As the most used BWFC fan site, we'd like to gauge opinion

Join the club. Shitty suited hypocrite.

Join the club. Shitty suited hypocrite.

 

The whole of the Nuts forum has been blocked presumably because of one person (me) posting copies of his disparaging tweets about Anderson on the forum and referring to them again recently since he took over Chairmanship of the ST.

 

I nor anyone on Nuts have ever abused him either on twitter, Nuts, or anywhere else.  It would look as though the site has been blocked simply because I expressed an opinion of him not being suitable to lead the ST due to his personal mistrust of the club owner as evidenced by his public tweets.

 

I assume from your comment above that the WandersWays Twitter site as also been blocked by him too?

 

Seems that the new Chairman does not tolerate any negativity towards him, even when it is a factual reference to what he has already made on public social media.

 

It doesn't bode well for the future of the ST under his stewardship particularly if you disagree with his public stated views on Ken Anderson.

 

Shameful behaviour from a man chairing the body that purports to speak for the fans whilst he blocks whole BWFC forums for simply pointing out what he has tweeted in the past.

Wifi is a good idea.

I might join if they get free wifi

I assume from your comment above that the WandersWays Twitter site as also been blocked by him too?

 

I don't have access to the WW account so have no idea.

 

I made a disparaging comment about the ST, as a member, and he was one of the people in the "convo". Mustn't have liked it. Hey ho.

The ironic thing is that Bridgey has been given the boot and they've toned down massively, which is all I was saying really; that the organisation as it was didn't represent me (a member).

Ah, thanks, I had thought you had meant he'd blocked the WW twitter account.

 

At Nuts several people have access to out twitter account and to ban a whole site presumably just because I referred to his past publically stated views of the clubs owner on the forum seems a complete and total over reaction and a controlling and punishing, needless knee jerk reaction from him - particularly because he did say those things against Anderson in the first place and countless people (no doubt the Anderson family themselves) have by now seen them too!

 

I can assure anyone who might be interested that never has in anyway Izza been abused on Nuts or Nuts twitter account, so his actions are clearly vindictive and intended to censor free thought and opinion.

 

It would be interesting to here the views of Mounts and other hard-core ST supporters on how its current chairman is acting towards those who simply have made honest comment such as Carlos above and the blocking of the Nuts twitter account for something factual that was repeated on its FORUM by one person only and which made no comment or retweet  whatsoever on our TWITTER account, being the social media method that as been blocked by him.

 

Does this really give you or anyone the feeling of openness and honesty to everyone and their views, or is this the action of someone being petty, vindictive and censorial to other peoples views and opinions because he doesn't agree with them?

 

Is this what you really want from your Chairman?

 

 

Couldn't give a rats arse about twatter & all that twaddle if you want to change things within the ST get yourselves up for election

 

I'm a nominal member in the 'last chance saloon ' category & don't care for all the politics

 

End of the day we are all Wanderers fans aren't we ?

#closedshop

Just because we all support the same club doesn't mean we are all sound, solid people.

 

Izza supports the club and has thrown his toys out of his pram because he doesn't like what some other fellow Wanderers say.

 

If we do find ourselves in the last chance saloon do you really want someone like that in charge of our destiny?

 

I would want someone who is inclusive of others and not divisive of them.

 

As for standing for election, have they actually had one where anybody voted yet or has it just been mates appointing more of their own mates each and every time - including in the latest press release from them above.

 

Not one single person in the ST's history has actually been elected by its membership yet!

Edited June 29, 20178 yr by Sluffy

Ooh, Gudni Bergsson friend ????????

well if you don't stand against those you disagree with so much , what's the point in waffling on about the trust on here

 

get yourself nominated I'm sure you will get supported by ST folk on here ?

Ah, thanks, I had thought you had meant he'd blocked the WW twitter account.

 

At Nuts several people have access to out twitter account and to ban a whole site presumably just because I referred to his past publically stated views of the clubs owner on the forum seems a complete and total over reaction and a controlling and punishing, needless knee jerk reaction from him - particularly because he did say those things against Anderson in the first place and countless people (no doubt the Anderson family themselves) have by now seen them too!

