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[miamiwhite]

13 minutes ago, Spider said:

100% of the businesses I give a fuck about do.

 

Yes, that's you petal unfortunately. I wonder how many more aren't ? 

[Spider]

4 minutes ago, miamiwhite said:

Yes, that's you petal unfortunately. I wonder how many more aren't ? 

Don’t care.

If Brexit has taught us nothing else, it’s that it’s every man for himself.

The whole idea is to go it alone after all.

Well, I’ve probably spent too long worrying about what’s best for the country when I should be worrying about me and those closest to me.

So actually, who gives a shit what happens to the sailors, fisherfolk, painters decorators and shelf stackers?

As long as I’m ok.

Juche forever!

Edited December 20, 2020 by Spider

[jmjhb]

43% of exports and 52% of imports

https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/cbp-7851/

Edited December 20, 2020 by jmjhb

[jmjhb]

1 minute ago, Spider said:

Don’t care.

If Brexit has taught us nothing else, it’s that it’s every man for himself.

The whole idea is to go it alone after all.

Well, I’ve probably spent too long worrying about what’s best for the country when I should be worrying about me and those closest to me.

So actually, who gives a shit what happens to the sailors, fisherfolk, painters decorators and shelf stackers?

As long as I’m ok.

Don't forget the roofers

[miamiwhite]

14 minutes ago, jmjhb said:

43% of exports and 52% of imports

https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/cbp-7851/

You missed the point fella, I was referring to number of businesses not the trade figures.

[Guest]

41 minutes ago, miamiwhite said:

Could you just remind me again please the percentage of how many UK businesses deal with the EU ?

I know there is hell of a lot of business involved in the tiny fraction, but the sums clearly illustrate a much larger proportion who don't. 

8%, I think

[miamiwhite]

14 minutes ago, jmjhb said:

Don't forget the roofers

I won't be affected, and roofers will always be in demand, thanks for your concern 😊 😘 

[miamiwhite]

Just now, boltondiver said:

8%, I think

Thank you kind sir. Which leaves 92% who don't.

Yet the EU want to do what with those 92% ?

[Farrelli]

1 minute ago, boltondiver said:

8%, I think

That is bullshit. Nearly every manufacturing company in the UK will have some EU suppliers or customers.

[Guest]

1 minute ago, miamiwhite said:

Thank you kind sir. Which leaves 92% who don't.

Yet the EU want to do what with those 92% ?

Tie them in bureaucratic loops?

[Spider]

1 minute ago, miamiwhite said:

Thank you kind sir. Which leaves 92% who don't.

Yet the EU want to do what with those 92% ?

So every single part of your business uses products and services sourced entirely in the UK????

as a starter for ten, what vehicle do you use?

[miamiwhite]

1 minute ago, Spider said:

So every single part of your business uses products and services sourced entirely in the UK????

as a starter for ten, what vehicle do you use?

You've missed my point too. It will unravel, don't worry.

[Spider]

1 minute ago, miamiwhite said:

You've missed my point too. It will unravel, don't worry.

I don’t think I have

You are suggesting only 8% of UK businesses deal with the EU, are you not?

[miamiwhite]

3 minutes ago, Spider said:

So every single part of your business uses products and services sourced entirely in the UK????

as a starter for ten, what vehicle do you use?

Oh, and as a reply for ten.

Our materials have already been secured well into next year. We forward think these things fella, unlike some.

[Spider]

Just now, miamiwhite said:

Oh, and as a reply for ten.

Our materials have already been secured well into next year. We forward think these things fella, unlike some.

Without sounding patronising, you haven’t the first clue how the metal market works.

Why would you?

[Guest]

5 minutes ago, Farrelli said:

That is bullshit. Nearly every manufacturing company in the UK will have some EU suppliers or customers.

It’s also possible to make an estimate only of these businesses involved in supply chains for businesses in the EU. This gives an estimate that 8% of UK SMEs export to the EU and a further 15% are in the supply chains of other businesses that export to the EU.

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/524847/bis-16-230-smes-supply-chains-exporters.pdf

 

I read it somewhere the other day, can't recall where

 

 

 

[miamiwhite]

1 minute ago, Spider said:

Without sounding patronising, you haven’t the first clue how the metal market works.

Why would you?

So then, we don't use metal in our job ? Without sounding patronising to you office clerks, what protects your chimney stacks ?

