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Lets Take The Positives Thread..

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I accept that we cannot afford a big pay-off.

 

I don't accept that we just bumble along with no direction, strategy and plan.

 

The whole thing will come to an ugly end soon if a win isn't forthcoming as the players will/are already noticeably nervous about playing and taking any responsibility.

 

IMO there will be some respite here if DF is sacked and even an interim appointment is made.

 

Nobody at all has any belief in him.

 

I would go for Billie Davies as a long term successor.

 

But how long would we give him.

 

We seem hell bent on demanding success instantly. we are way off this. 

 

not blaming fans but without giving a manager time like we did with FSA we have no chance of stability. 

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But how long would we give him.

 

We seem hell bent on demanding success instantly. we are way off this. 

 

not blaming fans but without giving a manager time like we did with FSA we have no chance of stability.

 

He is in his 3rd year now and fuck all progress has been made imo.

 

I don't expect instant success but we should be moving forward and be building up our squad. Instead we look absolutely fucking clueless and are getting worse rather than better.

 

I don't accept that we just bumble along with no direction, strategy and plan.

 

 

 

 

do you tell your customers your direction, strategy and plan or do you just stack stuff as high as you can

He is in his 3rd year now and fuck all progress has been made imo.

 

I don't expect instant success but we should be moving forward and be building up our squad. Instead we look absolutely fucking clueless and are getting worse rather than better.

 

 

 

but what if

 

and its just a WHAT IF

 

the plan is to cut the wage bill from 60 million a year to 5 million a year and stay up

 

so far, he's doing OK

 

 

if its to be top six on 5 million a year, then he's not, clearly

But how long would we give him.

 

About 15 minutes, from experience.

but what if

 

and its just a WHAT IF

 

the plan is to cut the wage bill from 60 million a year to 5 million a year and stay up

 

so far, he's doing OK

 

 

if its to be top six on 5 million a year, then he's not, clearly

 

Well if that's the case Dougie is doing his job just fine. Although if he doesn't wake up we will be going down.

 

The cunt setting his targets needs to take the bullet instead.

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but what if

 

and its just a WHAT IF

 

the plan is to cut the wage bill from 60 million a year to 5 million a year and stay up

 

so far, he's doing OK

 

 

if its to be top six on 5 million a year, then he's not, clearly

 

for clarity, when are you saying this plan was formed?

 

I don't think he'd have left Palace if that was the plan

 

or are you assuming the goalposts were moved and new plans formed when other more "ambitious" plans failed?

 

because he's been cutting the wage bill since his first transfer window

Well if that's the case Dougie is doing his job just fine. Although if he doesn't wake up we will be going down.

 

The cunt setting his targets needs to take the bullet instead.

The cunt setting the target owns the club, now what are your going to do

 

 

I don't think he'd have left Palace if that was the plan

 

Now what would you do if someone say doubled your wages and said you have to do A, B and C doesnt matter what people say you will not get the sack 

for clarity, when are you saying this plan was formed?

 

I don't think he'd have left Palace if that was the plan

 

or are you assuming the goalposts were moved and new plans formed when other more "ambitious" plans failed?

 

because he's been cutting the wage bill since his first transfer window

No way Freedman leaves Palace if he was told he was getting fuck all money to spend and his aim is to grind around the lower reaches of the championship and take a shitload of flak.

The cunt setting the target owns the club, now what are your going to do

Watch the club go into meltdown with fans fighting among themselves and utter fucking wank football on the pitch every week.

for clarity, when are you saying this plan was formed?

 

I don't think he'd have left Palace if that was the plan

 

or are you assuming the goalposts were moved and new plans formed when other more "ambitious" plans failed?

 

because he's been cutting the wage bill since his first transfer window

 

 

there isn't any clarity

 

i don't know what the plan is any more than anybody else

 

clearly nobody wants us to be near the bottom of this league but 4 games in as hardly a time to judge

 

the 4 teams we've played are hardly this leagues also rans are they - you'd put them all as contenders

 

id guess they hoped we'd get promoted before we reached where we're at

 

which the more i study the numbers is 'deep in the shit'

i'm going to post it again

 

20 pros on 5k a week costs the best part of 6 million

 

thats where we are now at

He is in his 3rd year now and fuck all progress has been made imo.

 

I don't expect instant success but we should be moving forward and be building up our squad. Instead we look absolutely fucking clueless and are getting worse rather than better.

 

 

We have made progress in the FFP field though. This may be what he is being measured on.

