Casino Posted March 10, 2019 Posted March 10, 2019 Anti basran, or stating that it looks like basran doesn't seem to have the money
Flannel Truscott Posted March 10, 2019 Posted March 10, 2019 38 minutes ago, Howardroark said: He’s fronting under the guise of his £100M fund so technically funds are there, on paper.... 35 minutes ago, Howardroark said: Not to discredit; to simply make clear the semantics of their statements thus far. No claim it is VGC buying, just that Basran is the founding partner.... However the semantics of newspaper print blur the lines and that’s not acceptable. And now you're contradicting yourself.
Howardroark Posted March 10, 2019 Posted March 10, 2019 2 minutes ago, Flannel Truscott said: And now you're contradicting yourself. No contradiction there, he’s fronting under the guise of VGC, it’s your assumption that my intention is to discredit.
Howardroark Posted March 10, 2019 Posted March 10, 2019 I’m as close as everybody else, I just know there cannot be an exclusivity clause, firstly due to the financial situation (if insolvent it’s the responsibility of the directors to look at all bids) and secondly because Ken has publicly gone on record to say he was talking to other bidders. Nixon insists there is exclusivity and that’s simply incorrect.
Howardroark Posted March 10, 2019 Posted March 10, 2019 28 minutes ago, Ratwhite said: Hi Mate, you seem pretty clued up on all this and (in my view) quite anti-Basran (or the Basran bid). Would you prefer they didn’t get it? Or tha A N Other got it? I’d rather somebody got it who could improve the situation.
Flannel Truscott Posted March 10, 2019 Posted March 10, 2019 14 minutes ago, Howardroark said: No contradiction there, he’s fronting under the guise of VGC, it’s your assumption that my intention is to discredit. Is he though? I've not seen anything suggesting this, can you please share?
Howardroark Posted March 10, 2019 Posted March 10, 2019 4 minutes ago, Flannel Truscott said: Is he though? I've not seen anything suggesting this, can you please share? Read the press reports from December about the agreed deal. That’s an approved release from both parties. Then refer to the defined investment strategy of VGC along with the backgrounds of their main investors (available on pitch book.com). Basran would be an odd front man given he has no track record of success anywhere. The return on fund value isn’t declared and ‘6 years in FMCG’ could be at Tesco.
Flannel Truscott Posted March 10, 2019 Posted March 10, 2019 5 minutes ago, Howardroark said: Read the press reports from December about the agreed deal. That’s an approved release from both parties. Then refer to the defined investment strategy of VGC along with the backgrounds of their main investors (available on pitch book.com). Basran would be an odd front man given he has no track record of success anywhere. The return on fund value isn’t declared and ‘6 years in FMCG’ could be at Tesco. So, again, can you share the release and prove that it's approved by both parties? The rest of this post is smoke and mirrors.
Howardroark Posted March 10, 2019 Posted March 10, 2019 1 minute ago, Flannel Truscott said: So, again, can you share the release and prove that it's approved by both parties? The rest of this post is smoke and mirrors. Well you could check Parminder’s Twitter, he re-tweeted it, I assume that’s acceptable. Smoke and mirrors would require me to have something to obscure, I do not.
TroySwoosh Posted March 10, 2019 Posted March 10, 2019 If you take the name Howardroark and change a few of the letters you get Peterkenyon (or maximus)
Flannel Truscott Posted March 10, 2019 Posted March 10, 2019 20 minutes ago, Howardroark said: Well you could check Parminder’s Twitter, he re-tweeted it, I assume that’s acceptable. Smoke and mirrors would require me to have something to obscure, I do not. First you say he is fronting. Then you say there's nothing to say he is. But you say that isn't contradictory. Then you say there's a joint statement. Then you don't produce it. You've shown a fundamental lack of understanding of venture capital yet you are apparently trying to inform people on here.
Boothy Posted March 10, 2019 Posted March 10, 2019 Also say the press know nothing yet cite a press reports from December. Whilst interesting take on things I think that’s all this is and some people seem to be lapping it up.
