at home, and accumulate a further 10 pts away?

 

we could nt get enough points last time we were up there.

 

every year whoever goes up faces a massive challenge which is why dropping down like we did was such a fuck up.

 

cardiff and hull/watford are looking like finishing 10 points at least ahead of us this season so we have some ground to make up.

 

next you have 4 teams from bottom end of current premiership, villa, sunderland, stoke, norwich.

 

so say we beat all 6 of these, you need 2 more home wins and 6 draws, before you start worrying about our away form !

 

it would be a massive challenge BUT if we did get there would it be anymore intimidating than the season we started with the 5 past leicester ?

 

Imagine the outrage on here from certain quarters and the town centre drinkers if we did just go up and take the cash......

 

Imagine the outrage on here from certain quarters and the town centre drinkers if we did just go up and take the cash......

 

i really hope we're not worrying about them

Correct. If you secure enough points or win through in the playoffs, you are ready.

 

precisely

 

you can state you're ready then go and get relegated or finish midtable and subsequently prove you are not ready

 

it's really a hindsight sort of thing to say/think - doesn't work for me

 

we still have a number of good players with PL experience and a manager who seems to know what he's doing, so we're more "ready" then last season in some ways to compete, when we really should've stayed up, but didn't

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Lets bet honest the money goes to players and agents.

 

Surely our years in the rich division have taught us that ?

 

More money comes in, the top teams pay higher wages. At the bottom whoever is struggling come jan spend money on players wages and staying up bonuses.

 

The clubs do not get richer, the biggest debts are with the clubs with the biggest incomes.

Yes true but the players you are paying are better.

 

It's hard to attract good players in the championship and any players you develop young or old may be picked off easier - so in terms of building for the long term, life in the championship is not the place to be

we could nt get enough points last time we were up there.

 

every year whoever goes up faces a massive challenge which is why dropping down like we did was such a fuck up.

 

cardiff and hull/watford are looking like finishing 10 points at least ahead of us this season so we have some ground to make up.

 

next you have 4 teams from bottom end of current premiership, villa, sunderland, stoke, norwich.

 

so say we beat all 6 of these, you need 2 more home wins and 6 draws, before you start worrying about our away form !

 

it would be a massive challenge BUT if we did get there would it be anymore intimidating than the season we started with the 5 past leicester ?

 

Imagine the outrage on here from certain quarters and the town centre drinkers if we did just go up and take the cash......

 

By next season, this one will be history.

Just because Cardiff are about 20 points now means nothing for next season.

Reading ran away last year, but this time they are below both Southampton and West Ham Olympic? How so?

Reluctantly I agree we have to take the money and get promoted as we can develop the club on the West Brom yoyo model.

I've spoke to a few Bolton fans on this subject and most seem to be in the 'we're not ready to go up' category but i don't agree. As some have already said on here, when will we ever be ready, The sooner we go up the better for the club, we'd have to spend well to survive, the defence would be a major worry and so would the lack of goal scorers in the team but DF will know this. I'd rather us get promoted and give it a go than not at all

Reluctantly I agree we have to take the money and get promoted as we can develop the club on the West Brom yoyo model.

 

Or maybe we can actually stay up without throwing silly money around. It is possible. Norwich seemed to do this okay when they came up last season.

 

Chances are we would go down, but we shouldn't assume it'd be nailed on .. and if we do then we just need to ensure the fuckwits who'll be moaning about a 'lack of ambition' don't become anything more than a minority.

 

Thing is though, it WILL be the boo-ers and the "You don't know what you're doing" imbeciles who'll be shouting the loudest.

I mean do People think that by staying down for another season we can prepare ourselves better?Do we go and spend all our (Championship Millions)on buying world beater,s and arrive at the PL suited and booted! We need Promotion to have any chance of getting our hand,s on Player,s that could improve on the squad we already have

By next season, this one will be history.

Just because Cardiff are about 20 points now means nothing for next season.

Reading ran away last year, but this time they are below both Southampton and West Ham Olympic? How so?

 

cos southampton spent 35 million?

When we beat Reading nobody said we weren't good enough to go up and they were wrong. When we beat Preston and went up virtually every one of the "experts" said we would come back down; they were wrong. The only time we got to the final and lost (to Watford) we were certainly not good enough to go up( that was a shit game!). This year get up and take what comes, we ain't going to do a Swansea, survival is good enough. Much as I hate those pie munching in-breds, it is Stoke who are doomed and that is poetic justice (hasn't Jonathan Walters' season gone rather pear shaped?)

By next season, this one will be history.

Just because Cardiff are about 20 points now means nothing for next season.

Reading ran away last year, but this time they are below both Southampton and West Ham Olympic? How so?

sorry to drag stats into it........

 

we have covered southampton (£36m spend)

 

west ham spent a net £18M, plus 4 undisclosed fees, joe cole on a freebie and andy carrol on loan. (£10m on matt jarvis !!!)

 

so basically we are seeing that championship teams that spend more money do better than those that do n't (reading spent £7m i think)

 

so we are nt ready as already said, if we spend the right money we could be.

but we didn't spend that much money first time round

 

we just had the right manager in place to do the job that was required

 

(plus a different transfer market then to what we have now)

 

pretty sure Norwich and Swansea didn't spend that much when they stayed up though I may be wrong

 

Norwich had only just got out of league 2 as well 2 seasons previously, so doubt they were ready either to go up or stay up

 

but they did

And grant holt, Rickie lambert and Adam le fondre cost a combined £1.75m

 

You don't need £37m to do well in the PL

 

You just need to spend the money right

 

Medo

 

You just need to spend the money right

 

Medo

 

And thats why we're ready with this man in charge!