[miamiwhite]

2 minutes ago, boltondiver said:

It’s also possible to make an estimate only of these businesses involved in supply chains for businesses in the EU. This gives an estimate that 8% of UK SMEs export to the EU and a further 15% are in the supply chains of other businesses that export to the EU.

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/524847/bis-16-230-smes-supply-chains-exporters.pdf

 

I read it somewhere the other day, can't recall where

 

 

 

Yes, government figures. Sure I read somewhere too, that the UK benefits least too of all member states of integration re the single market. I need to check those figures again as it was from either 2018 or 2016.

[jmjhb]

5 minutes ago, Spider said:

I don’t think I have

You are suggesting only 8% of UK businesses deal with the EU, are you not?

Since that 8% counts for the 43/52% of imports/exports we can let a big chunk of the 92% die in that case

[Spider]

Just now, miamiwhite said:

So then, we don't use metal in our job ? Without sounding patronising to you office clerks, what protects your chimney stacks ?

You do 🙂

We import over £8million worth of metal each year. We know a thing or two about it and you’ll just have to take my word for it when I assure you that simply buying loads up front wasn’t an option.

To give you a comparison you might understand, if you order a million slates of a very particular type, that need mining and shaping or whatever, that order doesn’t automatically mean they’ll be made any quicker.

I can put you on to a guy in the Czech Republic who will back this up if it really makes you understand.

[miamiwhite]

6 minutes ago, boltondiver said:

It’s also possible to make an estimate only of these businesses involved in supply chains for businesses in the EU. This gives an estimate that 8% of UK SMEs export to the EU and a further 15% are in the supply chains of other businesses that export to the EU.

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/524847/bis-16-230-smes-supply-chains-exporters.pdf

 

I read it somewhere the other day, can't recall where

 

 

 

Figures are from ONS pal.

[Guest]

3 minutes ago, miamiwhite said:

Figures are from ONS pal.

Farrelli googling animatedly away................

[miamiwhite]

2 minutes ago, Spider said:

You do 🙂

We import over £8million worth of metal each year. We know a thing or two about it and you’ll just have to take my word for it when I assure you that simply buying loads up front wasn’t an option.

To give you a comparison you might understand, if you order a million slates of a very particular type, that need mining and shaping or whatever, that order doesn’t automatically mean they’ll be made any quicker.

I can put you on to a guy in the Czech Republic who will back this up if it really makes you understand.

I do ? Well, not just me.....many roofers use lead, copper, zinc, ali etc.

Surprising to you it may be, but many meetings were held with construction companies moons ago to ensure there wouldn't be a problem re supplies etc. Like the old saying goes "you need a roof over your head"

Start from the roof, then all you minions can start to conduct your life and business 😉 

Re business in metal, I presume you know 2 good mates of mine in the industry, one of whom specialises in the Czech Republic though his is a different field of metal, won't put his name on here.

As for slates chum, Welsh blues every time. British slates are world famous for being the optimum product.

[miamiwhite]

2 minutes ago, boltondiver said:

Farrelli googling animatedly away................

Yes, he will be thoroughly disappointed in a minute then go quiet once again.

[Farrelli]

Higher food costs will affect everyone. This is an extract from an article in Which? The government would be failing us all if they allowed these tariffs to happen.

Which? can reveal the tariffs set to be imposed on a range of popular groceries imported from the EU from next year if no deal is reached. These are the charges the government has set for imports from countries that it doesn’t have a trade deal with. This could include goods from the EU, which currently come into the UK tariff-free.

Read more: https://www.which.co.uk/news/2020/10/food-prices-could-rise-under-a-no-deal-brexit/ - Which?

Using the typical supermarket pack size for each of the items, we were able to calculate the tariff that would be charged per pack. Type of grocery UK global tariff Typical pack weight Duty per pack (Which? calculations)

Bacon - UK Global tariff £72 per 100kg, typical pack 300g, Duty per pack 22p,

Cheddar £139 per 100kg 400g, 56p,

Butter £158 per 100kg 250g, 40p, 

Long grain white rice £121 per 1,000kg 1kg, 12p, 

Fresh chicken £85 per 100kg 300g, 26p,

Yogurt (unflavoured and unsweetened) £17 per 100kg 450g, 8p .

Read more: https://www.which.co.uk/news/2020/10/food-prices-could-rise-under-a-no-deal-brexit/ - Which?