mickbrown Posted February 3 Posted February 3 1 hour ago, kent_white said: Which is a different (albeit related issue). He certainly paid a lot of money to keep it out of a criminal court. But by the book, he's not a convicted sex offender. Walks like a duck, sounds like a duck…….. Quote
kent_white Posted February 3 Posted February 3 1 minute ago, mickbrown said: Walks like a duck, sounds like a duck…….. I get it. I get it. We've always known he's a misogynist. It's just a big jump from that to kiddy fiddling. Quote
royal white Posted February 3 Posted February 3 1 hour ago, kent_white said: Which is a different (albeit related issue). He certainly paid a lot of money to keep it out of a criminal court. But by the book, he's not a convicted sex offender. Not entirely true. The “rape” happened in the mid 90s, by the time the lady and her 2 best mates remembered it was to late to press charges and conveniently enough it was also the time Trump was President. Quote
kent_white Posted February 3 Posted February 3 Just now, royal white said: Not entirely true. The “rape” happened in the mid 90s, by the time the lady and her 2 best mates remembered it was to late to press charges and conveniently enough it was also the time Trump was President. I'm not going to start judging these women either. And I imagine Trump wasn't short of a few quid before he got anywhere near public office. Maybe it was different for them when they didn't have to see his face on TV everyday? Quote
royal white Posted February 3 Posted February 3 (edited) 14 minutes ago, kent_white said: I'm not going to start judging these women either. And I imagine Trump wasn't short of a few quid before he got anywhere near public office. Maybe it was different for them when they didn't have to see his face on TV everyday? Or maybe trying to get one over the president Sounds better than a TV show host / businessman doesn’t it. Edited February 3 by royal white Quote
kent_white Posted February 3 Posted February 3 8 minutes ago, royal white said: Or maybe trying to get one over the one over the president. Sounds better than a TV show host / businessman doesn’t it. I suppose if money was their motivation then it wouldn't really matter. Of you think it was politically motivated then that's different. But I've not seen anything to suggest that it was in all honesty. I'd afford these women the same respect as I'm affording DT against the nonce allegations. Unless there's proof that they did something wrong. Quote
Spider Posted February 3 Posted February 3 “I knew Jeff was a bad person, probably the worst person there’s ever been, like no other bad person we’ve ever known of. I knew, because I know everything. But I decided not to alert the authorities because erm, well, <parp> I erm <wet skids forming in nappy> was busy with Sleepy Joe <smell of burnt hair> and he was a very bad person but it’s nothing to do with me and he always made sure my girls weren’t darkies but he was so bad, the worst bad of alll the bads” Quote
Not in Crawley Posted February 3 Posted February 3 3 hours ago, kent_white said: I get it. I get it. We've always known he's a misogynist. It's just a big jump from that to kiddy fiddling. I think its more the hoops some folk are happy to jump through and then condemn others. Quote
green genie Posted February 3 Posted February 3 8 hours ago, Winchester White said: Putin is mentioned in the Epstein files over a thousand times. The FSB had him in their pocket I reckon. Makes sense that Trump is his poodle. Putin wouldn’t give a shit if exposed but could no doubt take Trump down. Quote
Zico Posted February 3 Posted February 3 6 hours ago, kent_white said: To be fair - he's also told us that he is 'the best US President ever. Apart from maybe Lincoln's So I'm not taking his word on that either. The fact is - from my perspective. We've not information (currently) to suggest that Trump is a nonce. That doesn't mean he is one. And it doesn't mean he isn't one. It just means that we don't have any information that definitely suggests he is. And I'm in the 'innocent until proven guilty' camp. Even if that means someone I don't agree with on most issues - like DT - is afforded the same privilege. End of the day it's just a consistent series of allegations, if it was a one off I'd be more inclined to give benefit of the doubt And there's the time he had to pay out for actual sexual assault which means he is one And the grab them by the pussy comment, which by his own admission suggest he is one It seems pretty clear the type of man he is Chuck in Stormy Daniels, he's a bloke who thinks he can do what he wants when it comes to women because of money and power Like his old close mate Jeffrey the sex trafficker Some even find that admirable or choose to question the motives of the women making the claims If you choose not to believe what he's like because there's not a charge of guilty, fair enough But that goes for Andrew and Michael Jackson too, they had way less allegations made against them, but I'm pretty sure they are too But some will have you believe they paid them off to just to make them go away for the sake of convenience So yeah, all things considered it doesn't paint a good picture, and it's amusing the lengths folk will go to, to protest or suggest their innocence because they backed them all the way on everything else Quote
