Politics

[royal white]

5 minutes ago, gonzo said:

Is that not becasue they next door?

We cant send boats back through mainland Europe and 16 countries can we...

It doesn’t matter where you are the refugee convention prevents you from doing it. 

[little whitt]

4 hours ago, Spider said:

Can we not build a few HMO’s around those 40 new hospitals?

that should cover a lot of the NHS side of the problem.

 

yes cause they are all Doctors and Nurses 

on the Boats 

so why stop them

[gonzo]

2 minutes ago, royal white said:

It doesn’t matter where you are the refugee convention prevents you from doing it. 

So unless they are stopped at source we are pretty much fucked then.

Countries in Europe take shit loads, any surplus come to us and the countries they pass through to get here dont give a single fuck. 

We cant turn them back because France wont have it. We dont get a say because removed our own right.

We cant leave them floating in the water.

All we can do it accept them in, process them and send the bad ones back.

Sensationalist ideas like blanket bans simply wont happen. It cant happen.

The only way is we sort our shit out and get them processed and dealt with.

[London Wanderer]

18 minutes ago, royal white said:

The refugee convention prevents you from returning boats to a country where the occupants lives could be at risk, apparently according to you Italy and Greece can do that because they take more than us? 
 

When I told you what I thought the results of a break would be (safer routes, faster processing) you were still against it. 

Christ your holiday must be shitter than shit. 
 

 You told me they sent plenty back 🤔 now you’re confusing your own posts with mine 😂😂 

Can’t beat the next bit. “You didn’t agree with my idea therefore you’re against the safe & legal routes” . Brilliant 👏

 So you can’t find where I said that then. And you still don’t know how we go about leaving the refugee convention?

 Why do you keep saying I’m on holiday?

[London Wanderer]

32 minutes ago, Sweep said:

I guess this "taking a break" malarky will be in one of the manifestos of the upcoming GE, so will get a chance to vote on it. Let the public decide if its a good idea or not. 

The current government have already said they aren’t leaving the refugee convention. A petition for us leaving reached the grand total of 13,000. They had the courtesy of responding.

 Even the Tories know it’s a ridiculous idea. No way the other parties will try.

British Democrats might 👍

Edited August 13, 2023 by London Wanderer

[royal white]

13 minutes ago, London Wanderer said:

 You told me they sent plenty back 🤔 now you’re confusing your own posts with mine 😂😂 

Can’t beat the next bit. “You didn’t agree with my idea therefore you’re against the safe & legal routes” . Brilliant 👏

 So you can’t find where I said that then. And you still don’t know how we go about leaving the refugee convention?

 Why do you keep saying I’m on holiday?

Only one confused here is you. 
 

slowly again. 
 

Greece and Italy send plenty back. I asked how do they manage to do that if they’re part on the refugee convention. Best answer so far is @gonzo saying because they’re neighbouring countries closely followed by you saying it’s because they take more than us . Genius 🤤🤤

 

You posted a picture in the holiday group of your holiday the other day, how ridiculous of me to think you’re on holiday. 

Edited August 13, 2023 by royal white

[royal white]

12 minutes ago, gonzo said:

So unless they are stopped at source we are pretty much fucked then.

Countries in Europe take shit loads, any surplus come to us and the countries they pass through to get here dont give a single fuck. 

We cant turn them back because France wont have it. We dont get a say because removed our own right.

We cant leave them floating in the water.

All we can do it accept them in, process them and send the bad ones back.

Sensationalist ideas like blanket bans simply wont happen. It cant happen.

The only way is we sort our shit out and get them processed and dealt with.

Any idea what Labour mean by this? 
 

New agreement with France and other countries on returns and family reunion

Labour would negotiate a new agreement which includes safe returns and safe family reunions.  

[gonzo]

3 minutes ago, royal white said:

Any idea what Labour mean by this? 
 

