Quitting palace. Where next? Back to sun'lun?

I'm sure he'll milk them for plenty cash

 

Sadly for him though, Everton is just too big for him, as much as he'd like to think it's the other way around.

 

When he leaves, he'l be better of retiring I would have though, unless he fancies a job in China, India or the US, all of whom would be happy to find him a well paid job I would have thought

 

 

Too big a club.  now your being silly.

Yeah, of course. They're just too successful for him. Apart from the fact they've won fck all since the start of the premiership and that will continue for a long, long time. 

 

I'm not saying they're too successful for him

 

What I'm saying is that for the first time, as a club manager, he's somewhere were just surviving on the last day of the season isn't deemed a success - which has been the case at every other club he's ever managed in the top division. Granted Everton were near the bottom when he took over, but i'm not having it that they were ever really in danger of going down this season.

 

Everton as a club would expect to be top 10 most seasons, that's just where they are, and I'd expect a club of their size to see finishing 10th as an absolute minimum. Allardyce would see that as success

 

 

 

Jesus......I'm turning into Pablo 

Edited April 19, 20188 yr by Sweep

I'm not saying they're too successful for him

 

What I'm saying is that for the first time, as a club manager, he's somewhere were just surviving on the last day of the season is deemed a success - which has been the case at every other club he's ever managed in the top division. Granted Everton were near the bottom when he took over, but i'm not having it that they were ever really in danger of going down this season.

 

Everton as a club would expect to be top 10 most seasons, that's just where they are, and I'd expect a club of their size to see finishing 10th as an absolute minimum. Allardyce would see that as success

 

 

 

Jesus......I'm turning into Pablo

Yup, finally another like me that understands soccerball.

I'm not saying they're too successful for him

 

What I'm saying is that for the first time, as a club manager, he's somewhere were just surviving on the last day of the season is deemed a success - which has been the case at every other club he's ever managed in the top division. Granted Everton were near the bottom when he took over, but i'm not having it that they were ever really in danger of going down this season.

 

Everton as a club would expect to be top 10 most seasons, that's just where they are, and I'd expect a club of their size to see finishing 10th as an absolute minimum. Allardyce would see that as success

 

 

 

Jesus......I'm turning into Pablo 

 

That's what Newcastle fans said, then they went down.

 

It is nonsense. In today's game what matters is what you've spent. Everton haven't until recently spent much. They are no different to the other premiership clubs. Ideas above their station. If their new owners genuinely are prepared to spend hundreds of millions to allow them to compete then fair play. But they'll still struggle to get a top manager in unless that is explicitly understood, even then there are many more attractive propositions. 

 

 

It is nonsense. In today's game what matters is what you've spent. 

 

I agree to a point, but you can still do well without spunking loads, just look at Burnley and Leicester

 

The more and more it becomes about cash, the worse it will become, even the top 6 (once Arsenal and Chelsea get their act together) will probably be the top 6 for the next 50 years - it's all a bit shit really.

 

Send the diggers in!

That's what Newcastle fans said, then they went down.

 

It is nonsense. In today's game what matters is what you've spent. Everton haven't until recently spent much. They are no different to the other premiership clubs. Ideas above their station. If their new owners genuinely are prepared to spend hundreds of millions to allow them to compete then fair play. But they'll still struggle to get a top manager in unless that is explicitly understood, even then there are many more attractive propositions.

I agree, Villa bigger than Everton and look where they are, it’s more about cash to spend and good management than crowd size. Sam is as good as it gets for a middling club like Everton even if they get Dyche he is just a younger copy of Sam.

Edited April 19, 20188 yr by Mounts Kipper

the anti scouse bias on here is laughable. anyone saying Everton are not one of the bigger clubs is a complete moonman. 

 

BSA is not what he was and is deluded. been a great manager for what clubs like us needed but he was never going to be anything more. lets be honest this guy fucked up his dream job for reasons not about his performance. 

the anti scouse bias on here is laughable. anyone saying Everton are not one of the bigger clubs is a complete moonman.

 

BSA is not what he was and is deluded. been a great manager for what clubs like us needed but he was never going to be anything more. lets be honest this guy fucked up his dream job for reasons not about his performance.

Its that bitterness sneaking out again from the little clubber cavemen types.....

the anti scouse bias on here is laughable. anyone saying Everton are not one of the bigger clubs is a complete moonman.

 

BSA is not what he was and is deluded. been a great manager for what clubs like us needed but he was never going to be anything more. lets be honest this guy fucked up his dream job for reasons not about his performance.

Who is going to do a better job than Sam? Everton are not a big draw for top managers and that’s not anti scouse bias it’s a fact.

Edited April 19, 20188 yr by Mounts Kipper

Who is going to do a better job than Sam? Everton are not a big draw for top managers and that’s not anti scouse bias it’s a fact.

So the only managers around are the top ones and sam??

 

The top managers become top managers by getting chances, and clubs taking a risk on them.

 

Also, sam is not going well at all, 4 wins in last 19. He is slightly doing better than what koeman got sacked for.

Edited April 19, 20188 yr by Pablo

This is surely only going to end one way, with a pay off

 

"Everton have sent a survey to a group of supporters asking them to rate manager Sam Allardyce's performance on a scale of zero to 10."

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/43804196

Fatty saying it was a marketing slip even though the mid table club do it several times a year......he doesn’t like criticism does he ?

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/43828033

Fatty saying it was a marketing slip even though the mid table club do it several times a year......he doesn’t like criticism does he ?

