6 coppers to take him down or 1 member of the public with his bike? 
 

 

 

What’s the deal with these vape shops that are springing up and always seem to have a bloke or two stood in the doorway looking shifty as fuck? And yes, all the ones I’ve seen are blokes with foreign appearance (I’d guess Albanian but North African/Middle Eastern possible) and no customers.

Theres 3 opened in Horwich virtually next door to each other very recently and they stand out like a sore thumb.

Shitty neon displays in the window and tatty signage that looks fucking dreadful

8 minutes ago, London Wanderer said:

Tbf claiming people are ‘living in bubbles’ or have their ‘head in the sand’ because they don’t share your concerns about immigration isn’t too different from calling someone a racist thicko 😄

It's reactionary to be calling just that.

I get it as I once up on a time couldn't see it myself.

 

11 minutes ago, London Wanderer said:

Tbf claiming people are ‘living in bubbles’ or have their ‘head in the sand’ because they don’t share your concerns about immigration isn’t too different from calling someone a racist thicko 😄

Thicko.😉

How are Labour doing on immigration overall? 

We all know it's an issue, they know it's an issue, and they know it will lose them votes if they don't sort it 

Have we seen any improvement in numbers being processed and sent back in the last 12 months?

If not, why not

And what needs to happen

If so great 

 

Just now, Cheese said:

Of course. You're the only voice of reality, which coincidentally chimes with the voices of all the far right racists. You know best, because you clean windows for people in a shithole. Nobody else lives in or speaks to people in deprived areas. Just you.

Fuck me that's poor.

Losing your touch at this old boy.

Pathetic.

7 minutes ago, gonzo said:

Fuck me that's poor.

Losing your touch at this old boy.

Pathetic.

What have I got wrong? You clearly think you're in a better position to judge the national situation than I am. Meanwhile, I live in a shithole where the vast majority of scroungers are British, and the vast majority of immigrants are working. The difference between us is - I don't claim to have superior knowledge to someone who doesn't live where I do, and tell anyone who disagrees that they're deluded and living in a bubble.

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9 minutes ago, Zico said:

How are Labour doing on immigration overall? 

We all know it's an issue, they know it's an issue, and they know it will lose them votes if they don't sort it 

Have we seen any improvement in numbers being processed and sent back in the last 12 months?

If not, why not

And what needs to happen

If so great 

 

It doesn't matter how they're doing. It's all fake news and they're prioritising immigrants over British folk. They're even giving them free cars apparently. Because that makes perfect sense.

1 minute ago, Cheese said:

What have I got wrong? You clearly think you're in a better position to judge the national situation than I am. Meanwhile, I live in a shithole where the vast majority of scroungers are British, and the vast majority of immigrants are working. The difference between us is - I don't claim to have superior knowledge to someone who doesn't live where I do, and tell anyone who disagrees that they're deluded and living in a bubble.

It’s not national.

Its regional.

towns like Bradford, Bolton, Luton, Rochdale, preston are now predominantly full of areas that are Muslim.

shrewsbury isn’t. Harlow isn’t. Windsor isn’t.

50,000 people have arrived on boats this year and the majority are Muslim lads.

Where do you think they all are? 

Just now, Cheese said:

It doesn't matter how they're doing. It's all fake news and they're prioritising immigrants over British folk. They're even giving them free cars apparently. Because that makes perfect sense.

this is why Labour need to really get it right and sooner rather than later because that mindset will see Reform voted in

been here before with Brexit

1 minute ago, Spider said:

It’s not national.

Its regional.

towns like Bradford, Bolton, Luton, Rochdale, preston are now predominantly full of areas that are Muslim.

shrewsbury isn’t. Harlow isn’t. Windsor isn’t.

50,000 people have arrived on boats this year and the majority are Muslim lads.

Where do you think they all are? 

They're in the shitholes. Can you imagine the outrage if they were housed in the most expensive areas of the country?

2 minutes ago, Zico said:

this is why Labour need to really get it right and sooner rather than later because that mindset will see Reform voted in

been here before with Brexit

Prime Minister Farage is already a certainty. It doesn't matter what they do. I can't wait to be honest. It's going to be hilarious.

This Immigration bollocks is Brexit all over again.

