Meanwhile In England

[Zico]

28 minutes ago, gonzo said:

Why do the Muslim socials have to get all over it and whip it in to race issue, us against then and all that. Amir Khan, MPs and various other prominent Muslims sticking their beaks in and flaring it all up.

They aren't doing it because the police we over the top on just some lads they are doing it because the lads are Muslim.

Aye, agree with that too 

Looking for issues where there might not be any 

Part of the issue with racism and all that is that it's very subjective 

I see the police being cunts 

They see the police being over zealous because they are brown 

Need some footage of the cops battering some tasered white lads in the head to even things up

[Not in Crawley]

3 hours ago, bwfcfan5 said:

Don’t think it matters what happened before. He’s lying prone in submission. You cannot kick the bloke in the head there - whatever happened before has to be dealt with by the law not by a copper stamping on his head. 

At last a sensible post. Some folk are acting as though whatever happened beforehand then the police can behave in an arbitrary way. Oddly from someone who once wore a uniform and knows more than anyone what responsibility that brings.

Then folk muddying the waters about sayings it's a race issue and this is the problem with Muslims.

Until the facts come out, we don't know but no one who is already on the floor and in a submissive state should be booted in the head by those who we, the people, grant the privilege of upholding the law. End of. I think Casinos copper friend said in no circumstance is it acceptable.  Everything else is over emotive twaddle.

[Spider]

25 minutes ago, Not in Crawley said:

At last a sensible post. Some folk are acting as though whatever happened beforehand then the police can behave in an arbitrary way. Oddly from someone who once wore a uniform and knows more than anyone what responsibility that brings.

Then folk muddying the waters about sayings it's a race issue and this is the problem with Muslims.

Until the facts come out, we don't know but no one who is already on the floor and in a submissive state should be booted in the head by those who we, the people, grant the privilege of upholding the law. End of. I think Casinos copper friend said in no circumstance is it acceptable.  Everything else is over emotive twaddle.

Nope

The headshot is almost certainly unjustified. Maybe if the lad had pulled a weapon on him then fair enough, but he was fairly defenceless at that point.

But it’s vital the full incident is considered and if - as seems likely - the copper cannot justify it he should be dealt with.

My issue from the very outset is the immediate leap by so many Muslims (and a fair number of non-Muslims) to the conclusion that it was racist and he was basically kicking every Muslim in the head in a metaphorical sense.

That, is completely fucking ridiculous and needs calling out. Unfortunately everyone is terrified of having a dig at Islam because they don’t want to be singled out as a racist, or a gammon.

They do it a lot, and they can fuck off.

had it been a white lad who goes to his local CofE church every Sunday, you wouldn’t have had a load of pensioners waving bibles outside Rochdale police station.

again, they can fuck off pulling that trick.

[Guest]

1 minute ago, Spider said:

Nope

The headshot is almost certainly unjustified. Maybe if the lad had pulled a weapon on him then fair enough, but he was fairly defenceless at that point.

But it’s vital the full incident is considered and if - as seems likely - the copper cannot justify it he should be dealt with.

My issue from the very outset is the immediate leap by so many Muslims (and a fair number of non-Muslims) to the conclusion that it was racist and he was basically kicking every Muslim in the head in a metaphorical sense.

That, is completely fucking ridiculous and needs calling out. Unfortunately everyone is terrified of having a dig at Islam because they don’t want to be singled out as a racist, or a gammon.

They do it a lot, and they can fuck off.

had it been a white lad who goes to his local CofE church every Sunday, you wouldn’t have had a load of pensioners waving bibles outside Rochdale police station.

again, they can fuck off pulling that trick.

You might get Tommy robinsons lot out on a march in fairness….especially if the victim had an England flag in their Twitter bio.

I agree that the jumping to conclusions isn’t good but they aren’t the only ones who could react like this. 

[Spider]

1 minute ago, bwfcfan5 said:

You might get Tommy robinsons lot out on a march in fairness….especially if the victim had an England flag in their Twitter bio.

I agree that the jumping to conclusions isn’t good but they aren’t the only ones who could react like this. 

He’s a cunt as well.

 

[Not in Crawley]

2 minutes ago, Spider said:

Nope

The headshot is almost certainly unjustified. Maybe if the lad had pulled a weapon on him then fair enough, but he was fairly defenceless at that point.

But it’s vital the full incident is considered and if - as seems likely - the copper cannot justify it he should be dealt with.

My issue from the very outset is the immediate leap by so many Muslims (and a fair number of non-Muslims) to the conclusion that it was racist and he was basically kicking every Muslim in the head in a metaphorical sense.

That, is completely fucking ridiculous and needs calling out. Unfortunately everyone is terrified of having a dig at Islam because they don’t want to be singled out as a racist, or a gammon.

