Fleetwood Town "academy". Whats the craic? 

1 minute ago, radcliffewhite1 said:

Does anybody know how much the insurance costs for a kids team? Our coach makes out it’s mega expensive just can’t see it 

I believe, like most organised leagues, you buy the insurance as part of the league fees and that leaves it open to high fees as most teams just pay up and ask no questions. 
Thing is, how often is a Jumbo Jet going to crash onto a football pitch and thus result in a massive claim which, in all probability, would be covered by the plane owner’s liability insurance.

As an aside, I was once involved in a league (rounders) where some time ago, they decided to create an accident fund separately from the insurance policy. It’s a closed shop so every team (about 130 teams) has to put in annually. To make a claim a player has to have been injured on the pitch or travelling to or from a game and has to have lost earnings as a result of their injury. The league has no age limits so quite often, a 7 year old could be playing alongside a 70 year old. Problem is, if you aren’t a wage earner you can’t claim for loss of earnings so other than loss of limbs, eye sight etc., there’s nothing you can claim. The pot currently stands at over £50k so with a maximum claim of £1500 that’s going to be a calamity of biblical proportions to empty the pot. 
I once suggested we ring fence at, say, £25k and use the remainder for buying equipment for schools in order to create a new bunch of players at primary age. Fucking hell, I might as well have booted the entire top table of the committee in their cunts for the shouting and bawling down they gave me.   

I sometimes wonder why folk get involved in kids footy.

From what I have seen, they aren’t too keen on improving clubs.

They just want to “Tick over” and are not willing to put in the effort that is required. 

1 hour ago, MickyD said:

I believe, like most organised leagues, you buy the insurance as part of the league fees and that leaves it open to high fees as most teams just pay up and ask no questions. 
Thing is, how often is a Jumbo Jet going to crash onto a football pitch and thus result in a massive claim which, in all probability, would be covered by the plane owner’s liability insurance.

As an aside, I was once involved in a league (rounders) where some time ago, they decided to create an accident fund separately from the insurance policy. It’s a closed shop so every team (about 130 teams) has to put in annually. To make a claim a player has to have been injured on the pitch or travelling to or from a game and has to have lost earnings as a result of their injury. The league has no age limits so quite often, a 7 year old could be playing alongside a 70 year old. Problem is, if you aren’t a wage earner you can’t claim for loss of earnings so other than loss of limbs, eye sight etc., there’s nothing you can claim. The pot currently stands at over £50k so with a maximum claim of £1500 that’s going to be a calamity of biblical proportions to empty the pot. 
I once suggested we ring fence at, say, £25k and use the remainder for buying equipment for schools in order to create a new bunch of players at primary age. Fucking hell, I might as well have booted the entire top table of the committee in their cunts for the shouting and bawling down they gave me.   

Well I thought that about paying with league fees but apparently not at ours and with all the discontent with hardly playing games and subs due etc all we get is that insurance premiums cripple him

11 hours ago, Horwich said:

Kids playing football is just a money earner for clubs. Most of them are shat. If the parents want to pay for them to do sommat, then fair enough. Its just a baby sitting service really. Once they reach 18, they will discover women and beer.

Plus, most of the clubs are shit aswell.

 

It means a lot more to the kids than simply playing football.

They learn so many life skills being part of a team going out every week trying their best for themselves and eachother.

Its more than just a game. 

37 minutes ago, gonzo said:

 

Its more than just a game. 

this

 

i coached grass roots to help out; my ladcouldnt play, but they needed someone. none of the parents were prepared to step up, which was disappointing. i took that team to two promotions in three seasons, and handed them over when another coach came free.

 

in that time, i hoped i taught them to respect officials, opponent and themselves. i asked them to work hard, persevere, and not to just accept defeat. i gave them responsibilities, confidence, and belief in themselves. i brought the quiet kids out of their shells and developed theless able, including them where they would normally pushed out.

 

a grass roots coach is a selfless volunteer: i got more rewards from that than any paid coaching i've ever done

All that is all well and good. Kids football should put players of similar ability playing together.

Problem is that if you put young jonny in the “3rd team” mummy and daddy kick off and complain about mental health.