I don't look forward to the incoming but I reserve to say I told you so if I am still around.

2 minutes ago, Cheese said:

They're in the shitholes. Can you imagine the outrage if they were housed in the most expensive areas of the country?

They weren’t always shitholes, dear boy.

And eventually, even the “shitholes” Will fill up.

You’ll know, where are those 50,000 (mainly) lads right now?

Just now, Spider said:

They weren’t always shitholes, dear boy.

And eventually, even the “shitholes” Will fill up.

You’ll know, where are those 50,000 (mainly) lads right now?

When weren't they shitholes, dear boy?

2 minutes ago, Spider said:

They weren’t always shitholes, dear boy.

And eventually, even the “shitholes” Will fill up.

You’ll know, where are those 50,000 (mainly) lads right now?

To be fair, 10x that have come here legally. Why is everyone ignoring that?

13 minutes ago, Cheese said:

What have I got wrong? You clearly think you're in a better position to judge the national situation than I am. Meanwhile, I live in a shithole where the vast majority of scroungers are British, and the vast majority of immigrants are working. The difference between us is - I don't claim to have superior knowledge to someone who doesn't live where I do, and tell anyone who disagrees that they're deluded and living in a bubble.

Superior knowledge?

I expressed an opinion and you asked me to explain them and I did.

You're the one who repeatedly says anyone who has these experiences is racist and a thicko etc.

That to me says you're deluded and refuse to see what anyone else can see.

It suggests you have no idea what's going on in certain areas. You've displayed this pretty consistently.

That's living in a bubble.

You're just not very good at this any more.

1 minute ago, Winchester White said:

To be fair, 10x that have come here legally. Why is everyone ignoring that?

Nobody is.

The hell holes up Deane and Central Drive will be full of 'legal' folk. But christ they aren't improving the country or their particular areas.

2 minutes ago, gonzo said:

Nobody is.

The hell holes up Deane and Central Drive will be full of 'legal' folk. But christ they aren't improving the country or their particular areas.

Yes but my point is they are legal, allowed to be here. Everyone is completely missing the point that those one the boats are a tiny proportion 

1 minute ago, gonzo said:

Superior knowledge?

I expressed an opinion and you asked me to explain them and I did.

You're the one who repeatedly says anyone who has these experiences is racist and a thicko etc.

That to me says you're deluded and refuse to see what anyone else can see.

It suggests you have no idea what's going on in certain areas. You've displayed this pretty consistently.

That's living in a bubble.

You're just not very good at this any more.

So it's your "opinion". We got there in the end.

By that same logic, you're deluded because you refuse to see what I see, and because you have no idea what's going on in areas outside your bubble? I think you'd agree, reality doesn't work like that.

Anyway, don't worry - Nigel will sort it all out for you in a few years.

I’ll try again.

 

Where are the 50,000?

Ill even ignore the 100k+ the fucking Tories let in

1 minute ago, Spider said:

I’ll try again.

 

Where are the 50,000?

Ill even ignore the 100k+ the fucking Tories let in

Spread around the country in shithole hotels. Where do you think they should be?

1 minute ago, Cheese said:

Spread around the country in shithole hotels. Where do you think they should be?

Thanks.

Do you think this is a positive thing for the United Kingdom?

 

1 minute ago, Spider said:

Thanks.

Do you think this is a positive thing for the United Kingdom?

I have no opinion either way. Where do you think they should be?

10 minutes ago, Cheese said:

So it's your "opinion". We got there in the end.

By that same logic, you're deluded because you refuse to see what I see, and because you have no idea what's going on in areas outside your bubble? I think you'd agree, reality doesn't work like that.

Anyway, don't worry - Nigel will sort it all out for you in a few years.

My opinion is absolute fact.

I see what landlords are offered. I've seen the influx. I've seen what it's doing to the town.

I see the rows of taxis outside the HMOs and Metropole every single morning.

I've seen the expansion of the hell hole that is central drive and the increase of Easter Europeans and Africans.

It's clear to see. It's not opinion, it's fact.

You seem to think it's not a problem.

Presumably because your area doesn't have the same problems. 

Can't be any more clear.

Just now, gonzo said:

My opinion is absolute fact.

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