They do it a lot, and they can fuck off.

had it been a white lad who goes to his local CofE church every Sunday, you wouldn’t have had a load of pensioners waving bibles outside Rochdale police station.

again, they can fuck off pulling that trick.

You've gone off at one about Muslims making this into a race issue. I said above that it's not got anything to do with it at this point. 

You are obviously angry about the weaponising of this issue along race lines. You can't 'call this out', anymore than it's justified that other groups are saying it's a race issue until the full facts are know. 

 

[Spider]

Just now, Not in Crawley said:

You've gone off at one about Muslims making this into a race issue. I said above that it's not got anything to do with it at this point. 

You are obviously angry about the weaponising of this issue along race lines. You can't 'call this out', anymore than it's justified that other groups are saying it's a race issue until the full facts are know. 

 

I’ll bet you a pair of new wincklepickers that this won’t be proven as a racist attack.

[Not in Crawley]

Just now, Spider said:

I’ll bet you a pair of new wincklepickers that this won’t be proven as a racist attack.

Maybe, maybe not - but you don't know anything and nor do I so at the moment maybe it's best folk keep options to themselves on both sides on this issue.

But what is clear is that whatever the situation you can't boot a member of the public in the face, whatever they have done previously if they at that time are in a submissive state (if they are proven to have a Glock in their underpants then we should obviously revist.)

The thin blue line exists because we allow them to uphold the law of the land as we allow our elective representatives the power to legislate on our behalf what those laws should be, discretionary powers do not include assault.

 

[Casino]

6 minutes ago, Spider said:

I’ll bet you a pair of new wincklepickers that this won’t be proven as a racist attack.

That wont mean it wasnt tacist though

Be very difficult to prove, surely?

Anyway, im happy to go with 'its not' and leave it at you cant boot somebody face down in the head

I would predict this

If he gets sent down, therell be white folk out on the streets

[Spider]

Just now, Not in Crawley said:

Maybe, maybe not - but you don't know anything and nor do I so at the moment maybe it's best folk keep options to themselves on both sides on this issue.

But what is clear is that whatever the situation you can't boot a member of the public in the face, whatever they have done previously if they at that time are in a submissive state (if they are proven to have a Glock in their underpants then we should obviously revist.)

The thin blue line exists because we allow them to uphold the law of the land as we allow our elective representatives the power to legislate on our behalf what those laws should be, discretionary powers do not include assault.

 

Absolutely.

If I’m honest, I’m not all that arsed about what the copper did. I trust the authorities to sort it out.

I just get ticked off with the Muslim lads getting bent out of shape and acting like they’re all victims.

Worse than scousers.

[gonzo]

24 minutes ago, Not in Crawley said:

You've gone off at one about Muslims making this into a race issue. I said above that it's not got anything to do with it at this point. 

 

That's horsecrap.

It's not Spider that made it a Muslim issue, it's every Tom Dick and Mohammed booting off all over twitter and police stations that it is.

[Cheese]

16 minutes ago, gonzo said:

That's horsecrap.

It's not Spider that made it a Muslim issue, it's every Tom Dick and Mohammed booting off all over twitter and police stations that it is.

Oh no! Not booting off on twitter! 😱

https://news.sky.com/story/hundreds-of-protesters-gather-outside-rochdale-police-station-after-video-shows-officer-stamping-on-mans-head-13184584

The force added the demonstration on Wednesday night ended "without incident".

[gonzo]

1 minute ago, Cheese said:

Oh no! Not booting off on twitter! 😱

https://news.sky.com/story/hundreds-of-protesters-gather-outside-rochdale-police-station-after-video-shows-officer-stamping-on-mans-head-13184584

The force added the demonstration on Wednesday night ended "without incident".

Prominent Muslims calling for protest and action on the Internet. You know, the biggest spreader of information and opinion the human civilisation has ever seen.

They were protesting at Rochdale police station because it was Muslims involved. Thats pretty clear.

Nobody made this a Muslim issue other than them and their secular victim and siege mentality.

 

 

[wakey]

40 minutes ago, Not in Crawley said:

But what is clear is that whatever the situation you can't boot a member of the public in the face, whatever they have done previously if they at that time are in a submissive state (if they are proven to have a Glock in their underpants then we should obviously revist.)

he was wearing voice activated suicide undies

[Cheese]

1 minute ago, gonzo said:

Prominent Muslims calling for protest and action on the Internet. You know, the biggest spreader of information and opinion the human civilisation has ever seen.

They were protesting at Rochdale police station because it was Muslims involved. Thats pretty clear.

Nobody made this a Muslim issue other than them and their secular victim and siege mentality.

And? So far, they've done fuck all apart from gather outside a police station for a couple of hours.

[Traf]

It has been suggested there'd been an issue involving these lads on the flight and GMP were waiting for them.

Something has clearly happened (a WPC has a broken nose FFS) before what we've actually seen, but it's not in the lads' interest to have broadcast that bit, of course.