 

I can assure anyone who might be interested that never has in anyway Izza been abused on Nuts or Nuts twitter account, so his actions are clearly vindictive and intended to censor free thought and opinion.

 

It would be interesting to here the views of Mounts and other hard-core ST supporters on how its current chairman is acting towards those who simply have made honest comment such as Carlos above and the blocking of the Nuts twitter account for something factual that was repeated on its FORUM by one person only and which made no comment or retweet whatsoever on our TWITTER account, being the social media method that as been blocked by him.

 

Does this really give you or anyone the feeling of openness and honesty to everyone and their views, or is this the action of someone being petty, vindictive and censorial to other peoples views and opinions because he doesn't agree with them?

 

Is this what you really want from your Chairman?

My view is folk who moan and pap on but don't or won't engage might as well walk into an empty room and talk to 4 walls. If you've got something to say get involved it's not a closed shop it's for all fans to say their peice whether good or bad I'll willingly ask the Trust board to invite you or anyone one down to next meeting to allow them to get what they have to say off their chest. I did that when I was asked to give my two Penneth. Over to you.

well if you don't stand against those you disagree with so much , what's the point in waffling on about the trust on here

 

get yourself nominated I'm sure you will get supported by ST folk on here ?

 

I don't play professional football, am not a priest, or an MP, so does that mean I can't hold a view about football, religion or politics either in your world?

 

As I'm getting on a bit and live over 200 miles away from the club means that I simply don't feel the inclination or desire to put myself to the effort to stand for elections.

 

I still however have a brain in my head and can usually articulate my thoughts and opinions well enough on things I find of interest and a non elected (by the membership) Chairman of the ST, who has publically called into question the owners integrity on twitter and who has blackballed a whole BWFC forum for simply pointing this out, seems to me to be churlish at best and more likely nasty and vindictive with his actions taken.

 

Does that answer your question?

My view is folk who moan and pap on but don't or won't engage might as well walk into an empty room and talk to 4 walls. If you've got something to say get involved it's not a closed shop it's for all fans to say their peice whether good or bad I'll willingly ask the Trust board to invite you or anyone one down to next meeting to allow them to get what they have to say off their chest. I did that when I was asked to give my two Penneth. Over to you.

 

I assume then that you're a fully paid up Labour supporter who is active in his local constituency and someone with a deep and profound knowledge of law and order issues based on your outpourings on the various terrorist and political threads on this forum in recent months or do you not practice what you are preaching me to do above?

 

I'm not running back and forth across the country at my time of life but because I'm disinclined to do that it doesn't detract from the facts I have laid out today.

 

Are you happy that your unelected (by the membership) Chairman is blocking whole BWFC supporters site because someone simply referred to his extremely disparaging (and public) tweets about Anderson.  Is that what you want from your leader?  Don't you think it would be better to address those issues rather than banning people who have raised a quite legitimate concern?

 

Or can you see no wrong at all in the ST or its Chairman?

I assume then that you're a fully paid up Labour supporter who is active in his local constituency and someone with a deep and profound knowledge of law and order issues based on your outpourings on the various terrorist and political threads on this forum in recent months or do you not practice what you are preaching me to do above?

 

I'm not running back and forth across the country at my time of life but because I'm disinclined to do that it doesn't detract from the facts I have laid out today.

 

Are you happy that your unelected (by the membership) Chairman is blocking whole BWFC supporters site because someone simply referred to his extremely disparaging (and public) tweets about Anderson. Is that what you want from your leader? Don't you think it would be better to address those issues rather than banning people who have raised a quite legitimate concern?

 

Or can you see no wrong at all in the ST or its Chairman?

I could raise the point with the chairman but as you don't seem to want to engage and just moan all the time and don't see any good in anything the Trust has done I'll not bother. Cheerio.

I could raise the point with the chairman but as you don't seem to want to engage and just moan all the time and don't see any good in anything the Trust has done I'll not bother. Cheerio.

