October 7, 201411 yr Right, I'm flummoxed and so i put it to the greater good of WW to make a life changing decision for me. I've been offered a new job back in London. Bigger remit, step on wards to hopefully setting up a consultancy one day etc etc etc Pay rise but not huge (just shy of covering the commuter costs) but it's back in London and means I can move closer to my kids rather than the two hours in takes me now, possibly down to twenty minutes and a bigger house for what we have now. So money wise it might be tight BUT I'd be closer to the kids, it's a better job and a family home. Do I take it, or possibly keep on looking in the hope of a better pay option (I've pushed them as far as they can go on the money) they've also said I can have total flexibility on the days I have the kids so i don't have to be in London before pick up. Plus if it's twenty minutes I might even be able to have them on certain weekdays (they've also said i can work some days at home if I have the girls) Hmmmmm. Its just that blasted money. If I held out for a position back in the commercial sector then i could get more money but as it's funded (thank you all you tax payers) they can't break the pay scale. But in the commercial sector I certainly wouldn't get that sort of flexibility. Throw into the mix that I hate Cambridge, but I don't want to just leap at the first thing that comes along (even though it is a good option) and it's with my current employers partner organisations (see competitors) and it'd go down like a sick sandwich with the team and more importantly the board (the head of the board who headhunted and created this role for me and is a good friend, works for the major competitor for this new place's business and everyone knows everyone else in this business) And because today I'm an indecisive sod, the other half is on an away day, instead of tossing a coin it might as well be as arbitrary as asking a bunch of strangers. Oh, and has anyone ever lived in Ashford?
October 7, 201411 yr Sounds like everything except the money is better with the new position - give it a whirl, make things happen and surely the money will follow?
October 7, 201411 yr Take it. Nearer the kids, more time spent with them, very little impact on money it sounds like. The only thin stopping you is loyalty to your current employer. Not sure on your industry whether that's a deal breaker. Probably shouldn't be!
October 7, 201411 yr As long as you are still financially comfortable surely the job flexibility and the opporutnity to spend more time with your kids is of higher value. I haven't lived in Ashford but I was there yesterday. There's not a right lot going on apart from a designer shopping village. Neighbourting Folkestone and Dover also terrible. I would move to Canterbury and commute in if it was me.
October 7, 201411 yr Author Career consequences are not I'd just have to keep looking for something. Its a good option and I'd be part of a new directorate for a national organisation, so it's a pretty big deal on that level. I would hope that the money would follow, plus I'd be able in 3 or 4 years to perhaps go for something else without the hassle of moving again as I'd be still in London (4 times in the last two years, I'd really quite like to settle somewhere now) But it's the 5k commuting costs that are making me wince.
October 7, 201411 yr Thinly veiled, 'I'm going to be a contestant on Location, Location, Location' thread.
October 7, 201411 yr Author As long as you are still financially comfortable surely the job flexibility and the opporutnity to spend more time with your kids is of higher value. I haven't lived in Ashford but I was there yesterday. There's not a right lot going on apart from a designer shopping village. Neighbourting Folkestone and Dover also terrible. I would move to Canterbury and commute in if it was me. Can't go to Canterbury - ex wife is there and she wouldn't be happy, I'm not a big fan of the place. Plus the commute would be way too much and the house prices are too much for a family home. Dover is a shite hole, but Dover castle is ace. and from Ashford I can do the WW fags and booze run to France.
October 7, 201411 yr Author Thinly veiled, 'I'm going to be a contestant on Location, Location, Location' thread. Ha - my old house in Crawley was on that programme.
October 7, 201411 yr Can't go to Canterbury - ex wife is there and she wouldn't be happy, I'm not a big fan of the place. Plus the commute would be way too much and the house prices are too much for a family home. Dover is a shite hole, but Dover castle is ace. and from Ashford I can do the WW fags and booze run to France. Anywhere on the High Speed route is worth a look. You can commute it from London St Pancras in just over half an hour. Faversham is also supposed to be quite nice.
October 7, 201411 yr Can you not car share with some other withering fop? Procrastinate at your peril, there's plenty other people out there they can find to open and shut the stage curtains. Take the job and stop being such a fucking mardarse. You're supposed to be a northerner.
October 7, 201411 yr Author Anywhere on the High Speed route is worth a look. You can commute it from London St Pancras in just over half an hour. Faversham is also supposed to be quite nice. I've lived in Faversham. Never again. Its just a bit too small for me, which is why I was thinking Ashford. Spider, I thank you for your clarity.
October 7, 201411 yr If it's the cost of the commute that puts you off, offer to go halves with them. Honest. London employers are becoming more open to the idea of helping out with travel costs as the commuter belt is expanding and expanding, hence more expensive and inconvenient to get to work. A friend of a friend works Mon and Thu in London and the rest of the week at her home in York. All paid for on the train which takes an hour and half each way. Public sector too. As you are a communist, would this promotion mean you achieve the dream of paying top rate tax? To stay true to your beliefs you should take the course which means you will pay the most tax.
October 7, 201411 yr Kids > Money every day. Exactly. I'm struggling to understand why he's even considering turning it down. Edit: Actually, I've just thought about it for a few seconds and there's no fucking chance he'll turn it down. This is just a thinly veiled bragging thread. Edited October 7, 201411 yr by Cheese
October 7, 201411 yr . This is just a thinly veiled bragging thread. I don't think it is. I've never met him, but he doesn't across as that kind of person. If anything, he'd be more likely to underplay it and I see him asking as a sign of a genuine dilemma. He wants to see more of his kids, but doesn't want to struggle financially especially as interest rate hikes are on the way.
October 7, 201411 yr take it. but also keep looking for higher paid roles in london. nothing stop you jumping ship again but for your notice period
October 7, 201411 yr Exactly. I'm struggling to understand why he's even considering turning it down. Edit: Actually, I've just thought about it for a few seconds and there's no fucking chance he'll turn it down. This is just a thinly veiled bragging thread. You don't help yourself do you? He might be a flimsy socialist with a likely addiction to fuck-awful footwear, but telling us he'll be putting Ian McKellen's soiled undies in the wash basket is hardly bragging material. Sometimes it's nice to seek opinions, even if they are on here, and even if I am going to post Lemon Party on the thread at some point. Edited October 7, 201411 yr by Spider
October 7, 201411 yr Author No honestly cheese, no bragging sorry if it came across like that. It's just a big choice, other half was away today so just wanted to hear what people thought as I'm sure other folks have been through this and it helps to get the view of people not emotionally involved. Thanks people for the food for thought. Going to sleep on it. Oh and yes my footwear is often pointy and laughable!
October 7, 201411 yr Oh and yes my footwear is often pointy and laughable! This new job, will it allow you to buy loads more fancy cravats?
October 7, 201411 yr Author This new job, will it allow you to buy loads more fancy cravats? No that's the whole problem! I'll have to make do with the ones I have for a while.
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