is that it now game over no chance of POTUS

 

Rayguns out

Mind you

Starmer is bang to rights about some Ukranian rent boys despite zero evidence.

However all the pics of Trump with Jeff are fake.

1 hour ago, Zico said:

aye, I agree, but not on the bit about ever being on the plane, which according to the flight logs, from the 90s, he was

he could have said he'd been on the plane but never went to the island if that was the case

or maybe he's that old he's just forgot

his denial reminds me of when Andrew said "I've nevet met this girl", "I was at pizza express" and "it can't be true because I cannot sweat"

then gave the girl $12M

Not defending the slimy fucker in any way, shape or form but no one ever paid someone off to just make it go away ever before, whether true or not, did they 

25 minutes ago, bolty58 said:

Not defending the slimy fucker in any way, shape or form but no one ever paid someone off to just make it go away ever before, whether true or not, did they 

Given what happened to him next, like being stripped of his title and medals and basically booted out the family, fair to say it didn't go away 

Unlike, for example Michael Jackson who went on to have several number ones after he paid someone off

Hiring a lawyer to prove he was in pizza express and that he doesn't sweat would've been cheaper 

5 hours ago, bolty58 said:

Love to know would you? Flattered that you care that much.

I'll go with widely recognised legal limits if that's OK with you? Don't expect any sympathy from me for Epstein, AMW or any other filthy fucking paedo's will you. Can hang them all for me - including Trump if anything is ever proven.

Unsurprisingly, I won't contemplate the legal limits on suitable age for sexual activity in Sharia law mind. Should I be sent on a social cohesion diversity and inclusion course do you think?

So 17 year old girls being flown about to meet up with 40-50 year old blokes and Princes is ok.

 

44 minutes ago, bolty58 said:

Not defending the slimy fucker in any way, shape or form but no one ever paid someone off to just make it go away ever before, whether true or not, did they 

‘Not defending in any way……but….’ 

 

1 hour ago, bolty58 said:

Not defending the slimy fucker in any way, shape or form but no one ever paid someone off to just make it go away ever before, whether true or not, did they 

If you've done nowt wrong and can afford the legal fees, why the fuck would you pay someone off.

Only logical reasons for a pay off

1. you did it

2. you didn't do it but you're worried that other shit you've done will come to light

3. it's significantly cheaper to pay them off than the legal costs.

Feel free to add any I've missed.

9 hours ago, royal white said:

Never any proof of Trump being on the island

No news outlet have ever said he was 

no witnesses have ever said he was 

No dems have ever said he was 

No flight logs, videos, pictures 

 

WWs - he was 😆😆

Is it just me or is the lack of US scandal in these 3 million documents suprising?

They haven't just been gathering dust in a vault for the past few months... people will have been working on them.

The only scandal appears to be with regards to the UK players... looks like a classic "deflection" technique at work. 

Putin is mentioned in the Epstein files over a thousand times. The FSB had him in their pocket I reckon.

Just now, Dimron said:

Is it just me or is the lack of US scandal in these 3 million documents suprising?

They haven't just been gathering dust in a vault for the past few months... people will have been working on them.

The only scandal appears to be with regards to the UK players... looks like a classic "deflection" technique at work. 

Of course, some pages are entirely redacted but most are completely useless anyway.

Except for ones they have allowed to drip out about foreign royalty and politicians of course. Not that I am bothered, they deserve all that's coming to them but it is deflection for sure.

21 minutes ago, Winchester White said:

Of course, some pages are entirely redacted but most are completely useless anyway.

Except for ones they have allowed to drip out about foreign royalty and politicians of course. Not that I am bothered, they deserve all that's coming to them but it is deflection for sure.

Bury the Trump stuff, keep a bit of Clinton and big up the stuff on British Royalty and the Gay Lord and the press will be kept happy until some other news story comes along

45 minutes ago, Dimron said:

Bury the Trump stuff, keep a bit of Clinton and big up the stuff on British Royalty and the Gay Lord and the press will be kept happy until some other news story comes along

It is all just a cesspit , political figures on both sides will be involved. Plenty more overseas not just the UK was reading this morning the Crown princess of Norway is included, ( her son currently on rape charges) 

The irony is that a few politicians who bought into Trumps ‘drain the swamp’ mantra Taylor Green for instance are amongst the ones most vocally turning on him whilst others from both sides of the political debate who should be more vocal are incredibly quiet. MTG has said that Trump told her ‘my friends would get hurt’ if the files were released. The elephant in the room is that if Epstein was doing all this who else was doing similar across the world ? And who still is ? 

