Politics

[miamiwhite]

6 minutes ago, Spider said:

I don't remember, so it didn't happen.

Well done on your forward ordering, I hope your suppliers are agreeable and have given you good payment terms.

One of the issues we have in the metal market is that a £16million "forward order" would have different implications, which I have discussed at length.

 

Sincerely hope you get yours sorted pal, but can't see it happening now thanks to the added bonus of the new COVID strain disrupting logistics etc. Couldn't have come at a worst time for so many people.

Could be a very grim winter ahead for everyone.

[Spider]

Just now, miamiwhite said:

Sincerely hope you get yours sorted pal, but can't see it happening now thanks to the added bonus of the new COVID strain disrupting logistics etc. Couldn't have come at a worst time for so many people.

Could be a very grim winter ahead for everyone.

Interestingly, the swiftness with which the EU and GB have dealt with the border issue this morning is a ray of hope moving forward.

It proves we can work together regardless of circumstances.

Covid can fuck right off now, but I suppose it’s shown that things can be sorted with a good amount of common sense

[Guest]

3 hours ago, Farrelli said:

The last fifteen polls have shown a majority in Scotland would like independence, and the last majority shows growth in this view (58 for/42 against). 

Nothing to do with your proposition. Not the first time.

[miamiwhite]

5 minutes ago, Spider said:

Interestingly, the swiftness with which the EU and GB have dealt with the border issue this morning is a ray of hope moving forward.

It proves we can work together regardless of circumstances.

Covid can fuck right off now, but I suppose it’s shown that things can be sorted with a good amount of common sense

Yes,  common sense needed. Will ring the Syrian Steel and ISIS Smugglers now, your order will be dropped at 14-15 on Jan 2nd 

[Spider]

Just now, miamiwhite said:

Yes,  common sense needed. Will ring the Syrian Steel and ISIS Smugglers now, your order will be dropped at 14-15 on Jan 2nd 

Good lad.

Pandemic, Brexit, whatever, I bet the poppy dust is getting through without a problem from our friends in the middle east

[Farrelli]

1 minute ago, boltondiver said:

Nothing to do with your proposition. Not the first time.

I haven't given any proposition, just saying that ultimately Scotland will go for independence which is their right and the natural progression.  I thought you appreciated these things, maybe not.

[Sweep]

29 minutes ago, Farrelli said:

If you have a machine requiring hundreds of potential parts/spares it would be impossible to cover every eventuality. Simpletons is about right.

rubbish, just order all the raw materials you might need for the next five years, it prevents any shortages. Don't let a little thing like cash flow or cost of ownership get in the way

[Guest]

1 minute ago, Farrelli said:

I haven't given any proposition, just saying that ultimately Scotland will go for independence which is their right and the natural progression.  I thought you appreciated these things, maybe not.

That isn’t what you said, though

At least understand what you said and be consistent!

Whether or not they become independent should be a matter for them and the rest of the UK

[miamiwhite]

2 minutes ago, Spider said:

Good lad.

Pandemic, Brexit, whatever, I bet the poppy dust is getting through without a problem from our friends in the middle east

Without doubt that will be getting through.

I've got 16 empty tins, 3 darts and a keyring you can recycle if that helps your place in the meantime 😃 

[Spider]

Just now, miamiwhite said:

Without doubt that will be getting through.

I've got 16 empty tins, 3 darts and a keyring you can recycle if that helps your place in the meantime 😃 

I just need you to turn it into a 28mm diameter, CatD tube withe a 3.3m3 surface area if you've time?

Need about 20 miles worth. It all helps. :-)

[miamiwhite]

Just now, Spider said:

I just need you to turn it into a 28mm diameter, CatD tube withe a 3.3m3 surface area if you've time?

Need about 20 miles worth. It all helps. 🙂

Piece of cake mate, why didn't you ask earlier ? Will drop it off in a hour.....Cash in hand though, no pissing about with a Czech cheque.

[Spider]

11 minutes ago, miamiwhite said:

Piece of cake mate, why didn't you ask earlier ? Will drop it off in a hour.....Cash in hand though, no pissing about with a Czech cheque.

Your gypsy-like settlement terms are fine by me.

I just need kit

[Casino]

22 minutes ago, boltondiver said:

That isn’t what you said, though

At least understand what you said and be consistent!

