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[royal white]

22 minutes ago, London Wanderer said:

I think it's safe to say that when you start calling posters rape fantasists that you really have lost the plot. 

I only asked him how we go about achieving this ban...

Bless. 

We can tell you’re relatively new on here! Bless ya little cotton socks 

[London Wanderer]

7 minutes ago, royal white said:

No one is struggling. We’ve seen you’re whataboutery with the NHS which kind of backfired on you as that what I’m suggesting  we do here. 
 

Numerous times I’ve suggested it’s down to the politicians to discuss it, like Labour have said they will do (though @gonzo knows it will be pointless as France won’t be up for it so Labour need to readdress that) 

 

Sorry about the confusion with the holiday, next time we all go helping mates out we need to make sure to post some pictures in the holiday group as that makes perfect sense. 
 

I see you can’t answer the question why certain countries can break the refugee convention but we can’t? 
 

The core principle of the 1951 Convention is non-refoulement, which asserts that a refugee should not be returned to a country where they face serious threats to their life or freedom.

 

 

You're off on loads of tangents again 😁 Thanks for the apology though.

I'll make this dead simple. 

You said we should temporarily ban all asylum seekers. Labour haven't said they will discuss a ban on asylum seekers. Neither have any of the main parties. So how do you propose we implement this ban?  
 

Then I can answer your question x 

[royal white]

8 minutes ago, London Wanderer said:

You're off on loads of tangents again 😁 Thanks for the apology though.

I'll make this dead simple. 

You said we should temporarily ban all asylum seekers. Labour haven't said they will discuss a ban on asylum seekers. Neither have any of the main parties. So how do you propose we implement this ban?  
 

Then I can answer your question x 

 

I know, I’m not part of any party.  Let’s face it though the ideas what the parties have come up with so far aren’t working very well are they? You’ve been saying how shit the tories have been over all this, Gonzo has already spotted problem a in labours plans so that’s not a great start really is it.

 

Oh and my question  has nothing to do with how we implement a ban. 

Edited August 13, 2023 by royal white

[London Wanderer]

47 minutes ago, royal white said:

 

I know, I’m not part of any party.  Let’s face it though the ideas what the parties have come up with so far aren’t working very well are they? You’ve been saying how shit the tories have been over all this, Gonzo has already spotted problem a in labours plans so that’s not a great start really is it.

 

Oh and my question  has nothing to do with how we implement a ban. 

No shit 😂 strange that, because we were discussing your daft idea.

Yes the ideas the government have had aren't working very well. Did you really need to ask me that? 😆

None of that means we need to suddenly ban all asylum seekers for 18months.

Yes, yours was "why some countries could break the refugee convention". I've said I'll answer it when you tell me how we will implement this ban of yours? Still waiting ...
 

Edited August 13, 2023 by London Wanderer

[royal white]

12 minutes ago, London Wanderer said:

No shit 😂 strange that, because we were discussing your daft idea.

Yes the ideas the government have had aren't working very well. Did you really need to ask me that? 😆

None of that means we need to suddenly ban all asylum seekers for 18months.

Yes, yours was "why some countries could break the refugee convention". I've said I'll answer it when you tell me how we will implement this ban of yours? Still waiting ...
 

I’ve told you, it’s a job for the politicians  to discuss if they wanted to do it. I’ve zero experience at implementing asylum bans, nor have I been part of or had access to negotiations with other countries (though it appears Gonzo  has) 
 

Now surely you can answer my question? You made out the refugee conventions restricts what we can do, yet other countries seem to get away with it. We’ve already established that yours and Gonzo’s excuse was utter shite, so what’s the real reason? 

[Winchester White]

1 hour ago, royal white said:

We can tell you’re relatively new on here! Bless ya little cotton socks 

He is right though. As much as Cheese can argue (and you have somehow managed to relegate him into 2nd place on here) he has never admitted to any kind of rape fantasy. 

[royal white]

6 minutes ago, Winchester White said:

He is right though. As much as Cheese can argue (and you have somehow managed to relegate him into 2nd place on here) he has never admitted to any kind of rape fantasy. 

I’ve seen a few people post about it, someone somewhere is lying. Either way he’d still give Rudy a good run for his money on the lying front. Some accolade. 

[London Wanderer]

1 minute ago, royal white said:

I’ve seen a few people post about it

😂😂

 that’s it ? there’s your evidence.

Bless your cotton socks x

[royal white]

Just now, London Wanderer said:

😂😂

 that’s it ? there’s your evidence.

Bless your cotton socks x

Like I say you’re relatively new on here, it’s been spoke about quite a bit. First with cheese using different profile  names and numerous people questioning him about these fantasies. All very odd especially when he gets upset about people discussing others private lives when in reality they plaster their private lives on a footy forum with god knows how many members.

 

It’s like you getting all sensitive when I say flatdick. Best part of 20 years it’s been mentioned on here by lads and lasses, I’m pretty sure there’s a FD topic, yet as soon as I mention it you get all uptight. You need to stop being so sensitive. Have a chill and relax. No one is getting hurt bless ya x

[Cheese]

25 minutes ago, London Wanderer said:

😂😂

 that’s it ? there’s your evidence.