21 minutes ago, Ani said:

It is all just a cesspit , political figures on both sides will be involved. Plenty more overseas not just the UK was reading this morning the Crown princess of Norway is included, ( her son currently on rape charges) 

The irony is that a few politicians who bought into Trumps ‘drain the swamp’ mantra Taylor Green for instance are amongst the ones most vocally turning on him whilst others from both sides of the political debate who should be more vocal are incredibly quiet. MTG has said that Trump told her ‘my friends would get hurt’ if the files were released. The elephant in the room is that if Epstein was doing all this who else was doing similar across the world ? And who still is ? 

The Tories need to keep their heads down, I don't recall the Greensill business was ever put to bed even though the Serious Fraud Office were investigating

I ask again

Why all the redactions of people over the age of 16?

I'm still in the - there's not enough to prosecute DT with anything camp.

Lots of innuendo and embarrassing emails. But still no smoking gun as far as I can see.

And I don't think any of the victims have come forward to say that they were abused by DT either have they? 

Or have I missed something? 

18 minutes ago, Spider said:

I ask again

Why all the redactions of people over the age of 16?

I don't think they have have they?

I was reading about redactions a minute ago. And who makes the decision and on what grounds depends on who the files were released by. If it's the FBI (who are basically in Trump's pocket nowadays) then they can redact (in the interests of national security). 

If it's the courts (where most of the information has come from) - then apparently it's the lawyers who make the requests for redactions on behalf of their clients. And a judge who makes the final call. In this instance - someone called Loretta Preska - who was Republican nominated under GW Bush and isn't known for making any specific statements about DT one way or the other. 

 

40 minutes ago, kent_white said:

I'm still in the - there's not enough to prosecute DT with anything camp.

Lots of innuendo and embarrassing emails. But still no smoking gun as far as I can see.

And I don't think any of the victims have come forward to say that they were abused by DT either have they? 

Or have I missed something? 

Nope, that’s pretty much bang on. There’s some WWs posters who are privy to evidence not yet seen by the FBI, DOJ so until they hand that over that’s pretty much it. 

 

1 hour ago, kent_white said:

I'm still in the - there's not enough to prosecute DT with anything camp.

Lots of innuendo and embarrassing emails. But still no smoking gun as far as I can see.

And I don't think any of the victims have come forward to say that they were abused by DT either have they? 

Or have I missed something? 

Apart from that woman he raped and had to give nigh on 90 milllion dollars to?

I’ll give Trump this - ensuring he became president was a killer move to make sure he could control and influence the files.

I imagine that once he shits himself to death, preferably sooner not later, then the whole truth will out.

For now, I’m happy basing my opinion on the fact that he’s guilty as fuck because just fucking look at his history.

5 minutes ago, Spider said:

I’ll give Trump this - ensuring he became president was a killer move to make sure he could control and influence the files.

I imagine that once he shits himself to death, preferably sooner not later, then the whole truth will out.

For now, I’m happy basing my opinion on the fact that he’s guilty as fuck because just fucking look at his history.

Aye. When a person tells you what they are, believe them. 

29 minutes ago, mickbrown said:

Apart from that woman he raped and had to give nigh on 90 milllion dollars to?

Which is a different (albeit related issue). 

He certainly paid a lot of money to keep it out of a criminal court. 

But by the book, he's not a convicted sex offender. 

21 minutes ago, mickbrown said:

Aye. When a person tells you what they are, believe them. 

To be fair - he's also told us that he is 'the best US President ever. Apart from maybe Lincoln's 

So I'm not taking his word on that either. 

The fact is - from my perspective. We've not information (currently) to suggest that Trump is a nonce. 

That doesn't mean he is one. And it doesn't mean he isn't one. It just means that we don't have any information that definitely suggests he is. And I'm in the 'innocent until proven guilty' camp. Even if that means someone I don't agree with on most issues - like DT - is afforded the same privilege. 

15 minutes ago, kent_white said:

Which is a different (albeit related issue). 

He certainly paid a lot of money to keep it out of a criminal court. 

But by the book, he's not a convicted sex offender. 

Jimmy Savile died an innocent man

15 minutes ago, Spider said:

Jimmy Savile died an innocent man

True. 

And there's every chance the same might happen with DT. 

But right here, right now he's innocent in my book (at least on charges of being a nonce). 

This made me laugh by the way and may be of amusement to Royal and Bolty! 😁

1 hour ago, kent_white said:

Which is a different (albeit related issue). 

He certainly paid a lot of money to keep it out of a criminal court. 

But by the book, he's not a convicted sex offender. 

Walks like a duck, sounds like a duck……..