Spider Posted February 3 Posted February 3 7 minutes ago, Zico said: End of the day it's just a consistent series of allegations, if it was a one off I'd be more inclined to give benefit of the doubt And there's the time he had to pay out for actual sexual assault which means he is one And the grab them by the pussy comment, which by his own admission suggest he is one It seems pretty clear the type of man he is Chuck in Stormy Daniels, he's a bloke who thinks he can do what he wants when it comes to women because of money and power Like his old close mate Jeffrey the sex trafficker Some even find that admirable or choose to question the motives of the women making the claims If you choose not to believe what he's like because there's not a charge of guilty, fair enough But that goes for Andrew and Michael Jackson too, they had way less allegations made against them, but I'm pretty sure they are too But some will have you believe they paid them off to just to make them go away for the sake of convenience So yeah, all things considered it doesn't paint a good picture, and it's amusing the lengths folk will go to, to protest or suggest their innocence because they backed them all the way on everything else Correct Andrew is as guilty of wrongdoing as Trump is based on the files. Prove me wrong. Quote
Popular Post London Wanderer Posted February 3 Popular Post Posted February 3 "By the time they remembered the rape" Did I actually just read that as a response to a woman seeking justice? No wonder we've still got a serious problem with violence against women and girls if that's the mindset of members of the public. Quote
boltonboris Posted February 3 Posted February 3 8 minutes ago, London Wanderer said: "By the time they remembered the rape" Did I actually just read that as a response to a woman seeking justice? No wonder we've still got a serious problem with violence against women and girls if that's the mindset of members of the public. It’s fucking abhorrent Quote
London Wanderer Posted February 3 Posted February 3 37 minutes ago, boltonboris said: It’s fucking abhorrent Aye New heights being reached tonight. Just continuous desperate attempts to defend him. There are countless court cases where the victim comes forward decades later. All for valid reasons. A buffoon of a post that Quote
Not in Crawley Posted February 3 Posted February 3 Why anyone would defend any of this is beyond me Quote
Winchester White Posted February 3 Posted February 3 Just think that after all these redacted files and photos etc there is only one person in jail and that is a woman. The peado fella killed himself despite being on 24hr watch in custody. He had a massive string of evidence against him that was also used to convict Maxwell. Yet no fucker else is involved? Really? There are still loads not released, not that it matters as what has been is fucking useless unless it is a useful distraction for some. Quote
wakey Posted February 3 Posted February 3 20 minutes ago, Spider said: He just had no idea, the poor, innocent president. clearly a fake picture. No way Trump would let the dark kid be there. Quote
wakey Posted February 3 Posted February 3 2 minutes ago, Winchester White said: Just think that after all these redacted files and photos etc there is only one person in jail and that is a woman. The peado fella killed himself despite being on 24hr watch in custody. He had a massive string of evidence against him that was also used to convict Maxwell. Yet no fucker else is involved? Really? There are still loads not released, not that it matters as what has been is fucking useless unless it is a useful distraction for some. supposedly some paper / magazine has studied the last 24 hours cctv from outside Epstein's cell and found 3 minutes missing. Presume it's bollocks or there'd be more made about it by now. Quote