New agreement with France and other countries on returns and family reunion

Labour would negotiate a new agreement which includes safe returns and safe family reunions.  

Sounds good, does that mean you'll vote for them now?

 

[royal white]

Just now, gonzo said:

Sounds good, does that mean you'll vote for them now?

 

You said France won’t have it. You’re probably best off having a word with the  shadow Home Secretary and tell her what you know 👍

[Cheese]

7 minutes ago, royal white said:

You posted a picture in the holiday group of your holiday the other day, how ridiculous of me to think you’re on holiday. 

What the fuck does that have to do with anything, and why the fuck would you bring it up? Weird behaviour, like when you bring up people's jobs/personal lives. Do you maintain a list of other posters' occupations, and what they're up to or something?

[royal white]

4 minutes ago, Cheese said:

What the fuck does that have to do with anything, and why the fuck would you bring it up? Weird behaviour, like when you bring up people's jobs/personal lives. Do you maintain a list of other posters' occupations, and what they're up to or something?

If I was on holiday I wouldn’t be spending my time on a football forum talking about asylum seekers. Each to their own like.
 

You seem a bit irate, are you ok Hun? 

[Cheese]

2 minutes ago, royal white said:

If I was on holiday I wouldn’t be spending my time on a football forum talking about asylum seekers. Each to their own like.
 

You seem a bit irate, are you ok Hun? 

Again, what does that have to do with anything being discussed? It's just a creepy attempt at a personal insult.

I'm absolutely peachy cheers babe.

[gonzo]

15 minutes ago, royal white said:

You said France won’t have it. You’re probably best off having a word with the  shadow Home Secretary and tell her what you know 👍

Maybe you should and tell them your blanket ban idea.

[royal white]

1 minute ago, Cheese said:

Again, what does that have to do with anything being discussed? It's just a creepy attempt at a personal insult.

I'm absolutely peachy cheers babe.

Questioning how someone’s holiday is now A personal insult 😂😂😂 🤡

 

[royal white]

3 minutes ago, gonzo said:

Maybe you should and tell them your blanket ban idea.

That’s just my idea, I’m not running for any party. Surely you letting Labour know their plans are ridiculous because of your knowledge of Francés would be better. 👍

[Cheese]

1 minute ago, royal white said:

Questioning how someone’s holiday is now A personal insult 😂😂😂 🤡

"a creepy attempt". I'm sure London Wanderer doesn't give a fuck, I'm just pointing out your weird behaviour.

[royal white]

2 minutes ago, Cheese said:

"a creepy attempt". I'm sure London Wanderer doesn't give a fuck, I'm just pointing out your weird behaviour.

You should be the last person on here to try and attempt calling people out for weird behaviour. 
 

Im sure LW is big enough to look after himself and doesn’t need some sad rape fantasist odd ball in his corner 😘

[gonzo]

2 minutes ago, royal white said:

That’s just my idea, I’m not running for any party. Surely you letting Labour know their plans are ridiculous because of your knowledge of Francés would be better. 👍

My idea is sharks infested water.

Its probably more likely to happen than your blanket ban and us getting cozy with France.

....that of course if it doesnt involve us giving France shit tons of more money and concessions. 

[Cheese]

3 minutes ago, royal white said:

You should be the last person on here to try and attempt calling people out for weird behaviour. 
 

Im sure LW is big enough to look after himself and doesn’t need some sad rape fantasist odd ball in his corner 😘

Resorting to lies now. The creepy fucker doesn't like being shown up 😁

[royal white]

Just now, Cheese said:

Resorting to lies now. The creepy fucker doesn't like being shown up 😁

Lies 😂😂 WW serial liar is trying to turn it on others. You’re a poorly soul. Seek help. X

[Cheese]

2 minutes ago, royal white said:

Lies 😂😂 WW serial liar is trying to turn it on others. You’re a poorly soul. Seek help. X

Think we all know who the "poorly soul" is here. 🤦‍♂️ I'm not the one constantly bringing up peoples private lives, keeping track of what they're up to, and lying about them. How far back does your dossier go?