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/43828033

This story says even the chairman apologised

 

And he'd give himself 11

 

http://google.com/newsstand/s/CBIw0NrenTg

I think he is just having a laugh, and knows full well he will be gone soon with his £6 million pay off.

 

Watching the fans fume and cry about him, bet he is loving it.

So the only managers around are the top ones and sam??

 

The top managers become top managers by getting chances, and clubs taking a risk on them.

 

Also, sam is not going well at all, 4 wins in last 19. He is slightly doing better than what koeman got sacked for.

 

Who’s going to do a better job? Koeman spent the money and had you bottom 6 that’s why he was sacked Sam done better than Koeman has took you to 9th, would take you top 7 most likely next year that’s as good as you can expect for a club like Everton.

This story says even the chairman apologised

 

And he'd give himself 11

 

http://google.com/newsstand/s/CBIw0NrenTg

Rumour has it his wife wouldn’t give him 1.

If you haven't listened to Athletico Mince yet, you really should.

 

The British Manager's Club is the most accurate (and most hilarious) portrayal of our pool of British management talent you'll ever hear.

I'm into Peter Beardsley's jokes at the moment.

 

"I've got a new job at the bowling alley love"

 

"Ten pin?"

 

"No it's a permanent contract like"

Edited April 19, 20188 yr by kent_white

Who is going to do a better job than Sam? Everton are not a big draw for top managers and that’s not anti scouse bias it’s a fact.

Quite a few I reckon. They are bobbins. He’s truly lost the dressing room.

 

Everton are a draw for a good manager.....believing otherwise is just odd

Who’s going to do a better job? Koeman spent the money and had you bottom 6 that’s why he was sacked Sam done better than Koeman has took you to 9th, would take you top 7 most likely next year that’s as good as you can expect for a club like Everton.

Had koeman not been sacked, with the points he was picking up.....we would be around the same position we are in now.

 

That is a fact, bacause sam is delivering very similar points per game as koeman did.

 

Loads and loads of managers would do better, because they try to win games. Sam doesn't, its just his way, like all the other anti-football british managers.

 

We have been out-played twice by West Brom....and sam called these games “great results”.

 

He is just not very good anymore.

Edited April 19, 20188 yr by Pablo

Allow me to be the voice of reason. In the 25 years of the Premier League - Everton's best finish was 4th and their lowest was 17th.

 

They finished in the following places

 

7,11,11,5,6,7,7,8,5,5,6,11,4,17,7,15,16,13,14,17,15,6,15,17,13 which totals 258.

 

Divide that by 25 and you get an average league placement if 10.32.

 

Ot alternately - a manager who is currently performing better than Everton should expect (if we're looking at league placements).

 

I reckon Allardyce is a decent Premier League Manager - I reckon Everton are a decent Premier League club. I think they are probably quite well matched.

Edited April 19, 20188 yr by kent_white

Allow me to be the voice of reason. In the 25 years of the Premier League - Everton's best finish was 4th and their lowest was 17th.

 

They finished in the following places

 

7,11,11,5,6,7,7,8,5,5,6,11,4,17,7,15,16,13,14,17,15,6,15,17,13 which totals 258.

 

Divide that by 25 and you get an average league placement if 10.32.

 

Ot alternately - a manager who is currently performing better than Everton should expect (if we're looking at league placements).

 

I reckon Allardyce is a decent Premier League Manager - I reckon Everton are a decent Premier League club. I think they are probably quite well matched.

Good stats pal.

 

I’ll have to retract my earlier statement of Everton being a mid table club as those excellent stats clearly show they’re actually proven to be bottom half....

Quite a few I reckon. They are bobbins. He’s truly lost the dressing room.

 

Everton are a draw for a good manager.....believing otherwise is just odd

 

Still waiting for a name.

Allow me to be the voice of reason. In the 25 years of the Premier League - Everton's best finish was 4th and their lowest was 17th.

 

They finished in the following places

 

7,11,11,5,6,7,7,8,5,5,6,11,4,17,7,15,16,13,14,17,15,6,15,17,13 which totals 258.

 

Divide that by 25 and you get an average league placement if 10.32.

 

Ot alternately - a manager who is currently performing better than Everton should expect (if we're looking at league placements).

 

I reckon Allardyce is a decent Premier League Manager - I reckon Everton are a decent Premier League club. I think they are probably quite well matched.

New money, new ambitions.

We’ll see

 

Everton are/were a big club

 

Sam, as he will tell you, is a top manager

 

Will he be given gazillions to spend in summer to catch up with the other big clubs?

 

We’ll see

We’ll see

 

Everton are/were a big club

 

Sam, as he will tell you, is a top manager

 

Will he be given gazillions to spend in summer to catch up with the other big clubs?

 

We’ll see

With a salary of £6 mill plus, and transfer budget of maybe £150 million plus, quite a few managers would be interested in that.

I agree to a point, but you can still do well without spunking loads, just look at Burnley and Leicester

 

The more and more it becomes about cash, the worse it will become, even the top 6 (once Arsenal and Chelsea get their act together) will probably be the top 6 for the next 50 years - it's all a bit shit really.

 

Send the diggers in!

Dyche is doing well because Burnley fans accept what they are. 14 home goals this season. If Everton fans accepted a manager like that they’d be better for it. But they won’t because they are deluded.

 

They have a shit ground. In a shit area and are dwarfed by a bigger club. Always have been. Unless they start spending serious money regularly that’s what they will always be.