royal white Posted February 3 Posted February 3 (edited) 1 hour ago, Zico said: End of the day it's just a consistent series of allegations, if it was a one off I'd be more inclined to give benefit of the doubt And there's the time he had to pay out for actual sexual assault which means he is one And the grab them by the pussy comment, which by his own admission suggest he is one It seems pretty clear the type of man he is Chuck in Stormy Daniels, he's a bloke who thinks he can do what he wants when it comes to women because of money and power Like his old close mate Jeffrey the sex trafficker Some even find that admirable or choose to question the motives of the women making the claims If you choose not to believe what he's like because there's not a charge of guilty, fair enough But that goes for Andrew and Michael Jackson too, they had way less allegations made against them, but I'm pretty sure they are too But some will have you believe they paid them off to just to make them go away for the sake of convenience So yeah, all things considered it doesn't paint a good picture, and it's amusing the lengths folk will go to, to protest or suggest their innocence because they backed them all the way on everything else Almost as amusing as people just making loads of shit up, if there so much that has already been proved why the need to make things up? It’s just odd Edited February 3 by royal white Quote
royal white Posted February 3 Posted February 3 1 hour ago, London Wanderer said: "By the time they remembered the rape" Did I actually just read that as a response to a woman seeking justice? No wonder we've still got a serious problem with violence against women and girls if that's the mindset of members of the public. She wasn’t raped and he wasn’t found guilty of rape. You’re another that’s has fallen for the silly lies. Quote
kent_white Posted February 3 Posted February 3 1 hour ago, Zico said: End of the day it's just a consistent series of allegations, if it was a one off I'd be more inclined to give benefit of the doubt And there's the time he had to pay out for actual sexual assault which means he is one And the grab them by the pussy comment, which by his own admission suggest he is one It seems pretty clear the type of man he is Chuck in Stormy Daniels, he's a bloke who thinks he can do what he wants when it comes to women because of money and power Like his old close mate Jeffrey the sex trafficker Some even find that admirable or choose to question the motives of the women making the claims If you choose not to believe what he's like because there's not a charge of guilty, fair enough But that goes for Andrew and Michael Jackson too, they had way less allegations made against them, but I'm pretty sure they are too But some will have you believe they paid them off to just to make them go away for the sake of convenience So yeah, all things considered it doesn't paint a good picture, and it's amusing the lengths folk will go to, to protest or suggest their innocence because they backed them all the way on everything else Listen. I'll let you guess whether or not I'd let Donald Trump babysit my kids 😁 I know what kind of 'man' he is. He's a spoilt little bully, surrounded by sycophants. With an extremely questionable moral compass (at best) - and psychotic/narcissistic overtones at worst. I wouldn't trust him as far as I could throw him. I think he's an absolutely horrendous human being. I've just not seen anything from the files that makes me conclude he's a weapons grade nonce. Although - I'd put the probability of him engaging in that kind of behaviour as quite high. Just no proof.... And he's pretty much got the DOJ and FBI under instruction. So it's down to this judge I was speaking about earlier. I have to say though - I'm glad to see the UK still has an understanding of right and wrong. And that people like Mandleson and Andrew have been shunned. The US could learn from us for once! Quote
royal white Posted February 3 Posted February 3 5 minutes ago, kent_white said: Listen. I'll let you guess whether or not I'd let Donald Trump babysit my kids 😁 I know what kind of 'man' he is. He's a spoilt little bully, surrounded by sycophants. With an extremely questionable moral compass (at best) - and psychotic/narcissistic overtones at worst. I wouldn't trust him as far as I could throw him. I think he's an absolutely horrendous human being. I've just not seen anything from the files that makes me conclude he's a weapons grade nonce. Although - I'd put the probability of him engaging in that kind of behaviour as quite high. Just no proof.... And he's pretty much got the DOJ and FBI under instruction. So it's down to this judge I was speaking about earlier. I have to say though - I'm glad to see the UK still has an understanding of right and wrong. And that people like Mandleson and Andrew have been shunned. The US could learn from us for once! Steady on! Have you seen some of the sentences handed out over here lately? And wasn’t Mandleson employed by Labour even though it was known he was friendly with Epstein. Quote
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