In a legal, institutional, and unconscious sense, the UK is still a Christian country

But actual Christian religious belief is very low among the population

1 minute ago, Casino said:

You dont need to know anything

When is it acceptable to boot a bloke on the floor in the head

 

Well you need to know the full story? Was the guy armed? He had already been tasered and that wasn’t working  so he could have easily been shot if that was the case. 

9 minutes ago, Zico said:

Aye 

This isn't a retort to the whole Muslim community whatever angle 

But are we really a Christian country? 

I went to an RC school and got dragged to church as a kid

But I'm not I don't know anyone under the age of 75 who is

I honestly don't know what the crack in modern day France, Spain and Italy etc is, but I don't see the UK as having any thing in the way of a religious Identity anymore.

Celebrating Saints days is as close as we get and that's got fuck all to do with religion other than the word "Saint"

Imo

You get my point though.

Why is one issue, all their issue?

Well we know why.

They like to close ranks and protect their own 🫴

1 minute ago, royal white said:

Well you need to know the full story? Was the guy armed? He had already been tasered and that wasn’t working  so he could have easily been shot if that was the case. 

In what way was it not working? 

He was spazzed out on the floor

2 minutes ago, Zico said:

In what way was it not working? 

He was spazzed out on the floor

Spazzed out 😂 this is the problem with an edited video, his head is moving and he starts to get up seconds later 

 Until now, id have backed our military 100% to play the game by the rules

Fwiw, my copper mate reckons the airport copper is toast and that he should be toast

For reference, my mate is 54 and not some wet behind the ears uni recruit

Just now, Casino said:

 Until now, id have backed our military 100% to play the game by the rules

Fwiw, my copper mate reckons the airport copper is toast and that he should be toast

For reference, my mate is 54 and not some wet behind the ears uni recruit

I bet your copper mate will agree that many cops nowadays are there to tick a box and nowhere near competent enough to do the job. 

If a bolton fan returning from germany got tugged and his passport confiscated, would everybody want to hear the full story before saying plod were wrong

Would they fuck

2 minutes ago, royal white said:

I bet your copper mate will agree that many cops nowadays are there to tick a box and nowhere near competent enough to do the job. 

He would

Hes had enough

Equally, he says yon mon wants kicking out of the job

14 minutes ago, Casino said:

If a bolton fan returning from germany got tugged and his passport confiscated, would everybody want to hear the full story before saying plod were wrong

Would they fuck

Would the police hold a meeting with the Bolton football fans? 
 

Would they fuck

Why would the police tug him when he returns? Surely if he committed a crime in Germany it’s for the Germans to sort. 
 

 

Edited July 26, 20242 yr by royal white

Just now, Casino said:

He would

Hes had enough

Equally, he says yon mon wants kicking out of the job

Even though he doesn’t know the full story? How odd. 

So what does he think should happen to those that aren’t competent and there to tick a box? 

1 minute ago, gonzo said:

You get my point though.

Why is one issue, all their issue?

Well we know why.

They like to close ranks and protect their own 🫴

Don't get be wrong 

I don't see it as a Muslim issue

But I'm not a Muslim 

Best not to give them a reason to think it might be

Just now, royal white said:

Even though he doesn’t know the full story? How odd. 

So what does he think should happen to those that aren’t competent and there to tick a box? 

He tolerates em

He says theres no 'full story' to be hold

Never acceptable, were his words

 

 

Ps i reckon he knows more than me and probably more than you

2 minutes ago, Casino said:

He tolerates em

He says theres no 'full story' to be hold

Never acceptable, were his words

 

 

Even if the suspect was thought to be armed? 
 

Anthony Grainger was shot dead by police on the same suspicions and the police kept their job. I bet his family wished he had been booted in the head instead 

Edited July 26, 20242 yr by royal white

35 minutes ago, royal white said:

Spazzed out 😂 this is the problem with an edited video, his head is moving and he starts to get up seconds later 

You're going to have to post the unedited video where he gets up and is a threat 

Lads been tasered 

He's posing zero threat in the video I saw

2 minutes ago, Zico said:

You're going to have to post the unedited video where he gets up and is a threat 

Lads been tasered 

He's posing zero threat in the video I saw

Is he armed?
You don’t have to be up to be a threat? 

Just now, royal white said:

Is he armed?
You don’t have to be up to be a threat? 

I don't think so 

Not from the videos I've seen 

Unless the unedited video tells a different story

I always thought our armed forces should be backed 100%

Im not so sure any more

That clown at the airport worries me about our cops, too

Does anybody know, are they GMP or just airport police

Btw, i wouldnt do his job for all the tea in china

Dont think he should, either

2 minutes ago, Zico said:

I don't think so 

Not from the videos I've seen 

Unless the unedited video tells a different story

Or what he had been told even? 
 

Theres only a few people that know the rest of us are guessing off edited videos 

3 minutes ago, Casino said:

I always thought our armed forces should be backed 100%

Im not so sure any more

That clown at the airport worries me about our cops, too

Does anybody know, are they GMP or just airport police

In more worried about the other police that I posted earlier. 

11 minutes ago, Casino said:

I always thought our armed forces should be backed 100%

Im not so sure any more

That clown at the airport worries me about our cops, too

Does anybody know, are they GMP or just airport police

GMP, think armed police can use more force as they're carrying a weapon, not sure if a kicking and stamping on the head is reasonable force though.

Guy tries to get back up again having been kicked and stomped on, female police officer knees him in his back to keep him down after they forcibly had to put down the guy wearing black. 

IMO

Police are now in an untenable position where they can't do right for wrong, mix that into every situation being potentially life threatening. 

 

GMP have stated there was a fracas where police have been "punched to the floor" and one with a broken nose, be awfully ironic if that was through ever a boot to the head, or a stomp, we don't know yet, but takes some effort to break a nose, 

In that, where they have put 3 police to the floor and broken a nose, on armed police, do we know that they haven't tried to taken the firearms, which then presents itself as a possible terrorist situation. 

Now in that situation (someone trying to take your firearm in an airport), it becomes life or death. As much as I don't want to admit it, if someone had just attacked me, tried to steal a firearm, i'm making sure he's not getting back up again easily. 

As stated previously, hauled over hot coals due to the actions of a terrorist at a music concert as they "went for a break", and we have leeds last weekend with officers being put at risk with a volatile crowd. Even Wigan last week where a guy has stabbed another multiple times in front of Police, security and about 20+ people. 

Until we know the facts, it can be seen from both sides, however some won't even think about it the way I have done above. 

 

 

4 minutes ago, Blondi said:

 not sure if a kicking and stamping on the head is reasonable force though.

I can’t believe it’s even a debate.

And I’ve a lot of sympathy with the police. But he’s overstepped here. The lad had a cyst on his brain as a result, could have been worse.

 The only saving grace is if the lad was armed. I very much doubt it though & think the police would have said if so.