I don't get why the coppers didn't take the phones away from the start.

[royal white]

1 hour ago, Not in Crawley said:

At last a sensible post. Some folk are acting as though whatever happened beforehand then the police can behave in an arbitrary way. Oddly from someone who once wore a uniform and knows more than anyone what responsibility that brings.

Then folk muddying the waters about sayings it's a race issue and this is the problem with Muslims.

Until the facts come out, we don't know but no one who is already on the floor and in a submissive state should be booted in the head by those who we, the people, grant the privilege of upholding the law. End of. I think Casinos copper friend said in no circumstance is it acceptable.  Everything else is over emotive twaddle.

So if he’s (the copper) been threatened and he thinks that the suspect has a gun or possibly some sort of device, then a kick to the head is not acceptable? 

[gonzo]

10 minutes ago, Cheese said:

And? So far, they've done fuck all apart from gather outside a police station for a couple of hours.

I'm just commenting on a football forum that I think it's wrong they've made this in to a race issue and adopted their usual call to arms approach.

It may suggest why their particular demographic/minority is view differently to others.

[Zico]

11 hours ago, Spider said:

Can anyone tell me why the Muslim community are involved, and in many cases saying it was racially and religiously motivated?

And is that ok?

That bloke from Bolton who promised protests like we've never seen needs to keep his nose out 

Also worth noting folk who would normally be critical of heavy handed policing, two tier policing etc are now complimentary and thought it was dealt with correctly, and that there's probably a good reason why he was booted in the head etc

[Cheese]

13 minutes ago, gonzo said:

I'm just commenting on a football forum that I think it's wrong they've made this in to a race issue and adopted their usual call to arms approach.

It may suggest why their particular demographic/minority is view differently to others.

Well if there was a "call to arms" it hasn't been very effective, yet you and spider seem to have wet yourselves. Just ignore the daft cunts, rather than posting lists of insults and saying all Muslims are smelly bastards who shit everywhere - strengthening the argument that they are victims of racial discrimination.

Edited July 27, 2024 by Cheese

[royal white]

8 minutes ago, Zico said:

That bloke from Bolton who promised protests like we've never seen needs to keep his nose out 

Also worth noting folk who would normally be critical of heavy handed policing, two tier policing etc are now complimentary and thought it was dealt with correctly, and that there's probably a good reason why he was booted in the head etc

Like the majority have said the full videos and reasoning need to be made available, until then everyone is guessing. If he has made threats to kill, blow the place up then a boot to the head is justified in my opinion. 

[gonzo]

12 minutes ago, Cheese said:

Well if there was a "call to arms" it hasn't been very effective, yet you and spider seem to have wet yourselves. Just ignore the daft cunts, rather than posting lists of insults and saying all Muslims are smelly bastards who shit everywhere - strengthening the argument that they are victims of racial discrimination.

Again you seem to think I'm being hysterical. I'm literally just having a chat on a fourm. Just like you are. 

And some are smelly bastards that shit everywhere. Some aren't 🫡

[Cheese]

On 26/07/2024 at 06:39, gonzo said:

You want to see what they say about us on Pakiways.

 

On 25/07/2024 at 21:46, gonzo said:

Forced marriages

Under age sex

Female Gential Mutilation 

Death to all infidels 

Splashing shitty poo water

Spitting big greenies on gym floors

Eating halal only food

Burkhas 

 

7 minutes ago, gonzo said:

Again you seem to think I'm being hysterical. I'm literally just having a chat on a fourm. Just like you are. 

And some are smelly bastards that shit everywhere. Some aren't 🫡

Yes you're right, I must apologise, you have made some very reasonable and considered arguments during this pleasant discussion. Racial discrimination doesn't exist, and it is completely irrational for any Muslim to think it does.

[Zico]

20 minutes ago, royal white said:

Like the majority have said the full videos and reasoning need to be made available, until then everyone is guessing. If he has made threats to kill, blow the place up then a boot to the head is justified in my opinion. 

Yep, hopefully the full sequence of events will come to light 

But there's nothing that will justify the kick to the head 

They're armed police, they've just tasered him, next step is hand cuffs, not head kicks, it serves zero purpose 

[gonzo]

1 hour ago, Cheese said:

 

 

Yes you're right, I must apologise, you have made some very reasonable and considered arguments during this pleasant discussion. Racial discrimination doesn't exist, and it is completely irrational for any Muslim to think it does.

That middle one was when you asked to provide an instance where the quran dictates their behaviour or similar. That list demonstrates that there's a whole host of their practices that have no place in our society or culture and they are led by their faith.

Do any on that list not happen?

 

Pakiways was clearly a joke.

Always defended you on here mate. But fuck that.

They were all right it seems.

 

Edited July 27, 2024 by gonzo