How Long?

[COYW]

Forest were one of the biggest net spenders in those two seasons, as were Wigan and QPR... and us.

[Zico]

 

zico

 

forest from the site i mentioned

 

http://www.transferleague.co.uk/football-transfers/nottingham-forest-transfers.html

 

i used to use transfermarkt but i think that went subscription only

 

ok

 

but it also says:

 

Beckford: £1M

Spearing: £2M

Mills: £2M

 

(and George Thorne £2M fwiw)

Edited September 17, 2014 by ZicoKelly

[COYW]

Burnley last year.

Southampton in previous years.

Bournemouth's recent history.

 

You could add Blackpool to that list. Two play-off finals in three seasons.

[Casino]

Forest were one of the biggest net spenders in those two seasons, as were Wigan and QPR... and us.

 

 

blackburn, 8 million plus

 

nett spend

 

you could at least try and make a fcuking case not full of holes

[Casino]

 

 

 

ok

 

but it also says:

 

Beckford: £1M

Spearing: £2M

Mills: £2M

 

(and George Thorne £2M fwiw)

 

 

 

i didn't include thorne

 

he was this season

[COYW]

blackburn, 8 million plus

 

nett spend

 

you could at least try and make a fcuking case not full of holes

 

I didn't say Blackburn weren't one of the biggest spenders...

[COYW]

i didn't include thorne

 

he was this season

 

You've not included Robert Hall either. He wasn't a free transfer.

[Casino]

Forest were one of the biggest net spenders in those two seasons, as were Wigan and QPR... and us.

 

 

ok then

 

how many others

 

seeing as the inference was that we were 3rd behind wigan and qpr

[Casino]

You've not included Robert Hall either. He wasn't a free transfer.

 

 

tbh, theres probably loads i haven't included, from us, from wolves, from fcuking timbuktu

 

i've not checked any of them from any of the clubs

 

theres enough in there to show we're not a big spender (on fees) in this league

[BOWTUN BAKED]

you'd expect to have a worse team if you're paying 10 million a year in wages than when you're spending 70, too

 

yes?

Not necessarily.

 

It depends on how stupid the chairman is.

 

You've already pointed out we've had players that other teams couldn't/didn't want to buy because they couldn't/wouldn't afford to pay them.

 

Who honestly believes Rooney is worth what he's getting paid? What other teams would pay him that? Not many if any.

[Zico]

i didn't include thorne

 

he was this season

 

I know, that was in reference to the undisclosed (wiki) v £3M (garp) v £2M (this new site your using)

 

the other fees mentioned were to help fill in a few holes, purely as a guide like

[BOWTUN BAKED]

You could add Blackpool to that list. Two play-off finals in three seasons.

As I said, I could go on, but I couldn't be arsed

[Garrp]

3million Thorne was from the horses mouth (Sam Rush) at a fans forum I listened to

[Casino]

I know, that was in reference to the undisclosed (wiki) v £3M (garp) v £2M (this new site your using)

 

the other fees mentioned were to help fill in a few holes, purely as a guide like

 

 

ok, fair enough

 

i accept that site has to be taken with a pinch of salt but its as good as owt i can find

[Casino]

Not necessarily.

 

agreed

 

but a team being paid 10 million is probably going to be worse than one being paid 70 million

 

the fact we had the 12th highest wage bill in the prem when we got relegated will long torment me

[Zico]

3million Thorne was from the horses mouth (Sam Rush) at a fans forum I listened to

 

horses mouth is always the best source

 

this is how i found out the signing on fee, never mind the wages, for Baptiste was far, far higher than anyone else, including newly promoted Palace managed by his old manager, were willing to offer him

 

admittedly, I wasn't the horse whisperer, my mate was, but it's as good a source for me without talking to PG directly

 

it would seem the moral of the story is we weren't "skint" and spent what a side expecting to challenge would spend to compliment their existing, relatively high value squad/wage bill

 

up until this season, because now, we're skint

[Casino]

i raise your baptiste with 10 signings for watford 'for nowt'

 

theres about 10 different discussions going on, one of which is the suggestion we have been one of the top 6 spenders on fees over the last two completed seasons

 

we haven't

 

 

and i agree, we're skint

 

gonzo says we're not

[Henry_VIII]

Casino, simple question, do you think Freedman and the management team are getting the best out of the players at the club now?