 

Its shit on the pitch but may be what we need off the pitch right now. Doesn't make it any easier to stomach though. 

 

Again i am not saying its right but i would sooner have a bwfc for now rather than no bwfc.

i'm going to post it again

 

20 pros on 5k a week costs the best part of 6 million

 

thats where we are now at

 

Right then your Bolton's Eddie Davies now.

 

What would you do?

 

What do you think the best course of action is from here taking into account all the issues we have from wank football to money trouble.

 

Would be interested in most peoples answer to that question as well.

 

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i'm going to post it again

 

20 pros on 5k a week costs the best part of 6 million

 

thats where we are now at

What's that got to do with our current situation we have players on 20 k players with proven championship form even a player who played in the World Cup, currently DF can't do fuck all right shit formations shit selections shitter style of play and players who he's undermining on a regular basis and can't get any sort of tune out of any team he selects, he's fucking woeful.

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id look to get as much of my cash out that i can

 

 

i'm generally an optimistic fan, always think we're better than we are

 

ive seen DF have good spells and bad spells so far - good spells coinciding with us getting players who we cant afford long term

 

i'm optimistic this season will improve and we won't get relegated

 

dunno how high up we'll finish but im confident we dont go down

 

then i'd have another look at it

 

then we sell our best players cos we cant sustain their wages in this league

 

then it starts again :)

 

 

like i say

 

get out what i can and fcuk off to the bahamas

What's that got to do with our current situation we have players on 20 k players with proven championship form even a player who played in the World Cup, currently DF can't do fuck all right shit formations shit selections shitter style of play and players who he's undermining on a regular basis and can't get any sort of tune out of Amy team he selects, he's fucking woeful.

 

 

i'd take you more seriously if you didn't do a complete about turn every month

 

you still moan that we didn't sign jutkiewicz and just ignore the fact we couldn't fcuking afford him

 

i had you better than that

Now what would you do if someone say doubled your wages and said you have to do A, B and C doesnt matter what people say you will not get the sack 

 

if I was DF and had Palace in the play offs and thought I might take them up, I would stay and get a pay rise there, given my affinity with the club, IF Bolton's offer was to just cut the wage bill and keep them in the same league, as it's not very ambitious, and I am ambitious

but if like we all know the job was to get Bolton promoted, I'd probably think I had a better chance of going up and staying there with Bolton

 

trying to relate this to any other "real life" job situation is a waste of time, of course I would take that job offer of yours, unless A = bumming men or something equally ridiculous

there isn't any clarity

 

i don't know what the plan is any more than anybody else

 

clearly nobody wants us to be near the bottom of this league but 4 games in as hardly a time to judge

 

the 4 teams we've played are hardly this leagues also rans are they - you'd put them all as contenders

 

id guess they hoped we'd get promoted before we reached where we're at

 

which the more i study the numbers is 'deep in the shit'

 

I know that, but if you're going to make up criterias to suggest DF is doing his job to an acceptable standard, I want detail to understand where you're coming from

Bad round of golf mounts?

No :) played match play against brother in law and drew, that La Finca course is lovely really enjoyed it and scoffed a curry after in spice city despite it being about 95 degrees.

Right then your Bolton's Eddie Davies now.

 

What would you do?

 

 

Reduce all spending and run down the contracts of the higher paid players and replace them with lower earners.......all whilst hoping we can avoid relegation. I would probably have also written off any chance of promotion for the next 5~10 years, and hope that the "off field" activities start to help to get the club close to being self running/funding.

I know that, but if you're going to make up criterias to suggest DF is doing his job to an acceptable standard, I want detail to understand where you're coming from

See Zico the issue is we dont know what criterias DF has been set, we know what the fans criterias are but as in most case the two are never the same

i'd take you more seriously if you didn't do a complete about turn every month

 

you still moan that we didn't sign jutkiewicz and just ignore the fact we couldn't fcuking afford him

 

i had you better than that

Think I've been reasonably consistent said he should have 10 games now I'm not so sure but after 10 we need results, what annoys me about Juke is we never bid for him yet we signed quite a few no marks on frees and I'd expect they got a nice lump signing on fee, I'd have preferred to not have Trotter, Feeney, dervite on frees if it meant bidding for jukewicz, also we got shut of sordell for 500k where did that money go? The fact of the matter is Freedman can't get any tune out of this squad and I'd bet money were in the top 8 in terms of salary, it's pathetic.

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