Bless your cotton socks x

About 15 years ago I posted that an ex-girlfriend of mine had confessed to having a weird rape fantasy. That's literally it. He's been shown the original context on several occasions, but he chooses to lie instead. 🤷‍♀️

Edited August 13, 2023 by Cheese

[London Wanderer]

20 minutes ago, royal white said:

I’ve told you, it’s a job for the politicians  to discuss if they wanted to do it. I’ve zero experience at implementing asylum bans, nor have I been part of or had access to negotiations with other countries (though it appears Gonzo  has) 
 

Now surely you can answer my question? You made out the refugee conventions restricts what we can do, yet other countries seem to get away with it. We’ve already established that yours and Gonzo’s excuse was utter shite, so what’s the real reason? 

None of the politicians are suggesting it. It's your idea. That's why I've been asking you. Why would they discuss something none of them think is possible or worth the effort?

No fckin shit you've got no experience. I think we all saw that when you suggested a ban in the first place. At least you've now admitted you don't know what your talking about. Bit strange to suggest an idea for something you don't have a clue about? 😂😂

I'm a bit confused because now your asking different questions to your original one? What was I making excuses for? The refugee convention restricts what every country can do. Here's the law on turning boats back. Turning back migrant boats: what does the international law of the sea say? | Bangor University
Bear with me, it's written by a flatdick and she was a lawyer, so you might struggle. 

"There could also be breaches of refugee law depending on the circumstances, such as the principle of non-refoulement, which prevents states from forcing asylum seekers and refugees back to a place where they may face persecution.
As the Strait of Dover is the busiest shipping route in the world, pushbacks could be extremely dangerous. Reports suggest that the UK’s turnback policy is only applicable to “sturdier, bigger migrant boats” and in “very limited circumstances”. 

This is why I previously said it was unlikely to hold up in court 🙂

[London Wanderer]

1 minute ago, Cheese said:

About 15 years ago I posted that an ex-girlfriend of mine had confessed to having a weird rape fantasy. That's literally it.

😂

That was some 'whataboutery' effort by bringing up some bollocks story from 15 years ago. Got to hand it to the lad, he's surpassed himself. Might have been easier to just admit he was in a pickle with his plan in the first place.

I'm off to cry myself to sleep because someone used 'flatdick' on a footy forum. Night. 

[royal white]

2 minutes ago, London Wanderer said:

None of the politicians are suggesting it. It's your idea. That's why I've been asking you. Why would they discuss something none of them think is possible or worth the effort?

 

if they wanted to do it 

No fckin shit you've got no experience. I think we all saw that when you suggested a ban in the first place. At least you've now admitted you don't know what your talking about. Bit strange to suggest an idea for something you don't have a clue about? 😂😂

yes and your ideas which mirror the policticians are going brilliantly, ideas that already aren’t working yet you keep suggesting them. Amazing 

I'm a bit confused because now your asking different questions to your original one? What was I making excuses for? The refugee convention restricts what every country can do. Here's the law on turning boats back. Turning back migrant boats: what does the international law of the sea say? | Bangor University
Bear with me, it's written by a flatdick and she was a lawyer, so you might struggle. 

"There could also be breaches of refugee law depending on the circumstances, such as the principle of non-refoulement, which prevents states from forcing asylum seekers and refugees back to a place where they may face persecution.
As the Strait of Dover is the busiest shipping route in the world, pushbacks could be extremely dangerous. Reports suggest that the UK’s turnback policy is only applicable to “sturdier, bigger migrant boats” and in “very limited circumstances”. 

This is why I previously said it was unlikely to hold up in court

No that was my question all along and you’ve finally managed to answer. Wrong! Greece and Italy are sending them back. How? explain this because they’re under the same rules and don’t border the Strait of Dover. Also the Strait of Dover isn’t the only route taken and bigger boats have been used for years. Keep trying . 👍

 🙂

 

[royal white]

12 minutes ago, Cheese said:

About 15 years ago I posted that an ex-girlfriend of mine had confessed to having a weird rape fantasy. That's literally it.

It’s funny reading it back. Slagging women off, all defensive of your ex bird, getting all of a do because people were ripping you about your private life which you plastered all over here. You really don’t help yourself do you? 😂Don’t ever change 

[Cheese]

4 minutes ago, royal white said:

It’s funny reading it back. Slagging women off, all defensive of your ex bird, getting all of a do because people were ripping you about your private life which you plastered all over here. You really don’t help yourself do you? 😂Don’t ever change 

Deary me. Talk about obsessed 😂 Thought you said you didn't know where that came from? You just can't help lying about people when you're being made to look a fool eh? 🤦‍♂️

Edited August 13, 2023 by Cheese

[royal white]

Just now, Cheese said:

Deary me. Talk about obsessed 😂 Thought you said you didn't know where that trope came from? You just can't help lying about people when you're being made to look a fool eh? 🤦‍♂️

You know the search button which catches you and your lies out on a regular basis. I used that. It’s easy to use you can use it to tell me about all the times I’ve brought up people’s private lives. 