[Casino]

Casino, simple question, do you think Freedman and the management team are getting the best out of the players at the club now?

 

thats another subject

 

not one i can answer either

 

but

 

if you asked if i was disappointed with our start, i'd say yes

 

if you ask do i think we'll go down, no

 

i do know that lonergan, moxey, mills, feeney, danns and mason weren't getting a game at the clubs we signed them from so maybe they just arent that good

 

add two of our better players are made from glass, the back five has lost bogdan, mcnaughton, wheater and moxey to injury this season, its not been easy

 

 

so, yes i hoped for better but no, i haven't lost hope just yet

 

and i still see a team trying for him - plenty chances last night to lie down and lose

[Henry_VIII]

thats another subject

 

not one i can answer either

 

but

 

if you asked if i was disappointed with our start, i'd say yes

 

if you ask do i think we'll go down, no

 

i do know that lonergan, moxey, mills, feeney, danns and mason weren't getting a game at the clubs we signed them from so maybe they just arent that good

 

add two of our better players are made from glass, the back five has lost bogdan, mcnaughton, wheater and moxey to injury this season, its not been easy

 

 

so, yes i hoped for better but no, i haven't lost hope just yet

 

and i still see a team trying for him - plenty chances last night to lie down and lose

It's not really another question as the question is how long do you give him?

 

Where do you think this team should finish at the end of the season? All teams have injuries etc.... colours to the mast time....

[COYW]

theres about 10 different discussions going on, one of which is the suggestion we have been one of the top 6 spenders on fees over the last two completed seasons

 

we haven't

 

One of the myths that is trotted out about Dougie from time to time is that he's been given next to nothing to spend. We know for a fact that he's been given £4M to spend. We also know that we've brought in nowt in transfer fees, so he's had £4M net to spend. That's a decent amount by Championship standards. In fact i'd challenge you to find many other Championship clubs who had spent that sort of amount in those two seasons using that site you quoted.

[Casino]

It's not really another question as the question is how long do you give him?

 

Where do you think this team should finish at the end of the season? All teams have injuries etc.... colours to the mast time....

 

 

sorry, the thread had deviated...shit mods

 

should finish?

 

10th

 

i'm hoping for 6th

[EyesRight]

One of the myths that is trotted out about Dougie from time to time is that he's been given next to nothing to spend. We know for a fact that he's been given £4M to spend. We also know that we've brought in nowt in transfer fees, so he's had £4M net to spend. That's a decent amount by Championship standards. In fact i'd challenge you to find many other Championship clubs who had spent that sort of amount in those two seasons using that site you quoted.

They probably have tbf but I can't be arsed looking, you do me a list of all net spends and then I can agree or disagree.

 

And I imagine that the £4m spent has been "found" due to decrease in wages, and offloading high earners.

 

All that said, we are under performing, not one player has improved under him, and playing Feeney on the left on Sat was the final straw for me.

 

But, roll on Wolves!

[Casino]

One of the myths that is trotted out about Dougie from time to time is that he's been given next to nothing to spend. We know for a fact that he's been given £4M to spend. We also know that we've brought in nowt in transfer fees, so he's had £4M net to spend. That's a decent amount by Championship standards. In fact i'd challenge you to find many other Championship clubs who had spent that sort of amount in those two seasons using that site you quoted.

 

 

so, are we now on nett spend?

 

just so we can do this just once

[Casino]

 

All that said, we are under performing, not one player has improved under him, and playing Feeney on the left on Sat was the final straw for me.

 

 

 

i missed saturday

 

daughter bear says its perhaps as well

 

i didn't do crewe either but dearden told me feeney played on the left at crewe and crossed for pratleys goal?

 

as in, saturday wasn't some random thing