Burnden Pies Posted March 10, 2019 Posted March 10, 2019 Feeling a little inadequate as I know absolutely nothing about this takeover or even if it will happen. I must have a zero network of people who are ITK.
Tonge moor green jacket Posted March 10, 2019 Posted March 10, 2019 8 minutes ago, Burnden Pies said: Feeling a little inadequate as I know absolutely nothing about this takeover or even if it will happen. I must have a zero network of people who are ITK. Well that's two of us at least!
tkonion Posted March 10, 2019 Posted March 10, 2019 If there is a takeover does anybody know if there will still be anything in place to prevent the football club being wound-up and the assets such as the stadium, hotel, training ground, car parks (if any are still owned by the club) being sold off?
RONNIE PHILLIPS Posted March 10, 2019 Posted March 10, 2019 3 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: Well that's two of us at least! 3 😊
RONNIE PHILLIPS Posted March 10, 2019 Posted March 10, 2019 Might ask the wife though, she seems to know everything else!
Ani Posted March 10, 2019 Posted March 10, 2019 23 minutes ago, Burnden Pies said: Feeling a little inadequate as I know absolutely nothing about this takeover or even if it will happen. I must have a zero network of people who are ITK. It is not stopping anyone else having an opinion.
Mounts Kipper Posted March 10, 2019 Posted March 10, 2019 2 minutes ago, Ani said: It is not stopping anyone else having an opinion. Nor should it, that’s what a football forums all about. Long may it continue.
Breightmet Boy Posted March 10, 2019 Posted March 10, 2019 Cant bloody wait till this thread disappears down the page, im glued to it yet pissed off with it.
Ratwhite Posted March 10, 2019 Posted March 10, 2019 1 hour ago, Howardroark said: I’d rather somebody got it who could improve the situation. Kenyons lot??
Ratwhite Posted March 10, 2019 Posted March 10, 2019 2 hours ago, Casino said: Anti basran, or stating that it looks like basran doesn't seem to have the money I’d go Pro-Kenyon in the words of Buster Blood Vessel - just a feeling....
Sluffy Posted March 10, 2019 Posted March 10, 2019 If Basran does end up buying the club I do hope he takes more care than to have a public twitter conversation with a parody twitter account and discuss the take over or to 'follow' the Lion of Vienna, then those two kids in Argentina who follow Bolton, as his first two prime sources of presumably twitter 'influencers' about the club - even before Iles! (his next Bolton follow was the long defunct BWFC forum of Mike Smith, the ST founder). I'm assuming it really is Basran's personal twitter account, if so he really does have a very eclectic list of people he's following (including, and since he made his Bolton interest known, Roy Evans the former Liverpool manager (is he one of the Cheshire set?). No law against who you follow on twitter though. As for Howard, who knows if he's genuine or not? The chances are always going to be on social media (or down the pub), that the random person you chat to isn't really on the inside of what is happening but there's plenty of people who do somehow know of bits and pieces genuine information and can put together a form of narrative that is interesting and plausible. In fact that is what I try to do on here. Fair play to Howard for giving us his take on things, he clearly has some knowledge on things that many of us, including myself, don't and it's then left up to the rest of us how much we want to accept of that, or for those more knowledgeable about things to question him on. He's helped me at least to pass away the last couple of days awaiting the next chapter in Mr Anderson's ownership of the club, and the one thing I'm looking forward to in seeing is his clear contradiction of Iles and Nixon's assertion and confidence in that the take over will happen today. My money is on Howard being correct on this at least.
Ratwhite Posted March 10, 2019 Posted March 10, 2019 1 hour ago, TroySwoosh said: If you take the name Howardroark and change a few of the letters you get Peterkenyon (or maximus) Is exactly my take
Chris Custodiet Posted March 10, 2019 Posted March 10, 2019 Anyone noticed that today is the third anniversary of the appointment of Dean Holdsworth and Ken Anderson as directors of BWFC and of Dean Holdsworth signing over the deeds to the Reebok as security for Blumarble's loan to Holdsworth's SSBWFC. It took quite a long time and quite a few bob to get over that hindrance but there would have been no realistic prospect of new ownership until it was..
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