I can probably dig out the post you're referring to if you want me to prove you're lying? 🤷‍♂️

[royal white]

1 minute ago, Cheese said:

Think we all know who the "poorly soul" is here. 🤦‍♂️ I'm not the one constantly bringing up peoples private lives, keeping track of what they're up to, and lying about them. How far back does your dossier go?

I can probably dig out the post you're referring to if you want me to prove you're lying? 🤷‍♂️

Constantly bringing up peoples private lives? Give us a couple of examples then cocker. 

[London Wanderer]

1 hour ago, royal white said:

Only one confused here is you. 
 

slowly again. 
 

Greece and Italy send plenty back. I asked how do they manage to do that if they’re part on the refugee convention. Best answer so far is @gonzo saying because they’re neighbouring countries closely followed by you saying it’s because they take more than us . Genius 🤤🤤

 

You posted a picture in the holiday group of your holiday the other day, how ridiculous of me to think you’re on holiday. 

Turning boats back isn't necessarily illegal - "Article 25 of the Convention does allow states to prevent passage in their territorial waters, including to prohibit crime, smuggling, or breaching immigration rules".  Slowly again please 😂

You've still not answered the question as to how we leave so we can have a temporary blanket ban? Remember your plan? That's what we were talking about. Not the Greeks, Aussies and Italians who haven't banned asylum claims like you suggest we do. 

You asked me if I was on holiday last time. I told you I was just visiting some family and working with a friend out west. It's a bit strange that you've brought it up again, but I guess you love your 'whataboutery' so it would make sense. Anything that detracts you from actually telling us how we bring about this ban. 

'what about the others who turn boats back? I know they've not banned anyone, but what about them? What about your holiday?  I can't believe you teach. You're a rape fantasist'! 🙈

You are struggling a bit to get your points across. 
 

Edited August 13, 2023 by London Wanderer

[London Wanderer]

58 minutes ago, Cheese said:

Resorting to lies now. The creepy fucker doesn't like being shown up 😁

I think it's safe to say that when you start calling posters rape fantasists that you really have lost the plot. 

I only asked him how we go about achieving this ban...

Bless. 

[royal white]

10 minutes ago, London Wanderer said:

Turning boats back isn't necessarily illegal - "Article 25 of the Convention does allow states to prevent passage in their territorial waters, including to prohibit crime, smuggling, or breaching immigration rules".  Slowly again please 😂

You've still not answered the question as to how we leave so we can have a temporary blanket ban? Remember your plan? That's what we were talking about. Not the Greeks, Aussies and Italians who haven't banned asylum claims like you suggest we do. 

You asked me if I was on holiday last time. I told you I was just visiting some family and working with a friend out west. It's a bit strange that you've brought it up again, but I guess you love your 'whataboutery' so it would make sense. Anything that detracts you from actually telling us how we bring about this ban. 

'what about the others who turn boats back? I know they've not banned anyone, but what about them? What about your holiday?  I can't believe you teach. You're a rape fantasist'! 🙈

You are struggling a bit to get your points across. 
 

No one is struggling. We’ve seen you’re whataboutery with the NHS which kind of backfired on you as that what I’m suggesting  we do here. 
 

Numerous times I’ve suggested it’s down to the politicians to discuss it, like Labour have said they will do (though @gonzo knows it will be pointless as France won’t be up for it so Labour need to readdress that) 

 

Sorry about the confusion with the holiday, next time we all go helping mates out we need to make sure to post some pictures in the holiday group as that makes perfect sense. 
 

I see you can’t answer the question why certain countries can break the refugee convention but we can’t? 
 

The core principle of the 1951 Convention is non-refoulement, which asserts that a refugee should not be returned to a country where they face serious threats to their life or freedom.