Its about growing up.

2 hours ago, Horwich said:

I sometimes wonder why folk get involved in kids footy.

From what I have seen, they aren’t too keen on improving clubs.

They just want to “Tick over” and are not willing to put in the effort that is required. 

What is it you think they should aspire to?

What's wrong with a club just 'ticking over' as long it's doing what it's supposed to be doing, and that's being a well organised club at gives kids the opportunity to play football.

Regarding your comment on parents moaning about their kids not being picked. That's a parenting issue, not a club issue and one that happens in all sports, not just football.

On 13/12/2020 at 09:40, MickyD said:

No disagreement here. I often used to wonder where all their subs were spent. Mostly league fees but then where is THAT spent? Local FAs > National FA > UEFA > FIFA? So did my kid’s money help make Blatter rich?

My daughter’s original coach pretty much ran a girls football team as a full-time job. He was (and still is) doing ok at it but coaching kids used to be done by someone with a genuine interest in junior football, not someone who saw an opportunity to make a wage from it. I wouldn’t mind, he had a large volunteer coaching staff as well!

my daughter plays for a team where I’m currently wondering where the money goes, possibly  the same one , not just the subs but fund raising , especially when we also get links to the club shop where we can buy training gear and hats etc for them . 
my lads all play for different clubs where money is re invested or even just sits in the bank, all visible, something doesn’t sit right with the daughters team though. Saying that, I pay subs the same and she thoroughly enjoys herself so no issue, but it grates me a little the efforts of volunteers and parents could be subsiding an individuals income rather than a genuine grass roots club .

Looking forward to this weekend. 2 lads today, one at 9am one at 11.30 so I can get them both in. And the daughter tomorrow. With the rain holding off there should be no cancellations. Seems ages ago since they all last played! 

2 games this weekend but no spectators 

Better than nothing 

Preston at home, last one before they break up. 

Since they returned, they have only lost to Man City and Liverpool: considering they have a squad of 9 they have done really well

Youngest grandson plays today 12-30 ko can’t wait

4 hours ago, Dr Faustus said:

Preston at home, last one before they break up. 

Since they returned, they have only lost to Man City and Liverpool: considering they have a squad of 9 they have done really well

Won 7-3, another penalty saved. 

 

Michael Brown's kid played, seems a good un

6 hours ago, radcliffewhite1 said:

2 games this weekend but no spectators 

Better than nothing 

Absolutely no justification to have adults there

Though moss Bank seemed to be cracking on at 1030

1 minute ago, Casino said:

Absolutely no justification to have adults there

Though moss Bank seemed to be cracking on at 1030

No I agree when it’s a sports complex or school, but say close park like next week il be there 

Coming to something when the highlights have been watching  that little white circle as it buffers.

1 hour ago, Casino said:

Absolutely no justification to have adults there

Though moss Bank seemed to be cracking on at 1030

I’m saying this having been through the family mill, but if you’re social distancing, outside, sanitising, lots wearing masks, then this is far more safe than socialising with your extended family at Christmas?

Edited December 19, 20205 yr by desperado

2 wongs dont make chop suey

1 minute ago, Casino said:

2 wongs dont make chop suey

Not sure I understand that, but because we’ve both undoubtedly been on the sauce watching our beloved team, I’ll forgive you 😂 

Two wrongs dont make a right 

just had my first mouthful, actually

Like I said sports complexes/schools can enforce your local park can’t 

We have a situation where it’s one parent per player , fair enough and its adhered to, but one plays on a public park, my kids grandads or mum can’t come watching with me but every man and his dog stop for a gander walking past.

Still, better that and getting a game 

3 hours ago, fatolive said:

We have a situation where it’s one parent per player , fair enough and its adhered to, but one plays on a public park, my kids grandads or mum can’t come watching with me but every man and his dog stop for a gander walking past.

Still, better that and getting a game 

So borrow a dog and just tell them all not to let on and don’t have your ladshouting, “Hiya, grandad!”

Wont play agian this season. Null n voids all over.

1 hour ago, Pablo said:

Wont play agian this season. Null n voids all over.

What a disappointment for all the kids.

And all of the efforts from the parents. Sad times.