On a few threads the debate get triggered if NL is the right man for the job / should he be immune from criticism, given all the circumstances. I was and still am in the "NL will come good camp" but after watching (yes from my armchair) the dross on Saturday had a first moment of doubt. Key question I reckon is even accepting the dire finances, if we had a proven Championship manager at the helm would he get more out of the current crop of players than NL does - the squad on paper at least isn't bottom 3 is it, or am I deluded? No point looking back but if Gartside's bingo machine had come up with say Chris Hughton or even Neil Warnock can't help but think the table would be different now, even if the players weren't.

 

NLSWA........and praying for miracle.

 chip the ball out to the guy on their right side just stood on his own.

 

it was almost funny in the end

 

it had to be a a piss take of their mon

There seems to be an assumption that a goalscorer is just someone who taps it in? There are players who are capable of making and scoring goals by themselves by picking the ball up deep and carrying it e.g Patrick Bamford last season was unplayable.

Those players are very rare and highly unlikely we'll get one anytime soon

Bollocks, Bamford can't get a game at Palace.

Bollocks, Bamford can't get a game at Palace.

 

Which is weird becuase they have had injuries and their strikers aren't really scoring any goals. 

it was almost funny in the end

 

it had to be a a piss take of their mon

 

Their man on the right seemed to be confused by the whole thing. He didn't really make the most of the space he was getting. If he'd have been half decent we would of been fucked.

Their man on the right seemed to be confused by the whole thing. He didn't really make the most of the space he was getting. If he'd have been half decent we would of been fucked.

 

Maybe that was the reason for the master-plan of leaving him unmarked?

Maybe that was the reason for the master-plan of leaving him unmarked?

 

 

good point

 

we seem to do it a lot with opposition strikers

There seems to be an assumption that a goalscorer is just someone who taps it in? There are players who are capable of making and scoring goals by themselves by picking the ball up deep and carrying it e.g Patrick Bamford last season was unplayable.

Wigan have signed a Dutch winger from Boro on loan, he's been getting rave reviews, I know he's playing at a league below us, but it's a pity we didn't sign him.

A goalscorer wouldn't change much as we don't create clear cut chances, forget the debt and state of the club, the style of football is dire, way to slow and too many sideways/backwards passes what happened to the high intensity football he promised us. Would like a change before we get cut adrift

A change to who?

A change to who?

 

Mourinho, as he looks to be on borrowed time at Chelsea

Mourinho, as he looks to be on borrowed time at Chelsea

Can't see him scoring more than 10 a season

 

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Would love Pearson but highly unlikely can't be any worse no matter who comes, seems like the players aren't playing for him

I blame NL he sets the team up and dictates the style of play we just don't look fit enough ! Still don't understand why sign 2 right backs and play a cart horse instead for me NL as 3 games to get a win otherwise get shut if we don't we will be playing league1 football next season. I really want him to succeed though!

highly unlikely can't be any worse no matter who comes,

Been used before and its showed to to be completely wrong

 

 

A change to who?

Would love Pearson but highly unlikely can't be any worse no matter who comes, seems like the players aren't playing for him

Highly unlikely being an understatement to the highest degree.

 

We have absolutely no chance of getting anyone of that calibre. We are in a complete mess. No money and a sqaud full of championhip journeymen.

 

We'd be looking at Phil Brown or some other dufus from league 1 or below.

 

I lost all faith in our players on Saturday. Tactics aside...if you can't get yourself motivated for a local derby 6 pointer in front of a packed away end then there's no manager in the world that can talk any sense in to you.

 

I personally don't think Lennon has lost the players. I reckon they are just fucking crap.

Edited November 3, 201510 yr by gonzo

things that suggest the players aren't crap

 

performance against derby

 

much of the game v qpr

 

44 minutes at huddersfield

 

in those games we played pretty well for large periods

 

 

id say we are inconsistent, short of confidence and the coaching looks shite

 

and theres some very strange selections

 

and if it gets any worse than saturday, we may as well give up

Edited November 3, 201510 yr by Casino

Flitcroft just talked sense on GMR...

 

Oh, apart from thinking each club should get equal dibs of the money

If Lennon was to get the sack, it will signal the end of Gartside.

Lose on Saturday, and Lennon is gone I would have thought

Be either apathy or a riot.

i make it 6 wins this year

 

1 this season

 

lets be honest, tonight isnt the yardstick but i feared on saturday he had completely lost the plot

 

 

 

of the team that started the season, only clough and moxey aren't available

 

clough offered very little and can be replaced by clayton

 

moxey has been replaced by casado

 

 

why cant we get back to basics and try to get back to that

 

seems pretty obvious but it did involve playing a right back

things that suggest the players aren't crap

 

performance against derby

 

much of the game v qpr

 

44 minutes at huddersfield

 

in those games we played pretty well for large periods

 

 

id say we are inconsistent, short of confidence and the coaching looks shite

 

and theres some very strange selections

 

and if it gets any worse than saturday, we may as well give up

Nail on head. Knowing your best team and formation and sticking to it. We seem to be cursed with managers of late who haven't a clue in that respect. Ok you get injuries, but that shouldn't mean your defence is a group of passing strangers each match.

tbf, when youre a manager losing regular you must feel like youre getting dragged down the plughole and you frantically look fora way of not going under

 

what gets me about NL is that hes had the easiest ride imaginable

 

hes come under no pressure from the fans and really should be able to do his own thing and stick by his convictions instead of having 10/12 k experts screaming abuse at him

 

 

my worry is that his convictions might be 352

Lennon is looking, at present, like a pretty poor manager. I know he is working under financial constraints, but then so are a lot of the other managers in this division. We really are awful. Lennon has had a fairly easy ride so far, but I suspect that is t going to last much longer. He's fairly lucky the crowd will more likely be directing their frustrations in the direction of PG

 

 

The atmosphere on Saturday is probably going to be fairly toxic if the last Saturday is anything to go by.....not that it'll help the team much.