 

You'll fit right in with them Mounts.

 

Give yourself a big pat on the back.

he cant engage with him , he's block there twitter account 

he cant engage with him , he's block there twitter account

He could have he's had opportunites he's not interested in adding anything positive. He's just a troll and trolls get ignored in the end.

Edited June 29, 20178 yr by Mounts Kipper

Guess that means I'm a troll too ????

He could have he's had opportunites he's not interested in adding anything positive. He's just a troll and trolls get ignored in the end.

 

I'm not a troll though, I simply have a completely different point of view to you.

 

But you simply refuse to see it and instead believe I and anybody else who don't think the ST is the best thing since sliced bread are completely wrong.

 

As the saying goes - 'there are non so blind as those that will not see'.

 

You have a Chairman who has made disparaging remarks on public social media about the owner of the club which you crave some say in, who blocks a whole BWFC community on twitter simply because one person has referred back to those remarks, yet I'm the one completely in the wrong in your eyes.

 

You have all the attributes of a future Board member with them Mounts.

Stuffy, can you dig up the disparaging comments izza has made about Anderson

 

It would support your case

 

Fwiw I have No time for izza and his appointment by his mates is another nail in the ST coffin

I'm not a troll though, I simply have a completely different point of view to you.

 

But you simply refuse to see it and instead believe I and anybody else who don't think the ST is the best thing since sliced bread are completely wrong.

 

As the saying goes - 'there are non so blind as those that will not see'.

 

You have a Chairman who has made disparaging remarks on public social media about the owner of the club which you crave some say in, who blocks a whole BWFC community on twitter simply because one person has referred back to those remarks, yet I'm the one completely in the wrong in your eyes.

 

You have all the attributes of a future Board member with them Mounts.

I like you had some things I didn't like about the Trust was offered the chance to get involved all be it an informal meeting to discuss my thoughts and most of these thoughts were things the Trust had done I thought were wrong I said my piece and the trust explained certain things from their perspective, the second meeting I met few other life long fans who had been invited along they also spoke of their reservations of how the Trust was being run and again the board took all comments on board.

 

The upshot is 2 new board members who were co-opted temporarily until elections can be held both are well qualified as fans and in business and from what I saw no axe to grind just want the Trust to be a positive attribute to the club and the owner.

 

I think the meetings we had with the ST board has taken the Trust forward and help create a positive mood.

 

As you can see there is a route to get your views across in the correct manner without resorting to continuous poisonous remarks that don't take the club or the Trust forward.

 

I'll say it one more time if you want to be heard I'll set up a conference call where you can air your views once and for all.

 

Perhaps we can all them move on to what really matters helping BWFC in whatever way we can to be a better club and a better place to visit on Saturday afternoons.

Edited June 29, 20178 yr by Mounts Kipper

Stuffy, can you dig up the disparaging comments izza has made about Anderson

 

It would support your case

 

Fwiw I have No time for izza and his appointment by his mates is another nail in the ST coffin

I'd be interested to see these commments and what drove Izza to make the remarks he did as he does not come across as someone who'd lash out verbally without provocation. Over to you sluffy let's see it.

Edited June 29, 20178 yr by Mounts Kipper

It's taking me time to plough through all my posts on Nuts but here is one I have found.

 

It was posted on the 7th February this year which was the deadline for the last set of accounts that were filed.

 

Leading up to the close of business that day the accounts had still not been filed.

 

This was the post I made at the time -

 

http://forum.boltonnuts.co.uk/t15511-these-bloody-accounts#332486

Here's another dated 9th June, 2016.

 

The background to this is that the ST's elections were in the offing and I was predicting those unelected people on the steering group would be voted into power as nobody would know anybody else who may be standing.  I highlighted some of the actions and how they appeared to be set against the club's owners, including a tweet from Izza saying we couldn't trust anything they were saying!

 

This was on the same day as Anderson appointed Parkinson as manager!

 

http://forum.boltonnuts.co.uk/t13996-bwfcst-s-response-to-bwfc-owners-regarding-academy-funding#301053