Whether or not they become independent should be a matter for them and the rest of the UK

why the rest of the UK?

[Farrelli]

37 minutes ago, boltondiver said:

That isn’t what you said, though

At least understand what you said and be consistent!

Whether or not they become independent should be a matter for them and the rest of the UK

Independence is the road they are on, that is what I said, all polls back this up.  Such a decision will be a matter for Scottish people, not the UK.

[Spider]

The UK without Scotland is unthinkable.

Seriously.

I'd happily give NI back to Dublin before watching the Scots go it alone.

May as well get rid of the Welsh at the same time if we're going down this route.

 

[miamiwhite]

18 minutes ago, Farrelli said:

Independence is the road they are on, that is what I said, all polls back this up.  Such a decision will be a matter for Scottish people, not the UK.

Polls of a 1,000 people, mostly carried out by SNP supporting sites. Hardly rocket science what they'll say is it ? We had this discussion in the summer too re them.

For the record, I've nothing against them going for it. What they need to do is work out how they're going to run their own country  and finance it. The oil isn't doing it for them at present. Huge questions being asked about these issues if you research it thoroughly 🙄 

[Escobarp]

27 minutes ago, Mr Grey said:

What satisfaction would this give to you and why are you so bothered 🤷‍♂️

Very sad individual that’s why 

[miamiwhite]

Good in depth report on it all

 

https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/oureconomy/snp-must-rethink-its-economic-model-independent-scotland/

[Escobarp]

Scotland’s biggest trading partner is the rest of the Uk. Almost 3 times more exports to uk than rest of the eu combined.  Of those us exports England makes up the majority 

 

would it be hypocritical to sever those ties by the Scottish government under the guise of it being in the best interests of Scotland to be an independent country?

[Tonge moor green jacket]

2 hours ago, Spider said:

Glad you ask.

I checked with the Czechs on this

Seems their uplift is in the 4-6% region.

Everyone had a pop at me (us) for not forward ordering - this is one of the situations that arise when demand is likely to peak because of a huge change in circumstances. Profiteering.

Raw materials have indeed gone up - we increase our prices on 1/1/21 by 7% as a result.

The other 13% is a very grey area.

For a good while there has been criticism of China for its illegal dumping of cheap steel on the market.

Presumably a rebalancing will be beneficial for others?

[Spider]

It's the same old thing. A person is smart; people are stupid.

Yes, they're a bit pissed off about Brexit, but that will pass in time.

As intrinsically linked as we were to the EU, our links to Scotland are simply too strong to break. It would be a disaster on both sides.

They're already independent enough anyway. We let them have their own football team, their own name.

And squabbling aside, Scotland is fucking brilliant, as are it's people.

They're every bit as British as the rest of us. Britain IS Scotland and vice versa.

[Tonge moor green jacket]

1 minute ago, Spider said:

 

They're every bit as British as the rest of us. Britain IS Scotland and vice versa.

Apart from the ones that don't want to be.

[Spider]

12 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

For a good while there has been criticism of China for its illegal dumping of cheap steel on the market.

Presumably a rebalancing will be beneficial for others?

Shit steel though. They flooded the market with mild steel and their stainless is plop.

As a British manufacturer we abide by Kite Mark (British) standards.

Which, in fairness, other British factories do too.

We have to use the Czech stuff. Be ace if there was a UK manufacturer of it (we looked into it), but it appears the demand in the UK isn't high enough.

[Tonge moor green jacket]

2 hours ago, Spider said:

Shit steel though. They flooded the market with mild steel and their stainless is plop.

As a British manufacturer we abide by Kite Mark (British) standards.

Which, in fairness, other British factories do too.

We have to use the Czech stuff. Be ace if there was a UK manufacturer of it (we looked into it), but it appears the demand in the UK isn't high enough.

Yes I know that from personal experience- fuckin Chinese hoe curled up like a Turkish slipper first use.

What's the particular grade of steel you use?

[miamiwhite]

59 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Yes I know that from personal experience- fuckin Chinese hoe curled up like a Turkish slipper first use.

What's the particular grade of steel you use?

We got some Chinese slates the other year, what an absolute load of dog turd they were. Farted and the fuckers broke. Used them twice in one day, yes, the first and last bleedin time.