[Cheese]

1 minute ago, royal white said:

You know the search button which catches you and your lies out on a regular basis. I used that. It’s easy to use you can use it to tell me about all the times I’ve brought up people’s private lives. 

So you've used it to confirm you were lying 😂

You've repeatedly mentioned LW's holiday in this thread when you've been on the back foot, and also denounced his ability to carry out his occupation.... It seems to be your default defence when someone points out the shite you post. You resort to personal attacks, even if you know full well they're lies. Pathetic. Remember when you and Miami did a bit of roleplay and tried to invent a story about me "mugging pensioners"? 😂

[London Wanderer]

6 minutes ago, royal white said:

 

You’d have to read the specific cases that were taken to court for Greece & Italy. There you can find all you need to know for why they were found to be acting in accordance with international law, or in some cases not. It all boils down to circumstances & location👍

 It all links back to the article I sent you, happy reading.

I also see it’s in the news this eve that the home office did know about the bacteria on board the day people arrived. Then they let more arrive…. Fck me you’ve been having a bit of a mare of late haven’t you pal 😂😂 Maybe you & your flatdick need a holiday??

Don’t worry though, I’ll not be starting any new debates. We can leave it here and you can defend the home office to other posters by asking them unrelated questions x

[royal white]

1 minute ago, Cheese said:

So you've used it to confirm you were lying 😂

You've repeatedly mentioned LW's holiday in this thread when you've been on the back foot, and also denounced his ability to carry out his occupation.... It seems to be your default defence when someone points out the shite you post. You resort to personal attacks, even if you know full well they're lies. Pathetic. Remember when you and Miami did a bit of roleplay and tried to invent a story about me "mugging pensioners"? 😂

It really is quite the thread isn’t it. You telling all on here about this 17 year old girl you really liked and literally in the next post telling everyone about her rape fantasies….wow….. Then telling everyone she knows nothing about what you post on here. I take it you left the WW page open on the shared computer. 
 

And now you have the brass neck to complain when people’s private lives get brought up. Deary me 

 

Back to the personal attacks (funnily enough there’s plenty from you on some of those threads) saying a holiday looks shit is a personal insult? Really? 😂😂 

[royal white]

8 minutes ago, London Wanderer said:

You’d have to read the specific cases that were taken to court for Greece & Italy. There you can find all you need to know for why they were found to be acting in accordance with international law, or in some cases not. It all boils down to circumstances & location👍

 It all links back to the article I sent you, happy reading.

I also see it’s in the news this eve that the home office did know about the bacteria on board the day people arrived. Then they let more arrive…. Fck me you’ve been having a bit of a mare of late haven’t you pal 😂😂 Maybe you & your flatdick need a holiday??

Don’t worry though, I’ll not be starting any new debates. We can leave it here and you can defend the home office to other posters by asking them unrelated questions x

Holiday booked. NYC, I might post a picture but obviously from my mates when I’m doing some Graft there. 
 

Apparently so via a verbal message 

The local authority added that it 'verbally' told a Home Office official about the discovery last Tuesday. 
 

Surely an official e mail would have been a bit better with some corresponding documentation, I’m sure you would agree on that? 
 

Anyway 4 more bodies are sadly floating in the channel tonight. Even legionaries disease isn’t putting them off. How bad must France be hey 🤷🏻‍♂️

 

[London Wanderer]

13 minutes ago, royal white said:

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Apparently so via a verbal message 

The local authority added that it 'verbally' told a Home Office official about the discovery last Tuesday. 
 

Surely an official e mail would have been a bit better with some corresponding documentation, I’m sure you would agree on that? 
 

 

No. If people’s lives were in danger I wouldn’t send a fckn email to the home office and wait days for a response. 
 

I’d contact the senior official straight away to tell them verbally! Like any normal person would do. What planet are you on 😂 Please don't email A&E when a loved one is having a heart attack. 

 

Edited August 13, 2023 by London Wanderer

[royal white]

2 minutes ago, London Wanderer said:

Couldn’t resist this one 😂

No. If people’s lives were in danger I wouldn’t send a fckn email to the home office and wait days for a response. 
 

I’d contact the senior official straight away to tell them verbally! Like any normal person would do. What planet are you on 😂

 

So someone from the local authority, the same authority that has been trying their best to prevent the barge from happening, just gets on the blower to a senior official and says there’s legionnaires on board 😂😂 no proof, no documentation, nothing. I do sometimes wonder what kind of fantasy land you live in. 
 

It’s also down to the barge contractors to inform the HO, not Dave from the local authority.

[London Wanderer]

ahhhhhhhh

so the tests are lying 🤣

See ya x 

[royal white]

2 minutes ago, London Wanderer said:

ahhhhhhhh

so the tests are lying 🤣

See ya x 

I didn’t mention tests. You’re going on  one of your mad uns again. 
 

Thanks for helping me get through a bit of work, I hope your mate who you’re supposed to be helping isn’t to pissed off with you 👍

[London Wanderer]

4 minutes ago, royal white said:

I didn’t mention tests. You’re going on  one of your mad uns again. 
 

Thanks for helping me get through a bit of work, I hope your mate who you’re supposed to be helping isn’t to pissed off with you 👍

💕