January 15, 20188 yr Does that mean he over performs when he's there, or that he leaves them in a massive mess? Both.
January 15, 20188 yr Does that mean he over performs when he's there, or that he leaves them in a massive mess? He's probably the best in the game at taking a struggling club and turning it around. Get Allardyce in and you're virtually a shoe-in to survive. He's just a very good manager and there aren't many round who can do it. However, equally appointing him now is a short term measure that means as a club you're probably not focussed on longer term progression given you've appointed a perceived fire fighter. I mean he's better than that, but that's the situation he finds himself in now.
January 15, 20188 yr I mean he's better than that, but that's the situation he finds himself in now. I agree. He's never, ever going to get one of the big club jobs, Everton is about as big as he's ever going to get, so hopefully he makes a fist of it and wins a trophy - as that is sadly lacking from his CV at present
January 15, 20188 yr His managerial career is mirroring his playing career. Enjoy a good spell with one club and then make money by a series of short-term contracts.
January 15, 20188 yr I agree. He's never, ever going to get one of the big club jobs, Everton is about as big as he's ever going to get, so hopefully he makes a fist of it and wins a trophy - as that is sadly lacking from his CV at present Newcastle, Sunderland and West Ham all bigger than Everton. Edited January 15, 20188 yr by Mounts Kipper
January 15, 20188 yr Even a devoted manc can surely accept Everton are a big club ? Mid size club not as big as the other 3 mentioned clubs.
January 15, 20188 yr Sunderland aren’t a bigger club than Everton West Ham and Newcastle are on a par I would say
January 16, 20188 yr Sunderland aren’t a bigger club than Everton West Ham and Newcastle are on a par I would say West ham possibly were on par but new stadium makes them bigger Newcastle are much bigger club than Everton, Sunderland despite zero success have bigger support than Everton when in the top league and for me bigger club, all 3 haven’t had the success of Everton and had many more downs, disappointments and relegations than Everton and that makes their support all the more impressive and just to highlight Sunderland when they got relegated with a paltry 24 points they still had bigger crowds than Everton who qualified for Europe that season. Edited January 16, 20188 yr by Mounts Kipper
January 16, 20188 yr West ham possibly were on par but new stadium makes them bigger Newcastle are much bigger club than Everton, Sunderland despite zero success have bigger support than Everton when in the top league and for me bigger club, all 3 haven’t had the success of Everton and had many more downs, disappointments and relegations than Everton and that makes their support all the more impressive and just to highlight Sunderland when they got relegated with a paltry 24 points they still had bigger crowds than Everton who qualified for Europe that season. Size of a stadium restricts support but a big stadium Doesn’t make a big team. But it’s all opinion when it comes to what’s a big club etc
January 16, 20188 yr we shared a train home with some decent burnley fans on saturday it only took them an hour to get around to how big they are they didnt know where to go when i accepted they were bigger than us
January 16, 20188 yr we shared a train home with some decent burnley fans on saturday it only took them an hour to get around to how big they are they didnt know where to go when i accepted they were bigger than us They did know you were tongue in cheek didn't they?
January 16, 20188 yr Ain’t much between us Aye chuck some fancy floodlights on their ground and there fook all between us. They're having their day in the sun just like we did.
January 16, 20188 yr they are bigger than us currently in fact, they're massively bigger than us not for them looking down the back of the settee for some coppers anybody claiming any club outside the prem is bigger than any in it is going to work very hard to persuade me
January 16, 20188 yr Strange town and odd folk But you have a walk around burnley bet you don’t see loads of United,city and Liverpool tops Very close knit in every sense
January 16, 20188 yr Fair enough that. Does depend upon how you choose to define it I suppose, but living on past glories can only last so long.
January 16, 20188 yr They have bigger crowds, so are bigger....they are also bigger then Monaco. Edited January 16, 20188 yr by Pablo
January 16, 20188 yr they are bigger than us currently in fact, they're massively bigger than us not for them looking down the back of the settee for some coppers anybody claiming any club outside the prem is bigger than any in it is going to work very hard to persuade me Does history, ground, support count for nothing then? Are Bournemouth bigger than Leeds? No they aren't
January 16, 20188 yr Strange town and odd folk But you have a walk around burnley bet you don’t see loads of United,city and Liverpool tops Very close knit in every sense Utd, city and Liverpool only have two arm holes though.
January 16, 20188 yr Does history, ground, support count for nothing then? Are Bournemouth bigger than Leeds? No they aren't suppose thats its why its a stupid debate theres more chance of leeds going bust before may
January 16, 20188 yr Burnley claim to be a passionate one club town, we spotted a few Chelsea shirts etc in and around town last game of the season, but the vast majority were clarets. Their training facilities dwarf ours, but the ground itself is a bit of dump... This period is crucial for their future- they have been steady, and well managed. As long as they cut their cloth accordingly, they will be the biggest Lancashire club for some time to come; the gulf between them and Blackburn is there to see... Is there a hard fast way to determine which club is 'biggest'? Fans, trophies, wealth, history all become transient eventually. To me, its their time to shine, but the cyclical nature of football shows nothing lasts forever...
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