As the most used BWFC fan site, we'd like to gauge opinion

I find it unbelievable that the trust applied for the ACV without consulting with the owner of the club. If they did it goes to show what an unprofessional shambles they are.

They're not professionals which is kind of the point

They're not professionals which is kind of the point

Daniel Izza

Board Member

Experienced in the area of sports law.

 

Mike Egan

Treasurer

Local accountant

 

Terence Rigby

Board Member

Local barrister

 

This is how they introduce themselves. A solicitor, an accountant and a barrister. Not professional. Fuck off.

Edited July 7, 20178 yr by Carlos

Well there's that then.

Superfan points, now?

Is this where we're at?

Yes he don't go to games so I take his points with pinch of salt plus he's a mentalist.

Edited July 7, 20178 yr by Mounts Kipper

Sorry mate that is bullshit. I have not heard anyone say they support KA unconditionally. He is our only current option and he is doing a much better job than I and I expect many others expected.

 

The Trust in your posts have admitted they have got things wrong and IMO it is they that need to get their house in order before chucking shit elsewhere. If they have, as they have said, messed up running the Trust why does anyone have faith that they would be a success running a multi million pound business ?

 

You are putting a lot of faith in the idea and principle of the Trust but seemingly ignoring the fact it is run by bell ends. I have every faith that aeroplanes are a safe fast and effective way to get round the world. However I would not get on a plane flown by some bloke whose qualifications are that he has been in a passenger in plane before and reckons he fancies having a bash.

 

I'm not blindly backing the Trust or against KA my only concern is BWFC continuing to exist in the future and in my opinion it is better we have some kind of scrutiny of the owner whoever that maybe and for sure the Trust has faults but I believe the trust can improve and there are folk involved who have the clubs interests at heart, given that the trust is still young there was always going to be teething problems, however for me I'd prefer to stick with it and hope in the long run it can be a force for good. Other folk just seem to be ultra negative and don't want to even attempt to help improve and take it forward. Constructive criticism is good the trust should listen and take on board but criticism for criticsism sake does not help.

Edited July 7, 20178 yr by Mounts Kipper

t the trust applied for the ACV without consulting with the owner of the club. 

 

 

I don't care what anybody says, that's a cuntish thing to do (if true)

I don't care what anybody says, that's a cuntish thing to do (if true)

Given the uncertainty about the clubs future when the application went in I'd say it is a million miles off cuntish.

Edited July 7, 20178 yr by Mounts Kipper

Given the uncertainty about the clubs future when the application went in I'd say it is a million miles off cuntish.

I mean if it's true they did it without any discussions with the owners. As an ST, surely they know that sort of thing should at the very least be discussed with the owners of the club, before such action is taken

Where we differ is you see only wrong with the trust and only right with the owner, whereas I see right and wrongs from both sides and have no axe to grind with KA or the trust, it is quite clear to me you have an axe to grind with the trust above all else which is bordering on a mental issue for you.

Should the ACV be removed and it goes tits up resulting in the club losing the stadium I wonder what your view would be at that point, probably wont matter to you as you do not support the club by paying through the turnstile every week like proper fans do.       

 

No, where we differ is that I think with my head whereas you act with your heart.

 

It may have skipped your notice but you are the only one on this forum universally defending the ST, everybody else is critical of them in one way or another - look back through the whole thread and open your eyes.  There's non so blind as those that WILL NOT SEE as the saying goes.

 

The same views and opinions on the ST expressed by nearly everyone else on here are repeated over and over again by others across all the other various forms of social media - and not just unique and exclusive to here.

 

As for the ST, I'm completely indifferent to them as they have no chance of ever having any sway or influence within the club whatsoever as long as it isn't down to its last penny. 

 

I merely point out the absurdity of their actions and have provided links to public records on the credibility of their current and former Chairmen.

 

As for being a better fan than me, well go and give yourself a great big pat on the back.

 

Intelligence is not based on attending more matches than anyone else, maybe you hadn't realised that?

 

Shame on you for being so conceited to judge yourself better than me or anyone else who no longer attends games for whatever reasons.

