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sub-2 hour marathon

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It's all bollox this. What next? Someone doing the same on a treadmill in Virgin Active 🤔

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  • It was Celine Dion on his headphones that did it

  • I was watching it on +1

  • I did watch it on BBC Red Button, apart from nipping to Waitrose and then having a shave and bath once I got back, but I left the TV on throughout. It is not, and never will be, accepted as a rec

He probably needs to race Bekele at Berlin, given he just went within 2 secs of Kipchoge's official WR.

I was glued to the TV watching this, despite the naysayers a wonderful achievement.

A bloke just ran 26 miles in under 2 hours and people are having a pop???

Fucking Nora.

 

3 hours ago, Rudy’s Message said:

Completing them isn’t that hard if you train right, completing them at pace is something else.

Id do the iron man but I’m not a strong swimmer and you need your head testing really to do it 

It was the cycle course this year that did it for most. Absolute cunt of a route.

My cousin got timed out as did around 1/3 of the field including some seasoned entrants who reckoned the course was overly hard

22 minutes ago, Spider said:

A bloke just ran 26 miles in under 2 hours and people are having a pop???

Fucking Nora.

 

Theres always some have to find fault

Take it for what it is

I dont care if he had jets in the back of his shoes, its fcuking remarkable

6 hours ago, Casino said:

A questions for malc

A few years back, the term world record wasnt used for marathons

Best time was described as world best

I presume because of course variations

Did something change?

Yes. The IAAF has only recently ratified records for road races. There are rules regarding course measurement, separation distance between start and finish points, and elevation drop between same. As long as these are all met (along with the normal rules for racing) then they can be ratified, with the accompanying benefits.

3 hours ago, ErnestTurnip said:

Kipchoge's 1/2 marathon PB was done at 2:49 per km in 2012, and 7 years later he's done a marathon at 2:50 per km.

They have some good hidden training setups out of the way in the hills of Kenya, look how much Farah benefitted from no-one being able to check what he was up to.

Don't need doping to explain this one. His effort was a 2:03 marathon in terms of physical input, with the rest made up by Nike's spring sole shoes

I wonder what he could do a marathon in if it was all down hill, 1:55? 

Youd need to find a suitable mountain range like, the Oxygen levels up high might take a bit out of him 

38 minutes ago, Casino said:

Take it for what it is

What is it though? 

We going to stick people behind a derny and claim that's ok as well?

Claiming 4% on shoes (which is still contentious)  is missing the point if he's doped to get to 2:03 though?

Could he not just be a really really good fucking runner?

Just a thought.

4 minutes ago, Spider said:

Could he not just be a really really good fucking runner?

Just a thought.

Yes.

Doesn't have to be black or white though.

Fine effort in its own right.

Just doesn't seem quite as special as doing it in a race. 

Doesn't mean folk are knocking him.

He's 100% a really good runner regardless of anything else, probably the best marathon runner ever. 

He's competed in 12 race marathons, won 11 and was 2nd in the other. I know of no other athlete with such an impressive marathon record. 

9 minutes ago, Spider said:

Could he not just be a really really good fucking runner?

Just a thought.

He has had an outstanding career over 18 years (he is 35 next month).

Olympic medals - gold, silver and bronze.

World Track - gold and silver.

World Cross-Country - gold.

World Indoor - bronze.

Eight Major city Marathon wins (London 4, Berlin 3, Chicago 1).

4 minutes ago, jayjayoghani said:

He's competed in 12 race marathons, won 11 and was 2nd in the other. I know of no other athlete with such an impressive marathon record. 

Abebe Bikila.

Won 12 of his first 13 Marathons, including Olympics in 1960 and 1964 (the latter a few weeks after having appendix removed). His only defeat was Boston 1963, where he was on record schedule for 75% of the race before succumbing to icy winds and finishing fifth.

He'll have more drugs than a chemist 

Fair play though 

Why didn't he run it downhill with a tail wind behind him? He would have done it even quicker. Contrived world records like the one we are talking about don't impress me, sorry.

1 hour ago, ErnestTurnip said:

What is it though? 

We going to stick people behind a derny and claim that's ok as well?

 

Why not

He would be running the time

It'll never happen

1 hour ago, MalcolmW said:

Abebe Bikila.

Won 12 of his first 13 Marathons, including Olympics in 1960 and 1964 (the latter a few weeks after having appendix removed). His only defeat was Boston 1963, where he was on record schedule for 75% of the race before succumbing to icy winds and finishing fifth.

And Malc opens his legs, and shows his class. 

The pacing thing. Pretty much every track  world record from 800m to 10000m is paced to the nth degree. The only WR I can think of that wasn't paced was Rudisha in 2012. 

24 minutes ago, jayjayoghani said:

The pacing thing. Pretty much every track  world record from 800m to 10000m is paced to the nth degree.

Not by a car and a squad of 41 pacemakers.

33 minutes ago, Traf said:

Not by a car and a squad of 41 pacemakers.

It's a marathon so they'll need more. But yes 41 was over the top. I can only think they used so many for commercial reasons. 

Minimum they'd need would be a set for two half marathons as plenty can run one hour half marathons. If they were using 7 at one time, makes 14. 

8 hours ago, jayjayoghani said:

It's a marathon so they'll need more. But yes 41 was over the top. I can only think they used so many for commercial reasons. 

Minimum they'd need would be a set for two half marathons as plenty can run one hour half marathons. If they were using 7 at one time, makes 14. 

Of course it was for commercial reasons. All the 42 pacemakers were Nike sponsored athletes wearing Nike vests with Ineos printed on the front as well as the swoosh.

Some of the teams only covered short stages of 2 or 3 kilometres, others did 8k. So it was easy to keep up with a laser beam at the required pace.

I don't think 'plenty' describes the number of athletes in shape to run that pace at this time of year in Vienna, the more so if you restrict it to Nike sponsored ones. The event was held on the first planned day, but it would have been delayed for up to 8 days if better conditions seemed likely.

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