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[DIPS]

You make this forum worth reading.

I just love reading the names (and any new ones) that sum up a day out.

[SnoopJohnnyJohn]

Nothing Amos could do about the second half goals, peaches those.

[Rembrandt]

The frustrating thing is we're in most games but seem to find any way to lose to me it's a physchological problem and we need to sort it I think expert advice is needed to get to the bottom of this problem.

Well, according to the BN today, Mounts, Lennon & Pratley see the problems. That's a start. Now we need solutions.

[Guest]

I don't think it is a psychological problem. We just don't have enough good  players. Which means we miss chances we should score from, make mistakes that end up as goals against and just all round struggle to win games. We're probably only a couple of better players short of making a run at the play-offs. But so is half this division. We're just not that good, and there isn't the money to fix it so we just have to wait patiently for a takeover or Lennon stumbling upon the right couple of freebies to improve us.

[Rembrandt]

I don't think it is a psychological problem. We just don't have enough good  players. Which means we miss chances we should score from, make mistakes that end up as goals against and just all round struggle to win games. We're probably only a couple of better players short of making a run at the play-offs. But so is half this division. We're just not that good, and there isn't the money to fix it so we just have to wait patiently for a takeover or Lennon stumbling upon the right couple of freebies to improve us.

Can't entirely agree. Sure we need some better players. BUT ........

If part-time non-league footballers can be coached to pass, retain possession, press, defend, concentrate ....... then our so-called professional players are capable of being mid-table.

[Dunnoy'know]

So the psychology of the players is now being blamed rather than just acknowledging that they aren't very good.

 

hilarious

[embankment]

I just love reading the names (and any new ones) that sum up a day out.

Complete current list.

Embankment

Pinocheo's Dad

Grumpy Bat

Ron Jeremy

The Gambler

Dawwwnn Sarrrrfff

Dawens Finest Carrr Parrrrk

Early Dart

Son of Dart

Sputnik Stan

The Shark

The Dog

Whispering Bob

Happy Ending

Wifffe of Bwwian

And everyones favourite

Ashburner Street Market Fish Stall Face.

Stay tuned for further awaydays.

[ianofcleveleys]

So the psychology of the players is now being blamed rather than just acknowledging that they aren't very good.

 

hilarious

We know they're not world beaters but it isn't just about ability. I refer you to Chelsea, a team full of world class players but one with a confidence issue that's causing mistakes to be made, wrong options taken, simple things not being executed.

 

I said back end of last season, if Lennon's hands were going be pretty much tied in the transfer market his best signing would be a sports psychologist. There was something clearly amiss when we kept shipping in injury time goals week after week, and what was concerning then was Lennon basically admitting he didn't know what to do about it.

 

Here we are, 10 games into the new season and the same issue's come back to haunt us. After the game Sat, Lennon sounded at a loss again, though if the post above is right, maybe he's put his finger on it at last.  As Rembrandt said, now he needs to solve it, in the next fortnight.   

[land_and_sea]

At least we are doing slightly better this  season. Last two seasons after 10 matches we only had 5  points.

Results will happen. 

 

 

                             2013-2014

3 August 2013        Burnley        1 – 1 Bolton Wanderers

10 August 2013        Bolton Wanderers 1 – 1 Reading

17 August 2013        Nottingham Forest 3 – 0 Bolton Wanderers

24 August 2013         Bolton Wanderers 0 – 1 QPR 

31 August 2013       Blackburn Rovers 4 – 1 Bolton Wanderers

14 September 2013 Bolton Wanderers 0 – 1 Leeds United

17 September 2013 Bolton Wanderers 2 – 2 Derby County

21 September 2013 Brighton 3 – 1 Bolton Wanderers

28 September 2013 Bolton Wanderers 1 – 1 Yeovil Town

1 October 2013        Blackpool 0 – 0 Bolton Wanderers

 

 

 

                          0 wins, 5 draws, 5 losses= 5 points. 

 

                                2014-2015

9 August 2014        Watford     3 – 0 Bolton Wanderers

16 August 2014        Bolton Wanderers 2 – 2 Nottingham Forest

19 August 2014        Bolton Wanderers 1 – 2 Middlesbrough

23 August 2014        Brighton 2 – 1 Bolton Wanderers

30 August 2014        Leeds United 1 – 0 Bolton Wanderers

13 September 2014 Bolton Wanderers 0 – 0 Sheffield Wednesday

16 September 2014 Bolton Wanderers 3 – 2 Rotherham United

20 September 2014 Wolverhampton Wanderers 1 – 0 Bolton Wanderers

27 September 2014 Bolton Wanderers 0 – 2 Derby County

1 October 2014        Fulham 4 – 0 Bolton Wanderers

 

                             1 win 2 draws  7 losses =  5 points

Edited October 5, 2015 by land_and_sea

[gonzo]

We know they're not world beaters but it isn't just about ability. I refer you to Chelsea, a team full of world class players but one with a confidence issue that's causing mistakes to be made, wrong options taken, simple things not being executed.

 

I said back end of last season, if Lennon's hands were going be pretty much tied in the transfer market his best signing would be a sports psychologist. There was something clearly amiss when we kept shipping in injury time goals week after week, and what was concerning then was Lennon basically admitting he didn't know what to do about it.

 

Here we are, 10 games into the new season and the same issue's come back to haunt us. After the game Sat, Lennon sounded at a loss again, though if the post above is right, maybe he's put his finger on it at last. As Rembrandt said, now he needs to solve it, in the next fortnight.