 

For your information I've been in attendance at around a thousand Wanderers matches over the years and now that I'm nearing my seventies, my health no longer being perfect and facing a round trip of over 400 miles to see a home game it's time for me at my stage in life to consider my own health and well-being first and that is precisely what I've been doing for the last number of seasons.

 

Or is that some sort of a crime to your way of thinking?

 

On the plus side though I do however foresee a great career for you in the ST with your current type of attitude and blind servitude of them.

 

Please don't take that as a compliment though.

Shit fan.

No, where we differ is that I think with my head whereas you act with your heart.

 

It may have skipped your notice but you are the only one on this forum universally defending the ST, everybody else is critical of them in one way or another - look back through the whole thread and open your eyes. There's non so blind as those that WILL NOT SEE as the saying goes.

 

The same views and opinions on the ST expressed by nearly everyone else on here are repeated over and over again by others across all the other various forms of social media - and not just unique and exclusive to here.

 

As for the ST, I'm completely indifferent to them as they have no chance of ever having any sway or influence within the club whatsoever as long as it isn't down to its last penny.

 

I merely point out the absurdity of their actions and have provided links to public records on the credibility of their current and former Chairmen.

 

As for being a better fan than me, well go and give yourself a great big pat on the back.

 

Intelligence is not based on attending more matches than anyone else, maybe you hadn't realised that?

 

Shame on you for being so conceited to judge yourself better than me or anyone else who no longer attends games for whatever reasons.

 

For your information I've been in attendance at around a thousand Wanderers matches over the years and now that I'm nearing my seventies, my health no longer being perfect and facing a round trip of over 400 miles to see a home game it's time for me at my stage in life to consider my own health and well-being first and that is precisely what I've been doing for the last number of seasons.

 

Or is that some sort of a crime to your way of thinking?

 

On the plus side though I do however foresee a great career for you in the ST with your current type of attitude and blind servitude of them.

 

Please don't take that as a compliment though.

 

I'm not blind it's you who are one eyed I have said wrongs with ST and also concerned with KA all you are consumed with is dissing the trust your fucking boring fella.

Sluffy- mounts hasn't universally defended the st. He, rightly, defends the idea, and hopefully, a better, functional st should one emerge (no guarantee).

 

Mounts, please don't let your passion for bwfc get the better of you mate; I once posted about you being the sort of bloke I'd want with me 'in the trenches'. There's no need for a slagging off fest- you're better than that.

And we might need you to sort the bloody st out.

Let us hope that if the ACV gets lifted then it does not come back to haunt us, so many on here trusting K.A. unconditionally obviously some folk have no experience of how serious business men operate in the real world. I seriously hope and pray that we are not lambs being led to the slaughter, some on here are willing to go blindly while others would prefer a comfort blanket rather than just hoping K.A. always puts the club interests before his own business interests. Let us see where we are in 12 months shall we folks.

What's interesting is politically you want everything run as a business but when it comes to a very commercial industry of football you seem a bit less convinced.

 

The club is a privately run business. And has to exist using those principles. No club will do well run by committee or 'fans' with no resources behind them however well meaning.

Agree re the club, but when it comes to the st, by its nature, it should represent the (majority) fans' view- ie by committee. If it came to the st getting its hands on the club, then there would need to be a change somewhat, as you say.

If I'm reading mounts correctly, that's what he wants the st to do, but in a harmonious way, with the club. And be there as a safety net should ka not succeed.

Agree re the club, but when it comes to the st, by its nature, it should represent the (majority) fans' view- ie by committee. If it came to the st getting its hands on the club, then there would need to be a change somewhat, as you say.

If I'm reading mounts correctly, that's what he wants the st to do, but in a harmonious way, with the club. And be there as a safety net should ka not succeed.

The trust are not a safety net as they have people involved who don't want to see football clubs finances by businessmen. That is the issue. If the trust were lining up investment to be able to properly run the club should the need arise, then they'd be a safety net. But they aren't.

The trust are not a safety net as they have people involved who don't want to see football clubs finances by businessmen. That is the issue. If the trust were lining up investment to be able to properly run the club should the need arise, then they'd be a safety net. But they aren't.