Maybe Lenny should give every player a copy of the chimp paradox.

[Dunnoy'know]

We know they're not world beaters but it isn't just about ability. I refer you to Chelsea, a team full of world class players but one with a confidence issue that's causing mistakes to be made, wrong options taken, simple things not being executed.

 

I'm sorry but I cannot take this comparison seriously. As you say, the chelsea team is full of world class players that have proved in the past how good they are, whilst their current form is quite funny we all know it won't last long and they will come good again.

 

Our team on the other hand is full of journeymen with a light sprinkling of talent. They have never done anything of note and I am never confident of us getting a win these days. A couple of psychotherapy sessions will not help us im afraid

[Farrelli]

I think we have benefitted from late goals this season as many times as we have conceded them.

We rescued a point late on at home to Brighton and Forest.

 

Our biggest issue is that apart from Wolves we have never gone into the last ten minutes of any game this season with a lead.

That sounds like a dull statement but we have hardly held a lead at any point against anyone.

 

On Saturday when we were 2-0 up we needed to shut up shop for a while and let them get frustrated.

We are getting better at chasing games but holding onto leads is unknown territory.

 

NL called it game management and I think this is what needs to improve.

[Mounts Kipper]

I'm sorry but I cannot take this comparison seriously. As you say, the chelsea team is full of world class players that have proved in the past how good they are, whilst their current form is quite funny we all know it won't last long and they will come good again.

 

Our team on the other hand is full of journeymen with a light sprinkling of talent. They have never done anything of note and I am never confident of us getting a win these days. A couple of psychotherapy sessions will not help us im afraid

I am convinced some simple sessions with a sports psychologist or even a sports motivational expert would help, most top teams use one and let's face it we have tried everything else, what have we to lose?

[Rembrandt]

I think we have benefitted from late goals this season as many times as we have conceded them.

We rescued a point late on at home to Brighton and Forest.

 

Our biggest issue is that apart from Wolves we have never gone into the last ten minutes of any game this season with a lead.

That sounds like a dull statement but we have hardly held a lead at any point against anyone.

 

On Saturday when we were 2-0 up we needed to shut up shop for a while and let them get frustrated.

We are getting better at chasing games but holding onto leads is unknown territory.

 

NL called it game management and I think this is what needs to improve.

And game management starts in the head - thinking the game like a professional footballer, not like a playground schoolboy.

[Farrelli]

Indeed, and this is when you expect the experienced players to influence things.

[gonzo]

I am convinced some simple sessions with a sports psychologist or even a sports motivational expert would help, most top teams use one and let's face it we have tried everything else, what have we to lose?

Think we could do with one in here.

[Rembrandt]

BSA inherited a squad with little quality. At the beginning of the 2000/2001 season, he was scratching around for 1st team players to field an 11. He went on to win the play-offs and then shock the Premier League with a blistering start. He then began serious player recruitment.

 

But he also explored sports technologies from around the world, pioneering some in this country. He led the club to its best decade for 80 years.

 

I'd rather trust BSA's open-minded approach than munchkin ramblings from planet Oz.

Edited October 6, 2015 by Rembrandt

[Casino]

The first sentence was such utter bollocks I didn't read the rest

[ianofcleveleys]

If our team of last season was so devoid of ability we'd have ended up bottom. They'd got themselves in positions where they were in line to beat or take a point off a number of teams, which suggests they had some ability. What they couldn't do as get over the line, and once it happened more than once it became an Achilles heel. It needed addressing at the time, or at least as part of pre-season.  I may of course be doing Lenny a dis-service here and some work may well have been done, but it's had little effect and he seemed as non-plussed as before after Saturday's game.

 

We have indeed got some late goals ourselves and gained some points from that, but it's the not being able to hold on to wins or draws, especially away, that's killing us. 

 

I know we've a pretty limited team, and physically we still get bullied too often for me, but we've shown enough to suggest that we can finish above enough teams to keep us in this League if we can get better at the game management.

[Dunnoy'know]

Last seasons honeymoon period was enough to give the players some sort of kick up the arse and be the catalyst for a temporary improvement.

 

Let's face it, we've been awful since then, only a slightly bit better than the freedman days but still awful and that's not Lennons fault. Without investment we will be worried about relegation a lot

[burnden]

Neil Lennon has been charged with misconduct for comments he made following the game against QPR on Saturday #bwfc

[famouswanderer]

Not surprised. 

 

Why shouldn't managers be able to say the referee was poor? It always reminds me of a dictatorship regime. You must not say anything negative or you will punished. Pathetic really.

[Casino]

Last seasons honeymoon period was enough to give the players some sort of kick up the arse

 

most of those players arent playing for us, now

 

still awful and that's not Lennons fault.

 

so, its been the managers fault since sammy lee but now its not

 

 

for all we have no money, lennon has chosen to build a squad with 8 senior defenders

 

and we were 2-0 up and level at 3-3 on saturday

 

its his team, his players

 

hopefully, we get better cos theres plenty potential

Edited October 6, 2015 by Casino

[Naytch]

Not surprised. 

 

Why shouldn't managers be able to say the referee was poor? It always reminds me of a dictatorship regime. You must not say anything negative or you will punished. Pathetic really.

Just been discussing this in work.

 

Whats the point of managers being interviewed?? They can't say anything of interest, can't criticise opponents or the ref or else they get charged. It's pathetic like you say.

[Casino]

he called the referee a cheat

 

hes called referees bad and nothings happened