We know that. That's why everyone, including mounts acknowledges that they've a lot of work to do.

That's not the issue mounts is arguing though. He feels strongly that an effective st is important, particularly given that the club's finances are still precarious.

Personally, I believe that there's more chance of ka sorting the club out, than the st sorting themselves out.

Sluffy- mounts hasn't universally defended the st. He, rightly, defends the idea, and hopefully, a better, functional st should one emerge (no guarantee).

 

Mounts, please don't let your passion for bwfc get the better of you mate; I once posted about you being the sort of bloke I'd want with me 'in the trenches'. There's no need for a slagging off fest- you're better than that.

And we might need you to sort the bloody st out.

Thanks for your comments however my view is he's got an agenda no time for him sorry I'll call him out all day long he's had his chance to get involved he's a bad apple.

We know that. That's why everyone, including mounts acknowledges that they've a lot of work to do.

That's not the issue mounts is arguing though. He feels strongly that an effective st is important, particularly given that the club's finances are still precarious.

Personally, I believe that there's more chance of ka sorting the club out, than the st sorting themselves out.

I agree that an ST is a good idea. An important one. But one hijacked by Mike Smith and his mates is never going to be for the interests of the club as most supporters would see it. I agree, more chance with Ken than the ST.

Thanks for your comments however my view is he's got an agenda no time for him sorry I'll call him out all day long he's had his chance to get involved he's a bad apple.

Fair enough, if that's how you feel.

I agree that an ST is a good idea. An important one. But one hijacked by Mike Smith and his mates is never going to be for the interests of the club as most supporters would see it. I agree, more chance with Ken than the ST.

Whatever your opinions of Mike Smith he's a Wanderer time served and paid up I'd hope and suspect he's got BWFC at heart. Regarding KA time will tell and folk need to remember he can only be judged over time and that's from someone who's happy with his tenure up to present but I'll judge him over the longer term and most likely after he's left the club.

Edited July 7, 20178 yr by Mounts Kipper

Whatever your opinions of Mike Smith he's a Wanderer time served and paid up I'd hope and suspect he's got BWFC at heart. Regarding KA time will tell and folk need to remember he can only be judged over time and that's from someone who's happy with his tenure up to present but I'll judge him over the longer term and most likely after he's left the club.

Agree on Ken. I think we are right to be extremely cautious.

 

I've not doubt Mike Smith is a fan. Jeremy Corbyn is an Arsenal fan but would you want him running your football club if you supported the gunners? This is the thing, not all fans have the same aspirations. As I said before read the twitter feed of that breezeblock guy, Smith's mate. Read it. He is a Bolton fan. But you'd not know it. Think of fans who you've seen at games, ones who abuse young academy lads if their first touch goes astray. They are all fans but you'd not want them involved in any way with the running of the club you support.

Agree on Ken. I think we are right to be extremely cautious.

 

I've not doubt Mike Smith is a fan. Jeremy Corbyn is an Arsenal fan but would you want him running your football club if you supported the gunners? This is the thing, not all fans have the same aspirations. As I said before read the twitter feed of that breezeblock guy, Smith's mate. Read it. He is a Bolton fan. But you'd not know it. Think of fans who you've seen at games, ones who abuse young academy lads if their first touch goes astray. They are all fans but you'd not want them involved in any way with the running of the club you support.

Mike smith has no intention of running BWFC let's not be silly. Regarding breeze block no idea what he tweets or who he is are his tweets endorsed by Smith? I don't know that answer but if it were me I wouldn't be hiding behind someone else to view my opinions.

Mike smith has no intention of running BWFC let's not be silly. Regarding breeze block no idea what he tweets or who he is are his tweets endorsed by Smith? I don't know that answer but if it were me I wouldn't be hiding behind someone else to view my opinions.

Mike Smith has no intention of running BWFC? His aim is for the club to be run by the ST. He himself has said that.

Theyre a set of cunts with few if any redeeming factors

Edited July 7, 20178 yr by Casino

Mike Smith has no intention of running BWFC? His aim is for the club to be run by the ST. He himself has said that.

Wouldn't think that's happening unless club goes bust and even then it would be short term until someone with where with all to fund the club was found.